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17 Sep 2010, 1:50 pm

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Based on behavior I think that two of the giants of post war jazz were aspies: Charlie Parker, and Thelonius Monk.

Especially Monk.

He was very spacey and eccentric.
He met a fellow bebop pianist and said "Those cats were right, you DO look like me".

Five years later his path crossed with same pianist again. The first thing out of Monk's mouth was "but you're uglier than I am."

He completed a sentence that he had started five years earlier.

Definetly aspie in behavior.
Wasn't this post already somewhere else in this thread? May have been a few years old though.

I don't know too much of him, while I'm a big fan of him, his music style is definitely different for jazz. Compared to other pianists, and bandleaders of his time, his style was really dissonant, uninterested in what jazz was in the period. You'd have to hear his music compared to others, it's hard to explain. I don't know if it's AS-ish, but it's definitely different. Uninterested in conventional approaches. More interested in banging on the piano, finding a lot of dissonances, clashing tones, trying to meld beautiful melody with going crazy, while I haven't written much myself, I could imagine myself writing music in a style similar to his if I was a Jazz pianist (bandleader) in his era.

Haven't seen his documentary, but I could believe it if he was AS. Unfortunately, we'll never know.


Yes on "mysterioso" he really bangs on the keyboard, and yet its a very pretty and delicate tune. delicate and dissonant at the same time.

One musician who apparently does NOT have AS is Beck.
Folks on another aspis website I go to are all angry at Beck because he kidded around with an interviewer saying "thats because I have aspergers..not really". Im surprised that he even knows about aspergers but some folks dont think its anything to joke about i guess.



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18 Sep 2010, 2:17 am

I posted Bob Dylan in another thread floating around this site. I wouldn't be surprised after reading his autobiography and watching his interviews.



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18 Sep 2010, 7:11 am

I heard about Kurt Cobain...



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18 Sep 2010, 7:41 am

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I heard about Kurt Cobain...


He had ADD and bipolar, so he wasn't neurotypical.


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18 Sep 2010, 3:36 pm

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I don't think Trent Reznor or Marilyn Manson do. If you read Marilyn Manson's autobiography you can get a better idea of the way he thinks. Definitely not "normal" but not exactly AS.


I thought Marilyn Manson had far too much of an understanding of theory of mind to be AS.

No, Marilyn Manson definitely does not have an ASD. If anything he has borderline personality disorder. The guy is nuts, I wouldn't want him living next door to me.


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18 Sep 2010, 4:11 pm

Emilie Autumn
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19 Sep 2010, 4:25 pm

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Sid Barret, Kurt Kobain, Eminem, and I think I remember reading an account of someone who knew David Matthews personally and that he even has an offical diagosis of AS.


Eminem? Why do you say that?



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19 Sep 2010, 4:29 pm

My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


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19 Sep 2010, 5:11 pm

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My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


How can a murderer be your hero?



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19 Sep 2010, 6:04 pm

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My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


How can a murderer be your hero?


Because it's so hard to believe that a depressed junkie would kill himself. :roll:


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19 Sep 2010, 6:21 pm

Delirium wrote:
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My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


How can a murderer be your hero?


Because it's so hard to believe that a depressed junkie would kill himself. :roll:


1. THERE WERE NO FINGERPRINTS!
2. COURTNEY'S OWN FATHER THINKS SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE OR INVOLVED IN HIS MURDER!
3. HE WAS SO HIGH THERE IS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE SHOT HIMSELF IN THAT POSITION!

YOU GO SUPPORT A SADISTIC MURDERER ELSEWHERE YOU MONSTER!



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19 Sep 2010, 6:34 pm

Xenu wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Xenu wrote:
bridgete2010 wrote:
My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


How can a murderer be your hero?


Because it's so hard to believe that a depressed junkie would kill himself. :roll:


1. THERE WERE NO FINGERPRINTS!
2. COURTNEY'S OWN FATHER THINKS SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE OR INVOLVED IN HIS MURDER!
3. HE WAS SO HIGH THERE IS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE SHOT HIMSELF IN THAT POSITION!

YOU GO SUPPORT A SADISTIC MURDERER ELSEWHERE YOU MONSTER!


1. THE DOCTOR WHO EXAMINED HIS BODY SAID THAT IT WAS A SUICIDE, AND SO DID THE POLICE OFFICER WHO WORKED ON THE CASE.
2. HE WAS ADDICTED TO HEROIN. GENERALLY SPEAKING, ADDICTS TEND TO BUILD UP TOLERANCE TO WHTEVER THEY'RE ADDICTED TO.
3. KURT COBAIN DIED WHEN YOU WERE A YEAR OLD. HIS DEATH WAS ALSO SIXTEEN YEARS AGO. WHY ARE YOU SO EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN HIS DEATH?
4. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T BUY INTO CONSPIRACY THEORIES DOESN'T MEAN I'M A HORRIBLE PERSON WHO THINKS COURTNEY LOVE IS TOTALLY AWESOME.
5. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME.


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19 Sep 2010, 9:26 pm

Delirium wrote:
Xenu wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Xenu wrote:
bridgete2010 wrote:
My riot grrl hero- courtney love. she doesnt act very well behaved, but damn is she a great lyricist. and her gritty voice wins my vote.


How can a murderer be your hero?


Because it's so hard to believe that a depressed junkie would kill himself. :roll:


1. THERE WERE NO FINGERPRINTS!
2. COURTNEY'S OWN FATHER THINKS SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE OR INVOLVED IN HIS MURDER!
3. HE WAS SO HIGH THERE IS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE SHOT HIMSELF IN THAT POSITION!

YOU GO SUPPORT A SADISTIC MURDERER ELSEWHERE YOU MONSTER!


1. THE DOCTOR WHO EXAMINED HIS BODY SAID THAT IT WAS A SUICIDE, AND SO DID THE POLICE OFFICER WHO WORKED ON THE CASE.
2. HE WAS ADDICTED TO HEROIN. GENERALLY SPEAKING, ADDICTS TEND TO BUILD UP TOLERANCE TO WHTEVER THEY'RE ADDICTED TO.
3. KURT COBAIN DIED WHEN YOU WERE A YEAR OLD. HIS DEATH WAS ALSO SIXTEEN YEARS AGO. WHY ARE YOU SO EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN HIS DEATH?
4. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T BUY INTO CONSPIRACY THEORIES DOESN'T MEAN I'M A HORRIBLE PERSON WHO THINKS COURTNEY LOVE IS TOTALLY AWESOME.
5. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME.


1. George Reeves death was also said by the police to be a suicide, and that is one of the most obvious Hollywood murders. The police and doctors aren't always right, sometimes they don't pay enough attention to the details.
2. If you looked at how much heroin he was on at the time you would know that not even the craziest addict could have been able to move let alone shoot himself.
3. It doesn't matter my age Nirvana has had a major impact on my life.
4. It's not a conspiracy theory it's a fact.
5. You realize everybody on here hates you right?



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20 Sep 2010, 12:10 am

Caps lock IS cruise control for awesome, and... calm down.

First, Kurt Cobain attempted suicide once before and suffered from Bipolar Disorder, with really bad lows. It's not unreasonable to think he may have actually attempted it again, succeeding.

Also possible that Courtney Love may have been a murderer, she's clearly manipulative about his death, I've lost count of the many articles I've read where she's advertising yet another Kurt Cobain biography movie. Seriously, lost count.

Sigh, just another case where I'm in the gray and am indecisive. Based on the most accessible facts, Kurt Cobain likely did indeed kill himself. That said, there are some considerable arguments, theories, and evidence I've found while slightly researching the topic, from those in favor of the idea that Love was the murderer (personally, I don't think it's as crazy as other conspiracies can be). Such as, (in addition to whatevers been mentioned) his suicide letter; While most of it was depressed, only the ending truly made it sound like he was going to kill himself, and that part is in a different handwriting (the theory being, that part is written by Courtney, and it's not written as a suicide letter originally). Always could be a coincidence.

Whatever the case, Courtney Love is autistic; She was diagnosed with it as a child. If my opinion matters: it's a good thing she doesn't bring it up much, I would hate to see her represent the autistic society. She would probably be the worst choice in picking someone to represent autism.



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20 Sep 2010, 4:41 am

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1. George Reeves death was also said by the police to be a suicide, and that is one of the most obvious Hollywood murders. The police and doctors aren't always right, sometimes they don't pay enough attention to the details.
2. If you looked at how much heroin he was on at the time you would know that not even the craziest addict could have been able to move let alone shoot himself.
3. It doesn't matter my age Nirvana has had a major impact on my life.
4. It's not a conspiracy theory it's a fact.
5. You realize everybody on here hates you right?


I don't give a s**t if everyone hates me. Can we please not turn this into a Kurt Cobain was murdered/Kurt Cobain killed himself thread? If you want to buy into conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.

And back on topic, David Byrne from the Talking Heads mentioned in an interview that he thought he might have Asperger's IIRC.


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02 Oct 2010, 3:37 pm

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I'm not so sure but Rob Swire frontman for the drum n bass band "Pendulum" seems AS-ish. I watched a live DVD and he had no direct interaction with the audience. Also he seemed entirely focused on his instruments rather than the audience. I watched an interview with him and another band member and he didn't talk much and gave off a sort of awkward body language. AS may be a bit far but he's anti-social at least.

And Jack White may be. The Lyrics to the song "Do" are AS-ish. I don't know about Meg White though.


I was just about to create a thread on Rob, but decided to search him here first.

He is definitely the greatest producer I have ever heard, and a personal hero of mine.

Here is the interview that really made me wonder, maybe it's the one you saw as well.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YIfwOc25kA[/youtube]


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