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17 Jun 2014, 7:34 pm

I'm sure that about 2,000 of those views are from me. HAH!



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17 Jun 2014, 7:39 pm

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Here's an amusing story about Mozart and one of his friends, the horn player Joseph Leutgeb. : )

"Mozart had a curious joking relationship with Leutgeb, seen for instance in the mocking comments he placed in Leutgeb's horn parts. K. 417 bears the mock dedication: "Wolfgang Amadé Mozart takes pity on Leutgeb, ass, ox, and simpleton, at Vienna, March 27, 1783". In one place he marks the orchestra part "Allegro" and the solo part "Adagio", perhaps mocking the tendency of horn notes to come in late, dragging the tempo. For another possible instance, see K. 412. The multicolored inks in K. 495 are often taken to be a kind of joke.

Letters from the end of Mozart's life suggest that Leutgeb didn't mind the teasing and that the two had a good friendship. A letter by Mozart of 6 June 1791 indicates that, while his wife Constanze was away, he stayed for several nights at Leutgeb's, "because I had discharged [the maid] Leonore and I would have been all alone at home, which would not have been pleasant." Later the same year, after the highly successful premiere of his opera The Magic Flute, Mozart repeatedly took friends and relatives to performances, and wrote in a letter (8?9 October) "Leutgeb begged me to take him a second time and I did so."

Leutgeb was most likely Mozart's favorite horn player, as a number of the composer's works were written for him. These include the Horn Concertos K. 417, K. 495 and K. 412/386b (514) and "probably" (New Grove) the Horn Quintet K. 407/386c."


You guys know so much! I love your stories.

I went to get a pedicure with a whole spa massage thing tonight and I was reading my "how to read music" book while I was getting it. Very nice, but man there are a lot of components to reading music. Does anybody know a method for simpletons like me to learn?

Imagine knowing Mozart!

I'm also getting really obsessed with the origins of music and how each kind started, where instrument ideas came from. I wonder if cavemen had some kind of rock knocking symphonies or something.



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17 Jun 2014, 7:46 pm

wozeree wrote:
You guys know so much! I love your stories.

I went to get a pedicure with a whole spa massage thing tonight and I was reading my "how to read music" book while I was getting it. Very nice, but man there are a lot of components to reading music. Does anybody know a method for simpletons like me to learn?

Imagine knowing Mozart!

I'm also getting really obsessed with the origins of music and how each kind started, where instrument ideas came from. I wonder if cavemen had some kind of rock knocking symphonies or something.


I'm very much the same way, I love to hear about the back-story behind the music. It makes me appreciate what I'm hearing that much more. I find that much of Beethoven's music had a very personal touch to it.

Here's one of mine with my favorite story behind it. Beethoven wrote his third symphony with the intention of dedicating it to his hero, Napoleon. He wrote the symphony and had nearly completed it, when Napoleon declared himself emperor. Beethoven was so disgusted by this action that he supposedly scratched Napoleon's name out on the score so furiously that he tore a hole in the page.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwRVR-TmKYw[/youtube]

Here's another one, that Beethoven originally wrote as the final movement of a string quartet. At the end of the quartet, the audience asked for an encore of two of the middle movements, rather than this one. Beethoven supposedly went into a rage, exclaiming "And why didn't they encore the Fugue? That alone should have been repeated! Cattle! Asses!" It is often considered one of his more inaccessible works.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEZXjW_s0Qs[/youtube]



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17 Jun 2014, 9:26 pm

First off, I had to look this one up because skibum keeps mentioning it:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWOIKCtjiw[/youtube]



Then I found this one - it sounds so fun to sing!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEC1C2b4w2c[/youtube]



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17 Jun 2014, 9:35 pm

Ok kiddies. Just a few that I am fond of. The last several features a singer that I am obsessed with, I think I have most everything she has done. Most of this is a curious mix of classical, operatic, and metal. But not totally off the wall. I will refrain from things like COF here as I know I'd get booted from the thread. I will find some mainstream classical for the next posting. I was just in a mood for this stuff tonight. 8)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V_eoR6r1Tw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpIEPdRXwYA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y_VhF7mW_Y[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6kvKZtiNDY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTm-BrB56Es[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPY8Kt8KdpE[/youtube]

Hopefully I don't get banned for this, hopefully you may at least like some of it. :lol:



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17 Jun 2014, 9:48 pm

KB8CWB wrote:
Ok kiddies. Just a few that I am fond of. The last several features a singer that I am obsessed with, I think I have most everything she has done. Most of this is a curious mix of classical, operatic, and metal. But not totally off the wall. I will refrain from things like COF here as I know I'd get booted from the thread. I will find some mainstream classical for the next posting. I was just in a mood for this stuff tonight. 8)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V_eoR6r1Tw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpIEPdRXwYA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y_VhF7mW_Y[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6kvKZtiNDY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTm-BrB56Es[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPY8Kt8KdpE[/youtube]

Hopefully I don't get banned for this, hopefully you may at least like some of it. :lol:


That is so not classical! I can see the roots though, very interesting. I think we should start another thread for this kind of music. I bet there are other people who would post some. I really liked most of it. (Forgot which one I didn't like already.)



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17 Jun 2014, 9:53 pm

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That is so not classical! I can see the roots though, very interesting. I think we should start another thread for this kind of music. I bet there are other people who would post some. I really liked most of it. (Forgot which one I didn't like already.)


LOL!! :bounce:

I said it was a mixture!! :P I just had to mix it up a bit in here but I will play nicely from now on. It does have classical and operatic roots however. Just wanted to drag the thread kicking and screaming into the 21st century.... :wink:



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17 Jun 2014, 10:01 pm

KB8CWB wrote:
wozeree wrote:
That is so not classical! I can see the roots though, very interesting. I think we should start another thread for this kind of music. I bet there are other people who would post some. I really liked most of it. (Forgot which one I didn't like already.)


LOL!! :bounce:

I said it was a mixture!! :P I just had to mix it up a bit in here but I will play nicely from now on. It does have classical and operatic roots however. Just wanted to drag the thread kicking and screaming into the 21st century.... :wink:


Hey, I love 21st Century music, I might not be able to live without it (my greatest fear of the Apocalypse is losing use of my iPod)! But that's not what this thread is about! :D



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17 Jun 2014, 10:10 pm

Ok, ok point well taken. So to atone for my past indiscretions I offer this to set myself on the right path. So here is a classical piece but a tad more modern. Hope you enjoy it. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8JVSYj-qV8[/youtube]



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17 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm

KB8CWB wrote:
Ok, ok point well taken. So to atone for my past indiscretions I offer this to set myself on the right path. So here is a classical piece but a tad more modern. Hope you enjoy it. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8JVSYj-qV8[/youtube]


I only listened to the beginning (of course, have to finish tomorrow). But that is SO YOU! Love it though. might get that cd if I continue to like it as much.

I find it really interesting how music and say things without words. Am looking into that!



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17 Jun 2014, 10:41 pm

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I only listened to the beginning (of course, have to finish tomorrow). But that is SO YOU! Love it though. might get that cd if I continue to like it as much.

I find it really interesting how music and say things without words. Am looking into that!


SO me eh? Not sure how to take that. She is one of the better composers of the 20th century of Russian origin. She does many unique things both within the composition and also with the instrumentation. I won't say I like all of her stuff, but much of it is good. She is one of the composers that combines music with mathematics.

Edit: Some info on the lady composer.

Sofia



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18 Jun 2014, 7:55 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW03Bmy791s[/youtube]



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18 Jun 2014, 4:51 pm

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Beethoven wrote his third symphony with the intention of dedicating it to his hero, Napoleon. He wrote the symphony and had nearly completed it, when Napoleon declared himself emperor. Beethoven was so disgusted by this action that he supposedly scratched Napoleon's name out on the score so furiously that he tore a hole in the page.


I heard about this one. Haha.. I wonder if Beethoven celebrated with champagne after Napoleon was exiled to the island of St. Helena.


Quote:
Bach - Sleepers Wake


Bach's cantatas are so beautiful. One of the best cures for a bad mood is a long, warm bath with some Bach playing in the background.

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Piatti, Cello Caprice n°3, Marco Mosca


What a lovely tone color Marco produces in this recording. The cello is singing!



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18 Jun 2014, 5:06 pm

Benjamin Franklin and Mozart....

"The glass armonica is a type of musical instrument that uses a series of glass bowls or goblets graduated in size to produce musical tones by means of friction.

Benjamin Franklin invented a radically new arrangement of the glasses in 1761 after seeing water-filled wine glasses played by Edmund Delaval at Cambridge in England in May of 1761. Franklin, who called his invention the "armonica" after the Greek word for harmony, worked with London glassblower Charles James to build one, and it had its world premiere in early 1762, played by Marianne Davies.

In Franklin's treadle-operated version, 37 bowls were mounted horizontally on an iron spindle. The whole spindle turned by means of a foot pedal. The sound was produced by touching the rims of the bowls with water moistened fingers. Rims were painted different colors according to the pitch of the note. A's were dark blue, B's purple, C's red, D's orange, E's yellow, F's green, G's blue, and accidentals white. With the Franklin design it was possible to play ten glasses simultaneously if desired, a technique that is very difficult if not impossible to execute using upright goblets. Franklin also advocated the use of a small amount of powdered chalk on the fingers, which under some acidic water conditions helped produce a clear tone."

Mozart eventually met Benjamin Franklin during his stay in Paris and was fascinated by the glass armonica.

Mozart?s Adagio und Rondo (K 617) was written for it, as was his Adagio für Harmonika (K 356) both performed in 1791.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYkGaVL62o[/youtube]



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18 Jun 2014, 5:21 pm

"Schubert's final chamber work, the String Quintet in C major was composed in 1828 and completed just two months before his death.

In selecting the key of C major for his only string quintet, Schubert may have been gesturing to two composers he greatly admired, Mozart and Beethoven, both of whom wrote string quintets in that key, Mozart's String Quintet No. 3 in C major, and Beethoven's String Quintet, Op. 29 in C major. According to Charles Rosen, the opening theme of Schubert's work emulates many characteristics of the Mozart quintet's opening theme, such as decorative turns, irregular phrase lengths, and rising staccato arpeggios."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHKH-Fy5No[/youtube]



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18 Jun 2014, 6:00 pm

Maurice Ravel completed his string quartet in early April 1903 at the age of 28. It was dedicated to his friend and teacher, Gabriel Fauré, whose music we heard a couple of pages ago. Fauré, Debussy, and Ravel all knew each other and there are quite a few interesting stories involving these three. But that's for another time. For now, I'm going to sit back and enjoy Ravel's String Quartet in F major.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOpPQ2rkfw[/youtube]



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