TullyFisher wrote:
Holy crap, I cannot believe that there are actually people here that like this stuff too! I have never seen this anywhere that I have been. I think I am in love.
DSBM has suicidal in its name but I love it even though I definitely have no desire to kill myself. It may sound odd but DSBM has some of the most beautiful music of any genre out there. Wedard is by far the best depressive black metal band.
I also love Burzum. I couldn't care less what the man believes or what he is saying. I can't understand him anyway! Some of my favorite black metal bands are national socialist, but only for the music. I just wouldn't mention this to most people.
Yeah, I’ve been pretty surprised by how many people here like underground-ish metal as well.
I think a big problem with the DSBM label is that some people seem to think it is a certain sound within the bm genre while others think it just means bm bands who have themes of depression and suicide regardless of their style. So you have an artist such as Burzum who helped pioneer the sound whose main focus isn’t on depression and suicide, then artists like Forgotten Tomb and Loss who I’ve also heard being labeled as dsbm.
I gained a little more respect for Varg now that he seems to have matured a bit over the years and dropped the modern National Socialist ideology in favour of ‘Odalism’ and the native Scandinavian democracy.
There’s a problem with the NSBM label as well as many bands who don’t promote National Socialism, some who aren’t even NS outside of their music and lyrics, are labeled as this. I think this is largely due to a few things. One being that even touching on nationalism and ancient cultural pride is scary and “taboo” in today’s society, thus these bands are “Nazis”. This is helped along by censorship/watchdog groups who do everything they can to slander. And lastly, it’s just an easy umbrella term that’s caught on.
Varg’s music itself has absolutely nothing to do with racism, NS etc etc.
I enjoy the music of many bands who often get the “NSBM” label, some who really do promote NS in their themes and others who are just commonly categorized as this – Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum, Der Sturmer, Capricornus, Thor’s Hammer, Fullmoon, Goatmoon, Satanic Warmaster, Spear of Longinus, Absurd, Ohtar, Dark Fury etc.
I don't have a problem mentioning it to people, though it can promote a negative response.