Does anyone hate electronic music like I do?

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Album of the year? goodness gracious!
This could have been written by a suckling xD
I don't care about how long it takes to shape good sounds on a computer, even though the here used sounds are rarely complex but very simple.
That's even worse than Katy Perry or the JONAS BROTHERS, since those Kuedo guys can't even sing or play an instrument (well, probably those 4 chords on the synthesizer xDDDD) xD
I'll pray to god that none of their works would ever be considered as album of the year, that's just such an impertinence!

WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB

I WILL PLAY THIS ON REPEAT UNTIL YOU LIKE IT:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCg893NR438[/youtube]

Yes I had exactly the same "problem" at your age

I started liking electronic music first around 20 or something. Before that it sounded monotone and irritating, yes!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEcj2xi9Ctc&feature=BFa&list=FLauFt__Q-Z_-Uf337tl0yPg&lf=mh_lolz[/youtube]

What always confused me was how dubstep's blown up so big that almost everyone's heard of it, it came from dnb which has been around since the mid 90's, and it seems like so few people outside of London know anything at all about dnb. Its not to say I dislike dubstep, dubstep and dnb seem like part-in-parcel genres though and I never fully got why so many people hated one and love other over a difference of.... 30 bpm?

I enjoy listening to both, though I mainly listen to dubstep. I think people who claim to love one but hate the other are just buried in an "us vs. them" mentality which is just one of many bugs in human nature. Honestly, you can prefer one for sure, but being a big fanboy about one while trashing the other is just... Well, like what most people do on the internet with everything, TBH

I'm not really talking about now so much as, perhaps, the time I started getting into dnb which was 1997ish, where you couldn't play it for most people without getting some truly bizarre/neurotic reactions, like it just *did* something to them, outside a few rave clubs it was the genre of music that simply didn't exist as if people almost willfully/deliberately shoved it under the carpet, but dubstep - made up of loads of the same sounds - its like people can't get enough of it . I really wonder what that invisible line in the sand was that made dubstep widely palatable while dnb of a similar character was widely unpalatable.

Strange. I must say, though, I get hilarious reactions when I play dubstep to my parents and other family members

I love dnb (though prefer jungle and its predecessor - UK hardcore). It's pretty universal, not just London, but it never really got into the mainstream except Goldie and Roni Size, and then breaks came and got used in lots of films like The Matrix and Fight Club, meanwhile dnb persists as a purely dance scene phenomenon. But definitely global. I like a lot of dubstep but it seems overinflated. I can barely listen to a whole dubstep mix, and when I do I hear a lot of the same tracks from Planet Mu people.

When dnb was briefly mainstream:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEBoVhx_hDk&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdP9Y_ERf4&feature=watch_response[/youtube]

The above, being actual good music, couldn't persist above ground for long and got replaced in the public consciousness by breaks (originally from London but New York popularised it):


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBL33NKvPA[/youtube]

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/chart ... s-of-2011/

Decent list of recent electronic (dance) music.

I can listen to dubstep all day *but* it can't be of the synthetic variety. Any of the more ambient-directed stuff like Phaeleh, Silkie, Falty DL, Roska, Vaccine, etc. - that I can do. Also, check out Kryptic Minds' 'Can't Sleep' LP - deep/dark dnb vibes to dubstep (they were dnb producers first and crossed over later)



Actually in the days or Ron Size's Reprazent you had so much other stuff going on. Clearly V had Roni, Krust, Suv (REALLY love Krust and Suv's stuff from the 1997-98 era), Die; you also had John B doing jazz step and dark rollers, this is also back when Dillinja's stuff was more deep and ambient rather than what it came to later.

I don't want to jump up and down on the OP's head too much more so I'll just post links to some of the stuff that I did grow up on the 1997/98 era that, again, just didn't catch outside of the underground. Yes, in the US we did seem to have a strong set of local dj's who got it, we had a guy named Dj 3D who really had the knack down for dark rolling techstep, some other relatively famous staties of the period were Dieselboy (who IMO went downhill), Phantom 45, AK1200, ODI, Pish Posh, and then you had Soulslinger doing his own NYC thing which was sick.

Anyway the links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeLtiGHqlg (Optical - The End Pt I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJf11ZReEtw (Matrix - Convoy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjnZu3H6Sc (John B - Secrets)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcoH9KzQPg4 (Codename John - Structure Of Red)


A few of the super-rinsed dancefloor anthems from that period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKoM_K2UwA (Bad Company - The Nine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1ivdS-Mu8 (RAM Trilogy - No Reality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC7l0LptPUE (Shanie - Miss My Face (Dillinja rmx))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXU21fNEMM (Ed Rush & Fierce - Locusts)

Lol, I think that might be why I feel a little jaded, even the jump-up back then was done the right way. Not to say the new stuff is crap, it came back STRONG back in 2008 with the real warped, drippy, night-time type stuff that Loxy was pushing and even before that with Spirit, Skitty, and a handful of other people starting....2005ish maybe? All the same though I'm not sure what it was - if it was just that particular time in history and people are now more open minded to dnb or what.


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I don't understand that at all. There's no swagger to that at all, no slip or trick to the beats.

The death I was more familiar with was, essentially, Pendulum. Bright, buzzy, wizzy Halloween noisemakers and Fisher Price keys - ie. Clownstep. That's one of the things Dieselboy went over to and, IMO, never really recovered from.

"Actually in the days or Roni Size's Reprazent you had so much other stuff going on."

Yeah but nobody knew about it who wasn't already listening - that was my point.

Dom & Roland did a clownstep track I really liked, but generally drum and bass did have a lot of dead ends. But so much variation too!

I dislike most, but there are exceptions.

i'm appreciative of two electronic music artists in particular- wendy carlos and isao tomita. carlos is very cerebral and tomita is very playful. listening to carlos's "timesteps" is like stepping into a computer-generated savanna, with wild alien robocreatures lurking all about- and tomita's rendition of "the planets" is just wild, it truly is sci-fi music or a science-fiction movie expressed in a musical form. i believe somebody made a video version of it, that is real eye candy. his CD "the bermuda triangle" [very hard to find] is also akin to a science fiction movie expressed as pure sound. tomita's version of "pavane for a dead princess" [on his "bolero" CD] is grand and somber and contemplative, with a very symphonic use of synthesizers.

That's not really my point though. It seemed like, as far as I could tell - at least around where I'm at, dubstep caught on but the intolerance for dnb with the broader audience never really changed. That's 1997/98, 2005, 2008, even now likely.

I know people who get physically ill at dnb, the rhythms and the frequencies. Dubstep is all pleasing frequencies.