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27 Jan 2009, 6:17 pm

Having more battery power today (brain and laptop) I've found some of the links...

Given that you do your own remixes..maybe in these you might find some of the elements you mean and can use.

Sabres of paradise- Wilmot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSGwpgbal4o
Bomb the bass- bug powder dust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHsp1Sn5-M
Kid Unknown –Nightmare (cheesy ,slightly dated techno but at the time...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XcpMCly1IY
Delta Lady.- Swamp fever (as above, and pre-dating Moby with the sample)
http:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFeQU2G6YpM
Renegade Soundwave- Thunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_-yTyKEyUE
Depth Charge remix of Sabres of Paradise-Tow Truck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahyUVX3DKgo



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28 Jan 2009, 12:33 am

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I think the only time I've really ever heard this on a 4/4 beat was a local rave back in 2000 that Stacy Pullen played a 2 hour set at. He spent the first hour playing this real flue-dream sounding stuff, real uneasy but barely any noticeable trace of anything electronic, more just accoustic and uneasy...did that till you could barely stand it, got darker and darker and still unrefreshingly no basslines or anything wildly electronic and by the time the electronic came in you weren't even ready for it, went like going along the ocean floor right off the edge into a trench. The sad part - you'll NEVER find recorded sets like that and you have to have crates and crates of vinyl to even know the names of most of these artists who make that kind of stuff.

As far as my 4/4 darklight fix though, what I could get my hands on, I used to be a real big fan of Chris Liberator and Dave the Drummer; very filthy/dark edge of UK acid techno, though I think I heard the best of them around 2000, after that I really can't say much. Mark EG's good as well, probably has some sets where he throws down stuff like I'm thinking of in 4/4 (Techno Transmissions comes close at moments as does his Live @ Mischief set, as you'd figure though any available sets on soulseek or anywhere are his hard trance, progressive trance, or happy hardcore - not the acid techno or acid tech-trance).

The original topic though - I'm not just thinking dark or minimal, and I think I really threw it off badly on my response to marshall's post with that litany of stuff that's dark, kinda there kinda not and in completely different ways. Its a melodic and structural style, like what I posted in the sendspace rar, or at least its an emotional approach - difficult to pin down.



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28 Jan 2009, 1:15 am

I get Mark EG's techno sets from Unitedsb.de and Livesets.com :)

I have so many mixtapes, it's all I ever listen to.



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28 Jan 2009, 1:19 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
The original topic though - I'm not just thinking dark or minimal, and I think I really threw it off badly on my response to marshall's post with that litany of stuff that's dark, kinda there kinda not and in completely different ways. Its a melodic and structural style, like what I posted in the sendspace rar, or at least its an emotional approach - difficult to pin down.


Problem is is that I know what you're talking about and that track right there gives the exact same feeling as you're trying to describe. There's always these low whistles that come before it that build into this track with the high breathing whistle and then as the track fades away, you get back to those low techno groans and whistles.



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28 Jan 2009, 8:05 pm

Xelebes wrote:
Problem is is that I know what you're talking about and that track right there gives the exact same feeling as you're trying to describe. There's always these low whistles that come before it that build into this track with the high breathing whistle and then as the track fades away, you get back to those low techno groans and whistles.


But I also think I did a real bad job of explaining it as well. Originally, I was thinking about the sort of psychomelodies that go beyond the pail in terms of eeriness, to where if it were about a movie like Pulse - its not just crossing into or seeing bits of the other world, its seeing the other world from the other worlds perspective, really up in your face; getting to the Silent Hill kind of depth with it but executed with a lot more class.

If that's what your talking about in terms of feeling it then yeah, I'd say were on the same page - likely you have a concept or visual matched to that which I haven't been able to come by.



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28 Jan 2009, 8:17 pm

Xelebes wrote:
I get Mark EG's techno sets from Unitedsb.de and Livesets.com :)

I have so many mixtapes, it's all I ever listen to.


Let me know if they have Mark EG - Live @ Big Bud 4th Anniversary, that was one of those that I really wanted back in the day that the tape shop I went to stiffed me on. What kills me is that if your looking for the good stuff from 1999 or 2000 - I used to hear people walking around outdoor raves with really sick stuff on boom-boxes but could never for the life of me find tapes of that quality. Chris Liberator and Mark EG were about the best I could do in that department.



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28 Jan 2009, 8:41 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Xelebes wrote:
I get Mark EG's techno sets from Unitedsb.de and Livesets.com :)

I have so many mixtapes, it's all I ever listen to.


Let me know if they have Mark EG - Live @ Big Bud 4th Anniversary, that was one of those that I really wanted back in the day that the tape shop I went to stiffed me on. What kills me is that if your looking for the good stuff from 1999 or 2000 - I used to hear people walking around outdoor raves with really sick stuff on boom-boxes but could never for the life of me find tapes of that quality. Chris Liberator and Mark EG were about the best I could do in that department.


Luckily, I'm friends with Rob Tryptomene and have chummed with Chris. Totally missed out on meeting ANT and Geezer.

Do check out Livesets.com. List of people who play good acid techno:

DDR
Geezer
Ant
The Germ (NYC)
Rob Tryptomene
Dangerous Canopy

This site is great. :)



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28 Jan 2009, 10:16 pm

sick, I'll have to have a look.