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12 May 2012, 10:03 pm

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The Pack - Science Fiction
This will be August's Camp NaNoWriMo story (well, all but the first two and a bit chapters - they're already written). I've had this planned for the last 5-7 years, but haven't gotten very far on it. NaNoWriMo always helps! Wink
Summary: Earth went on a colonization spree starting in the year 2115, when faster-than-light travel was finally made practical. Unfortunately, the Terran Confederacy that developed lost track of a number of their colonies, for a variety of reasons; augmented when the Civil War that marked the end of the Mid-Colonization Era started. But now, the war has been over for three hundred years, and the Confederacy is finally starting to make its way back out of their home systems, on a search for that which was lost. The Exploration Ship Marco Polo, after two years of investigation, finally finds a Lost Colony that has not only not gone backward technologically, but has prospered and grown, with two colonies of their own, now.
The Chikyuu-jin, the people of Shinseikatsu and the colonies Amachinowa and Heiwa, have been expecting the Terrans for all the eleven Earth centuries they have been "Lost". They have secrets - secrets that make them far more alien than the Terrans expect - they want to keep for as long as possible, and some among them willing to kill to keep those secrets. When the Terrans and those secrets clash, who will triumph? Will there be war, or will those who believe peace can happen even with the Terrans win the day?


This is my favorite one of the concepts you've listed.

I notice that a lot of your characters have Japanese names and that creatures from Japanese mythology (especially kitsunes) feature prominently. Are you Japanese or otherwise a big fan of Japanese culture?

Anyway, I've just started writing the following story, but I have a rough mental outline of where I want it to go:

Ouggiri: Nubian Queen - Fantasy/Historical
King Ajala of Nubia (an ancient kingdom in what is now Sudan) has died, leaving the throne in dispute between his daughter Ouggiri and her younger half-brother Nalsu. When Nalsu wins the priesthood's endorsement and proves to be a ruthless tyrant, Ouggiri flees to neighboring Ethiopia so she can raise an army against him. Along the way she rescues Godric, a handsome English warrior who won't explain exactly how he got lost, and then she must test her martial skills and prove herself a competent military leader.

Sorry, I suck at writing brief synopses. :(

Anyone, a little over 1,000 words and one chapter into it now.


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13 May 2012, 12:31 am

I've worked around some of my concepts and really like the decision I've come to, right now I'm researching politics and different governments. The story I'm going to be working on is like this basically: you know how the Redwall series is about heroic mice standing upright fighting with swords and being all brave and cool? Take that concept but apply it to a more modern setting, add in all sorts of small furry animals (cats, canines, ferrets, weasels, birds, etc) and add in the most absurd, manipulative, silly politics ever. The world of the story is geographically identical to our own, mostly..you have Africa, Asia, North and South America etc..some countries even have their own counterparts, such as France, Italy etc. Other (most) countries are split up very differently though there are quite a few parallels to our own real world, such as disputes over natural resources, territory etc. I guess the political thing makes it kinda like Animal Farm too.

You may be saying: well damn that's the stupidest s**t I've ever read! Cats and dogs flying fighter jets and in tanks? Birds in the chain of command? Why don't the cats eat them? Well, I'm working on that and again I'd like to reference Redwall again, since mice don't do the things...those mice do. I'd like to do multiple books and have several conflicts figured out but I'm in a mega research process now, the first story (though not chronologically the first) is going to about a battle vaguely based on the Iraq-Iran war conflict, in that it involves two similar countries who hate each other very much and are being aided by different super powers. The protagonists (the allied forces in the book) initially start out on one side and do well but manipulative and greedy politics start to screw them over and make the conflict escalate and worsen. Lots of cool battles planned but unlike a Tom Clancy book (not the biggest fan of him actually) this story is more of a fun fictional romp with twists and turns but obvious satire.

The conflict will be referred to as The War of Passive Aggression.



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13 May 2012, 1:12 am

NeueZiel wrote:
I've worked around some of my concepts and really like the decision I've come to, right now I'm researching politics and different governments. The story I'm going to be working on is like this basically: you know how the Redwall series is about heroic mice standing upright fighting with swords and being all brave and cool? Take that concept but apply it to a more modern setting, add in all sorts of small furry animals (cats, canines, ferrets, weasels, birds, etc) and add in the most absurd, manipulative, silly politics ever. The world of the story is geographically identical to our own, mostly..you have Africa, Asia, North and South America etc..some countries even have their own counterparts, such as France, Italy etc. Other (most) countries are split up very differently though there are quite a few parallels to our own real world, such as disputes over natural resources, territory etc. I guess the political thing makes it kinda like Animal Farm too.

You may be saying: well damn that's the stupidest sh** I've ever read! Cats and dogs flying fighter jets and in tanks? Birds in the chain of command? Why don't the cats eat them? Well, I'm working on that and again I'd like to reference Redwall again, since mice don't do the things...those mice do. I'd like to do multiple books and have several conflicts figured out but I'm in a mega research process now, the first story (though not chronologically the first) is going to about a battle vaguely based on the Iraq-Iran war conflict, in that it involves two similar countries who hate each other very much and are being aided by different super powers. The protagonists (the allied forces in the book) initially start out on one side and do well but manipulative and greedy politics start to screw them over and make the conflict escalate and worsen. Lots of cool battles planned but unlike a Tom Clancy book (not the biggest fan of him actually) this story is more of a fun fictional romp with twists and turns but obvious satire.

The conflict will be referred to as The War of Passive Aggression.


It's a really novel concept :D , but I'm curious, are there any humans in it?


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13 May 2012, 3:34 am

BrandonSP wrote:
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I've worked around some of my concepts and really like the decision I've come to, right now I'm researching politics and different governments. The story I'm going to be working on is like this basically: you know how the Redwall series is about heroic mice standing upright fighting with swords and being all brave and cool? Take that concept but apply it to a more modern setting, add in all sorts of small furry animals (cats, canines, ferrets, weasels, birds, etc) and add in the most absurd, manipulative, silly politics ever. The world of the story is geographically identical to our own, mostly..you have Africa, Asia, North and South America etc..some countries even have their own counterparts, such as France, Italy etc. Other (most) countries are split up very differently though there are quite a few parallels to our own real world, such as disputes over natural resources, territory etc. I guess the political thing makes it kinda like Animal Farm too.

You may be saying: well damn that's the stupidest sh** I've ever read! Cats and dogs flying fighter jets and in tanks? Birds in the chain of command? Why don't the cats eat them? Well, I'm working on that and again I'd like to reference Redwall again, since mice don't do the things...those mice do. I'd like to do multiple books and have several conflicts figured out but I'm in a mega research process now, the first story (though not chronologically the first) is going to about a battle vaguely based on the Iraq-Iran war conflict, in that it involves two similar countries who hate each other very much and are being aided by different super powers. The protagonists (the allied forces in the book) initially start out on one side and do well but manipulative and greedy politics start to screw them over and make the conflict escalate and worsen. Lots of cool battles planned but unlike a Tom Clancy book (not the biggest fan of him actually) this story is more of a fun fictional romp with twists and turns but obvious satire.

The conflict will be referred to as The War of Passive Aggression.


It's a really novel concept :D , but I'm curious, are there any humans in it?


None. Not that I can think of. I considered it for the original story concept which was totally different but would prefer not to. I kind of initially wanted humans to interact with them but it was reaaaally stretching it and all the ideas I thought up to justify it were really clunky.



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13 May 2012, 5:17 am

This idea sounds interesting.

I for myself have a big problem. I have too much ideas and I think I could never even finished one of them.



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13 May 2012, 9:27 am

BrandonSP wrote:
TrudyG wrote:
The Pack - Science Fiction


This is my favorite one of the concepts you've listed.

I notice that a lot of your characters have Japanese names and that creatures from Japanese mythology (especially kitsunes) feature prominently. Are you Japanese or otherwise a big fan of Japanese culture?


Purely Anglo/Irish Caucasian, that's me. Not entirely a fan of Japanese culture, so much as it's become an (obsessive) interest of mine. A friend (another Aspie) got me into manga and anime, and that got me interested in Japanese history and culture, and the language. With The Pack, it's partly because the original concept was for an AU fanfiction for one of those manga series, and partly because I decided to be really mean, and on Earth, Japan got destroyed by a series of bad tsunami and earthquakes just before the colony was started, so they had a lot of applicants from the now-destroyed isles of Japan. (I also wanted to play with the concepts of youkai - supernatural creatures.) In Search and Rescue - to be honest, I liked the name Ryuunosuke. So he ended up coming from a Japanese family. In The Fox's Journey, I wanted to involve a trickster, but one who wasn't from Toronto, and again, the whole exploration of youkai. So Fox decided that one of his young kitsune followers was just perfect for the job, partly because she's half-Canadian, and therefore Mayumi ended up stuck. ;)

Anyway, that's the long and the short of it. If you're interested in following up on a discussion of both our novels, as I said, feel free to PM me!

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13 May 2012, 4:24 pm

Now Ouggiri's story has almost 2,300 words in it, and I just completed the second chapter. That may not necessarily be the last chapter I write today though.


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14 May 2012, 11:50 am

Up to 3,400 words and four chapters now! :D


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26 May 2012, 10:31 pm

This isn't really on topic..but kind of, but I'm finding myself really annoyed with Armor just because of how much small talk and social interaction is used to pan out the book. Christ. Maybe I should post in the book topic instead but its really annoying me.



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10 Jun 2012, 6:12 pm

Anime habitually trips me up. It's a little aggravating, really. Makes it difficult for me to stay with a story. A story would begin with a simple idea then, out of the blue, something happens so strangely that I have to stop and think, "How is this happening?" or "Why is this happening? or "How is this possible?" Characters would be suddenly introduced where I'm have to stop and look up their meaning in the internet. I'd get lost because it seems I would've had to have done some homework somewhere before approaching this particular anime.

I like stories where the characters, motives, and scenery is believable, or at least plausible. When things just happen for the sake of continuing a story I feel both lost and cheated. I just can't accept an illogical story as is. Blood: The Last Vampire was relatively easy to grasp. Some of 'em, though. Wow!



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18 Jul 2012, 3:37 pm

One of the comments to the Book Review featured a woman who was reminded of Asperger Syndrome in her husband after reading Coetzee’s Summertime:
www.barnesandnoble.com/w/summertime-j-m ... 1100258829

Oprah’s Book Review of Coetzee’s Summertime:
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Summerti ... k-Review_1

Personally, I was able to relate parts of my life to a few parts of Coetzee's 'Summertime' e.g., relations with Father, non-tradtional vs. traditional educational experiences, current and recent social, economic, and political issues in the U.S.

"Yes, I've been told my writing indicates a style of 'novel' (no pun intended) viewpoints of the world-- which can be one of many criteria for deciding possible Nobel Prize Authors."

John Coetzee had won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2003. Could Coetzee have been the first Author with Aspergers to win the Nobel Prize in Literature?

Any other Authors (including Bestselling Authors Who’ve written content unrelated to Aspergers/Autism) who are believed to have Aspergers?



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23 Jul 2012, 3:02 am

This is my primary concern with my writing. I feel that I struggle to write 'natural' dialogue. I feel it bleeds into my descriptions as well.



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30 Jul 2012, 12:49 pm

chaosdollheads wrote:
i'm an aspie writer who expects to have his novel published (once i'm finished nitpicking it, of course). alpha readers tended to point out how one of my main characters was a jerk, an as*hole, etc. i was totally taken aback as the character was behaving as i would have and, knowing the character's intentions well, i knew they were, in fact, being kind and had very good intentions. when it comes to nuance, i need the help of my friends in this regard. it's important to get across to them what i'm trying to accomplish and what the mindset of a character is -- otherwise assumptions are made and i'm left with a novel full of unintended jerks.


I think the beauty of writing the characters in the novel is that you can allow your readers to see and feel your characters inner emotions. Show what they feel, what they are thinking and that in their minds their kids are kind and pure.

I think that many people see us Aspies as your "unintended jerks," when that is not our intentions at all.

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27 Aug 2012, 3:04 pm

Hi, I recently completed and self-published two steamy romance novels featuring an Aspergian narrator/leading man in each story. They are actually a two-part series.

The first novel is called "Topless Delivery - The Myrtle Beach Experience". The title refers to the car, not the driver. :P David, my Aspergian narrator, delivers pizzas in Myrtle Beach after completing his MBA and meets Ashley, a dancer/model/socialite, on a routine delivery who changes his life forever. A major challenge here is coming out to her with his AS diagnosis.

The sequel is called "Forever Autumn - The Myrtle Beach Experience Continues." In the sequel, David faces new challenges like working a 9 to 5 office job and living with a partner (Ashley) who wants a traditional marriage and a family. Another major challenge for any Aspergian is surviving his Engagement Party, his fiancee's Graduation Party, and the Company Christmas Party...all within the space of three weeks...while keeping his sanity in tact.


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03 Sep 2012, 2:44 pm

hyperbolic wrote:
A question I have for you all is do you think that someone with Asperger's Syndrome can become a successful author even with his difficulties in social interaction, which may be reflected in his writing, especially in the dialogue?

Another question: Does anyone know of any successful writers who have or have been suspected to have Asperger's Syndrome?

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I think it would be easier to write character interaction as an Aspie because we didn't learn it ourselves. We didn't fall into a rhythm. We aren't one specific normally behaving dialog ourselves, and as such we won't fall into a rhythm for every single character. You can define the parameters of different characters more easily, and more organized. I have a feeling that a novice NT writer could potentially face a greater threat of making all the characters act like him/her, whereas a novice Aspie writer would want clear boundaries for "person A's dialog behavior" versus "person B's dialog behavior."

I swear Star Trek was written by Aspie's. Maybe not, maybe, I don't know. But if you're worried about character dialog, look no further. Everyone's all business, except they all have a slight personality that's easy to manage. Spock is logical, Kirk is horny and macho, Scotty's the overworked laborer, Checkov is the mini-Spock voice of reason, and so on. They're all the same character with little nuances to differentiate them. If you're writing sci-fi, you can honestly do anything you want. If you're out to write the next Twilight, however, you're going to have to bone-up on ridiculous teen angst for every paragraph. But if that's not what you're writing, who says you have to tailor the dialog to a crowd you don't care about? Money? Someone will love your books and swear by them to all their friends. And if their friends don't 'get' your straightforward sense of dialog (I'm assuming) so maybe it won't be a 'perfect' book in everyone's eyes but if the plot is great and you tell it well, overall the exception will be made.

Fifty Shades of Grey, from what my friends tell me, is HORRIBLY written, yet it's still the number one selling book through amazon.co.uk... ever... beating all the Harry Potter books COMBINED. A book doesn't "have" to be anything specific to sell. It doesn't HAVE to be perfect. It just has to have an appeal.