Is today's music horrible and if so why?

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29 Nov 2011, 2:00 pm

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For certain genres, such as sexist, commercial and ignorance-worshiping hip hop (the vast majority of hip hop)


I understand the sexist bit in regards to hip-hop, and obviously, like any mainstream music, it's commercial, but how is it "ignorance worshiping"?



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29 Nov 2011, 2:02 pm

Heres another new band that sounds older.

[Youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSDF9jlX01k[/Youtube]

The problem isn't with: "today's music", it is we, the masses choosing to sit back and let the radio and television spoon feed us everything. If you are posting on this site, you have internet; which has plenty of resources to find great new music. There should be no excuse, surely you can find something you like. Do your homework before attempting to bash "today's music".



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29 Nov 2011, 2:18 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Abgal64 wrote:
For certain genres, such as sexist, commercial and ignorance-worshiping hip hop (the vast majority of hip hop)


I understand the sexist bit in regards to hip-hop, and obviously, like any mainstream music, it's commercial, but how is it "ignorance worshiping"?

Lil Wayne - Hoes (random song I picked from a song lyrics site)
Quote:
You got to talk like a pimp whats good mommee
you knew betta you threw betta who betta than
that n***a with the crisp. White tee icy white
sneaks jeans to a betta you do betta gettin yo ass
out off up in that coupe b***h. See yo ass on that new
leather and recupe b***h. Its only me you b***h on
our way to the stoop. I'm that birdman junior you ain't
know and don't give me that silly BS about you ain't
hoe. I move ya to my city put yo ass in ya 1-0. I have ya
lookin pretty at the half knock at the do. And gucci don't
fit you like it's suppose to be in pictures, I computer love
baby Wayne ya change your image. You need Weezy them other
boys just gimics. Me I'm just game, green and straight physics
is you wit it (Yeah)I ain't even tryin to hit it. I ma get it
once its time to get it.


I don't know, that's the state of hip-hop nowadays, and he's in general considered pretty good. Mind you, there's exceptions to the rule, I used to like lots of underground rappers, especially Del the Funky Homosapien, Common, Jurassic 5, now I don't quite as much, as my musical tastes have kinda matured, but on occasion I'll listen to them again. But, the state of hip-hop nowadays is...that...Or Soulja Boy. It's very very sad, probably one of my favorite rappers, Slick Rick, if he was thrown into the hip-hop market today, he'd see probably zero success and he'd only have a few listeners who are connoisseurs of hip-hop. Even for me, underground rap can be too negative, even if it has complex lyrics or whatever. Plus sometimes they rap about aliens and the New World Order and Ananuki and reptoids and whatever and I just don't care anymore.



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29 Nov 2011, 2:42 pm

Lil Wayne is particularly bad with his lyrics, I believe he doesn't even bother writing them. Most rappers have better lyrics.



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29 Nov 2011, 3:01 pm

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Lil Wayne is particularly bad with his lyrics, I believe he doesn't even bother writing them. Most rappers have better lyrics.

Modern commercial rap is the most repetitive, mindless, soulless, depraved, degenerate s**t on the planet. Even the older gangster rap like NWA had a lot more substance to it lyrically.



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29 Nov 2011, 3:10 pm

Today's music has sucked since 1984. Just ask Jello...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8SaI-NtVDM[/youtube]


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29 Nov 2011, 3:57 pm

marshall wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Lil Wayne is particularly bad with his lyrics, I believe he doesn't even bother writing them. Most rappers have better lyrics.

Modern commercial rap is the most repetitive, mindless, soulless, depraved, degenerate sh** on the planet. Even the older gangster rap like NWA had a lot more substance to it lyrically.


But there are even Lil Wayne songs which have substance and emotion, so it's not all bad. See this example:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Gf4-eT3w0[/youtube]



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30 Nov 2011, 3:09 am

marshall wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Lil Wayne is particularly bad with his lyrics, I believe he doesn't even bother writing them. Most rappers have better lyrics.

Modern commercial rap is the most repetitive, mindless, soulless, depraved, degenerate sh** on the planet. Even the older gangster rap like NWA had a lot more substance to it lyrically.


I would rather listen to ICP then that stupid crap......at least their lyrics are entertaining and not to be taken seriously.


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30 Nov 2011, 3:06 pm

I wouldn't say today's music is necessarily terrible. Sure, I do prefer older music, but at the same time I actually like a lot of stuff from today. I don't know why, but I actually like THIS song:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs[/youtube]



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30 Nov 2011, 3:31 pm

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I do not think Todays music is horrible. Most of my favorite music artists are mainstream, and I always do my best to be mainstram as possible, But I am tolorent with all kinds of music.

why?


Because I am one of these Aspies who want to fit in with everyone else. My Interest in Latin American culture helped me get into loads of Popular Latin singers, Musicians and rappers like Gloria Estefan, Carlos Santana, Pitbull, Shakira, Juanes, Ricky Martin, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Daddy Yankee and Enrique Iglesias. This has also helped me get into other mainstream singers and rappers who worked with these Latin singers like Wyclef Jean, Cypress Hill Will.i.am and the Black Eyed Peas, . I am very proud that I am working myself into Mainstream pop. I feel redeemed because of this and open to music as ever!! !.



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30 Nov 2011, 5:38 pm

Everyone who says "from this year on everything sucked" means that there was only so much of _________ they could take. If you seek out what you like you will find some modern stuff quite good. I love the Long Blondes (guilt, weeekend without makeup, etc) If you like intelligent lyrics with a good beat look them up, they disbanded in 2008 but, still modern. also Last Shadow Puppets one brilliant cd in 2008 again.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:01 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
Freak-Z wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I do not think Todays music is horrible. Most of my favorite music artists are mainstream, and I always do my best to be mainstram as possible, But I am tolorent with all kinds of music.

why?


Because I am one of these Aspies who want to fit in with everyone else. My Interest in Latin American culture helped me get into loads of Popular Latin singers, Musicians and rappers like Gloria Estefan, Carlos Santana, Pitbull, Shakira, Juanes, Ricky Martin, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Daddy Yankee and Enrique Iglesias. This has also helped me get into other mainstream singers and rappers who worked with these Latin singers like Wyclef Jean, Cypress Hill Will.i.am and the Black Eyed Peas, . I am very proud that I am working myself into Mainstream pop. I feel redeemed because of this and open to music as ever!! !.


Yeah, I don't know, I try to fit in if it'll help me. I wear, for example, preppy clothes, I don't see a reason why not, and plenty of reasons why, and they're dirt cheap from Salvation Army, too. As far as music and other things, like what you like, mainstream or not. I feel like lots of people put themselves in boxes when it comes to music, so it'll either be a like "I only listen to sophisticated music like dark ambient and symphonic death metal, get that pop stuff for people with low IQs away from me, as I am so much more advanced and on a higher level than you, peon." Or it'll be like "eww, music that's not on the radio, can't handle being given something the media does not tell me to like, you're weird!" kinda thing. I have lots of obscure musical tastes, but I do quite like, for example, a few Lady Gaga songs. I get flack for that from my friends, but hey, I like what I like.



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30 Nov 2011, 10:14 pm

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I don't know what the heck "Today's Music" is. The 90s were the last iconic decade in music as far as I can tell. Most popular stuff beyond 2000 is derivative of past genres for the most part. There's nothing new under the sun anymore, unless you look really hard, and then you're considered a hipster.

I totally agree with you.I havnt listen music such like top 40 stuff for ages. coz it would let me down again .For the music of past .I really did listen some of it in a row and never forward to change.



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30 Nov 2011, 10:14 pm

Today's mainstream music is, for the most part, terrible.

They're still making lots of good stuff though; it just doesn't get distributed by the mass media.



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01 Dec 2011, 8:12 pm

Actually, to back up today's music being terrible, I'm gonna just point to one thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler,_The_Creator was the "Best New Artist" at the MTV VMAs this year. Yay. With songs like...Odd Future - Kill People Burn s**t f**k School making said artist famous. So you can see how people would say today's music sucks... :roll:

1984's Best New Artist was Eurythmics with "Sweet Dreams" and 1986's was A-ha with "Take on Me" so yeah... You can see how you'd get that impression that music today sucks.



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01 Dec 2011, 11:35 pm

I'd say not so much. For what the pop culture machine tries to jam down our throats as the in thing might not be all that far from the truth but, its been rather odd and specific times when it wasn't like that. I get the impression that one of these days soon the US may have the flurry of genious it did in the early 90's and may pick up for how much Britain's carried the torch for the last decade or so, we have to be getting to rock bottom here pretty soon and when the big record labels realize that we're sick to death of people who are famous for the sake of being famous and regurgitating a few hooks someone else gave them - they may be forced to take the risk on some artists who have real talent and, if the stuff is intelligent and they risk scaring off their prospective buyers by that - they won't really have a choice to keep playing it safe in that sense.


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