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01 Apr 2008, 1:18 pm

JohnHopkins wrote:
Common misconception - 'hardcore metal' is not a genre.


What do you mean? I used to know people who were really into 'hardcore metal'. It's hardcore that sounds like metal, or metal that's fast like hardcore (whichever way you look at it). :? I'm not into it myself. It's too one-dimensional.



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01 Apr 2008, 1:50 pm

Hardcore and metal are different things. Hardcore that sounds like metal is metalcore. Metal that's fast like hardcore is thrash.



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01 Apr 2008, 2:39 pm

D1nk0 wrote:
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haha, jazz covers so much as a genre. I bet most of you who write it off have not even heard most of the styles it contains.
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Um, I beg to differ. The only style of Jazz that I like is Jazz fusion from the 70s because it primarily uses synthesizers AND it blends Jazz with Funk(which I Totally dig). But for the most part I detest Jazz because other than Jazz fusion it is entirely major key and obnoxiously upbeat and has zero potential for being dark and brooding.


Thanks for the back-up Rainking and Futurecatlady- good to know I'm not the only one with a tad more exposure to jazz music. ;)

Look dink, I like the whole 70s jazz fusion funk thing. In fact, I have danced around in my underwear to Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Sister Andrea" more times than I will ever admit to. But your all-inclusive assessment of the rest of jazz as being "entirely major key and obnoxiously upbeat" with "zero potential for being dark and brooding" is just plain wrong.

Just to name some various standards off the top of my head- "Take Five" is mostly in Gb minor with a moderate tempo, Billy Holliday is rarely upbeat ("Don't Explain" and "Gloomy Sundays" come to mind), Gershwin's Summertime (Yes, still a form of jazz) is neither major nor obnoxious, and the song "Strange Fruit"....just how more dark and brooding can you get?

Perhaps your obnoxious, overly happy impression of jazz comes from the well-known big bands of the 40s like Cab Calloway and Artie Shaw. During wartime, people wanted upbeat music- but I can understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea today.

It's a shame though- those guys put some great stuff out there, but I know not every cat is hep enough to dig that jive. 8)



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01 Apr 2008, 2:55 pm

Walrus-metal. (someone else here coined the term, when the lead singer sound like an enraged, or dying walrus. The way they hold the mike even reminds me of one... this is MY beach! Find your own cow!)

Modern country (sounds like ordinary pop with a fiddle or steel guitar added into the mix for that 'authentic country sound' and the vocals draaaaawwwwled out. Pronouncing 'truck' with two syllables, etc.

Anything by the bands Ween or Flaming Lips.

Tejano. (if you don't know, it's Mexican traditional folk, but with a surprising Germanic accordion/tuba counterpart. I'm not making this up)

Most rap, hip/hop. Most. Pure obnoxious. Look at the videos.

Improvisational jazz. (It's all made up on the spot!)



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01 Apr 2008, 5:21 pm

My stepfather sometimes puts Irish trad music on the television and I'll admit that not only have I not managed to get into the stuff, it also makes me want to leave the room. It all sounds the same to me, perhaps there are nuances that I haven't bothered to hear in the music but it hasn't really been from lack of trying.



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01 Apr 2008, 7:05 pm

Hiphop/rap
trance



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01 Apr 2008, 7:54 pm

Don't really care much for country, but I love folk which some people consider to be similar.

I don't like hardcore or any music that just sounds like someone yelling.

For the most part I dislike rap. I don't mind if some artists that don't usually rap incorporate it into their music though, like Michael Franti & Spearhead. Without exception, I hate gangsta rap.

I'm sure this covers a few genres of music, but I don't like any music that is repetitive and doesn't build up to something interesting. A lot of electronic music comes to mind, even though I love a lot of music in this genre.

I don't like any music that seems to serve as a vehicle for self-promotion. A fair amount of popular music seems to revolve around this.



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01 Apr 2008, 9:11 pm

I also dislike modern country music. It obviously tries to sound like country.

JohnHopkins wrote:
Hardcore and metal are different things. Hardcore that sounds like metal is metalcore. Metal that's fast like hardcore is thrash.


Metalcore is what we're talking about of course. It's structured like hardcore, except the guitars are distorted like metal. That basically makes it belong to both categories, so hardcore metal would be just as appropiate a term. Thrash doesn't share much with hardcore, it was influenced by earlier punk rock.



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01 Apr 2008, 11:03 pm

Enigmatic! You're into Spearhead?? I ADORE Michael Franti and Spearhead. I became a fan of theirs when a coworker at the alternative newspaper I worked for lent me a tape. I got to chat with him briefly when the music editor and I went to one of their shows. I didn't wash the hand he shook for about three days. lol
I don't actually meet that many people who are into them. His fans seem to be a bit of a cult.
He is a "rapper", but it's all positive/spiritual/political. Serious stuff with very creative songwriting. He's come to be known as the next generation's Gil Scott Heron (another fave of mine).


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01 Apr 2008, 11:59 pm

Well I Do like Pat Metheny, Wayne Shorter, and ofcourse the late great Josef Zawinul :D .
There was a Jazz fusion group called Weather Report which produced a song I really digg to this day: its called Boogie-woogie waltz 8) . But honestly, I Much prefer (70s)Funk to Jazz. Funk most Definitely can sound Quite DArk: Gary Numan produced a funk-influenced album in 1982- I, Assassin.



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02 Apr 2008, 11:02 pm

Prog rock
Emo
Rap/Hiphop/RnB
Any form of Metal
Today's pop music
Dance/Trance/Hard House, quite horrible forms of EDM (Yup, it's called EDM, not Techno. Techno is a subgenre of EDM (an underrated one too which is majorally mistakend for Dance/Trance), and EDM is a subgenre of electronic music.)
"New Rave"



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02 Apr 2008, 11:08 pm

Boy Bands

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03 Apr 2008, 1:49 am

Kelly Clarkson, techno Kelly Clarkson, Country Kelly Clarkson.



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03 Apr 2008, 2:11 am

first of all im amazed there haven't been any nonsensical internet arguments in this thread considering the topic, we may have proved Godwin's Law doesn't apply to WP

ford_prefects_kid wrote:
haha, jazz covers so much as a genre. I bet most of you who write it off have not even heard most of the styles it contains.

i feel the same way about metal, but i imagine an enthusiast of any style would, especially considering Replica's post
(i dont pretend to be familiar with jazz)

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Walrus-metal. (someone else here coined the term, when the lead singer sound like an enraged, or dying walrus. The way they hold the mike even reminds me of one... this is MY beach! Find your own cow!)

im still laughing about this one, ive gotta start using it, who thought of it?


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03 Apr 2008, 4:03 am

Country, jazz, blues, R&B, rap, metal...

There's probably more but those are the big ones.



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03 Apr 2008, 5:54 pm

With notable exceptions:

classical, especially strings
jazz
ska
all radio music from the past 15 years (the stuff they play on Clear Channel and MTV)
slow Bob-Marley-ish reggae
prog rock
jam bands
metalcore
anything "emo" from the late 80s through the present
disco
most types of electronic music (from industrial to house to trance to whatever the kids are into these days)
most stuff that's in the mixolydian mode (like jazz!)
street punk
most stuff that's on labels like Fat Wreck Chords, Epitaph, Sub Pop, etc.

Actually, it's absurd for me to even attempt to make such a list. Let's face it - I'm a music snob. I like different kinds of music, but I'm very particular. There's so much I don't like, I could never successfully list it all.