21 May 2007, 3:21 am
21 May 2007, 4:43 am
21 May 2007, 5:54 am
mouapp wrote:
i dont know what i was saying anymore
but i thought the point of noise is that it has nothing to do with conventional music .... isent it a form of absurdism?
but i thought the point of noise is that it has nothing to do with conventional music .... isent it a form of absurdism?
You're asking if it's part of a Philosophy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism
It's just music.
21 May 2007, 6:25 am
21 May 2007, 6:27 am
21 May 2007, 6:29 am
well i thought death, exhorder, and napalm death were all pretty key metal groups. (along with kmfdm)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFOWeCBGJg[/youtube]
had to post that one video. 
21 May 2007, 6:36 am
21 May 2007, 6:46 am
Napalm Death and KMFDM key to Death Metal? What are you smoking, 'cause it sounds illegal.
21 May 2007, 6:48 am
ah well, whatever.
21 May 2007, 6:49 am
Deus_ex_machina wrote:
Napalm Death and KMFDM key to Death Metal? What are you smoking, 'cause it sounds illegal.
well i meant more key root metal groups.....not to death metal.
really, exhorder is more key to thrash than death metal. kmfdm is more key to industrial....but napalm death actually is pretty key to death metal....so i'm not sure what you're smoking there....but i want at least an eighth of it.
21 May 2007, 8:18 am
21 May 2007, 9:16 am
21 May 2007, 9:24 am
JakeG wrote:
Deus_ex_machina wrote:
JakeG wrote:
Much of what Cade said made sense, even if it didn't directly apply to the thread-starter; there are many people out there who it does apply too.
I think another thing to consider about music is that ones enjoyment of it depends on how closely you listen to it and what you listen to it for. I mean some listen to a niche area of pop/rock to fit into a particular subculture, some listen to music in the background and some listen to it as an event in itself. Even the latter depends on how much you want to concentrate on it. People are so conditioned to be fed culture in short easy mouthfuls that listening to one, basic sub-genre of pop is the easiest way to get their fill of music.
For example, I tend to only really listen to rock/pop/metal (I call anything that isn't art music, pop music) when I am doing something else like driving for instance, as I just don't generally find it as interesting to devote my entire concentration to without doing something else. Or sometimes, I listen to high energy metal music more for the rush and energy of it then the actual melodic, rythmic and harmonic (e.g. musical) aspects. Whereas if I am sitting down to just listen to music and do nothing else then I generally prefer to listen to stuff that has a wider range of sonorities, harmony, melody and rythm than most pop music.
I think another thing to consider about music is that ones enjoyment of it depends on how closely you listen to it and what you listen to it for. I mean some listen to a niche area of pop/rock to fit into a particular subculture, some listen to music in the background and some listen to it as an event in itself. Even the latter depends on how much you want to concentrate on it. People are so conditioned to be fed culture in short easy mouthfuls that listening to one, basic sub-genre of pop is the easiest way to get their fill of music.
For example, I tend to only really listen to rock/pop/metal (I call anything that isn't art music, pop music) when I am doing something else like driving for instance, as I just don't generally find it as interesting to devote my entire concentration to without doing something else. Or sometimes, I listen to high energy metal music more for the rush and energy of it then the actual melodic, rythmic and harmonic (e.g. musical) aspects. Whereas if I am sitting down to just listen to music and do nothing else then I generally prefer to listen to stuff that has a wider range of sonorities, harmony, melody and rythm than most pop music.
I suppose I'll have to inform Japanese Noise bands that they don't play music because they don't conform to what you deem to be music.
I'd also like to know what in your opinion "Art Music" is. In my opinion it's completely redundant as all Music is Art, Art being a form of expression, the only reason a person somebody might use it is to try to make their music seem "better" some how, like it's more complex or interesting.
Seriously you really need to get out more (In a musical sense), and realise that Metal and other styles of music aren't as restrictive as you've lead yourself to think. You could start with Ephel Duath and Ulver, maybe try looking at the Avant Garde Metal article Wikipedia has set up which is nice.
I never said anything about Japanese Noise band. If you are referring to my comments about form, then I think if you looked carefully enough you would see that there is a type of form that they adhere to (even if it be that it is fairly unrestrictive).
By the term 'Art Music', I meant what most people would call 'Classical Music'. I dislike the term 'Classical Music' however as most of my favourite Art Music is either from before the actual Classical period (e.g. Bach) or after (Romantic period, Impressionist, 20th Century etc.)
And by the way, I do listen to (or have heard) a fairly large amount of metal music, much of which I like and still listen too. This would include some metal that may be termed Avant Garde such as Behold the Arctopus (I recommend that you check them out if you haven't - I believe they have some free mp3s on their site)
I am a music snob; I listen to (or at least like elements of) pretty much most Western styles of the last 500 years (within reason).
fixed yer post
