So who like rap music?

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I'm more of a Tricky fan in terms of hip-hop/rap (not trip-hop the magazines decided to call it trip-hop) in all honesty I otherwise cant stand modern rap at least most commercially successful rap if all you can sing about is "b%$&*# and bling" you're doing more harm than good to creativity in the genre. Sure there are artists with more to say but the successful ones are few and far between these days.

Kool G Rap (is the top dog)
Kool Kieth
K.M.D
KRS-1

+ rza, gza & ol dirty bza etc.

Big L
Biggie
Brand Nubian
Black Moon (enta da stage)




they are all on steady rotation round my way.

I'll look them up when I have some time!

Oh, BTW: Anybody knows futuristic sex robots... I like their song Back to the Future.

Something else I see in this thread, seems like a lot of people are almost disclaiming as a precept "No, I don't like gangster". I still like a lot of that as well, just that it doesn't do much for me unless its articulate, has a rhyme scheme that isn't real easy and formulaic (something that lends a good ambiance), and of course real good beats - alternative rappers can still nail the beats well but its still not quite the same.

Yeah, there is a lot of elitism within rap fandom. A lot more people are getting into rap these days, but unfortunately, tons of people are into this nerdcore stuff (which really isn't me) and they just instantaneously discount anything gangsta. It's as bad as the people who don't listen to rap at all.

Gangsta rap can be amazing. Listen to Dr. Dre's productions - they are textured, layered, brilliant, and better than anything I've heard on a nerdcore track. Listen to them on headphones and you'll see an uncanny attention to detail that in a lot of rap just isn't there. Listen to the first NWA album and hear the way that so many of the songs will stop and spin off in a totally different direction, like 'Gangsta, Gangsta,' where so few rap artists nowadays will do that - they'll find a beat and a hook and just work it to death for the whole song.

Plus, gangsta rap actually has the emotional grime to staple the beat. When I'm listening to a lot of stuff, sober or otherwise, I want something that's emotionally immersive and kinda angular in that regard. When you have a beat where it feels like its breathing, twisting in and out of itself, getting lost in its own atmosphere, and its the kind of thing where if you listened to it baked reality would start pulverizing within it - that's good s--- in my books; having sort of bleak and defiled lyrics and concepts just adds to that.

Kinda like how when I listen to actual 'techno' techno that I like is the stuff that's real grimy, dysphoric, feels like an 80's antidrug commercial; pretty much Russian mafia and prole type isht and sometimes, not always, the nastier and more vile the energy the better (depends on the producer and their tastes in matching sound with ambiance and ideas). With rap, while I can get into the geeky science-and-theory type stuff some of the time, it still feels like its really lacking something emotionally a lot of times - unless they really go over the top with street wisdom and altruism (like Maxi Jazz from faithless and other people with that sort of spin and outlook) ie. it doesn't seem like many U.S. artists really push that angle or at least from an emotional angle that I actually like all that much.