Why is it so wrong to like pop music?

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03 Aug 2012, 6:45 pm

Being into something that is mainstream or 'pop'-ular shows that you are a good little sheep marching along with the flock.


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03 Aug 2012, 7:35 pm

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I've noticed pop fans are ignorant and just like it to fit in. Hell, they recently had a study proving music is starting to all sound the same and is getting louder.


Popular music has always been the same, every decade or era has its signature sound. There's nothing new about that.
And what if you genuinely like music that happens to be popular? People can listen to what they want for whatever reason.

Music is meant to stimulate the senses, to entertain. People are entertained by different kinds of music, just because it's not some "deep", miserable, Johnny Cash-esque thing does not make it inferior.


I listen to polka for fun music...so there ya go. However, when music doesn;t utilize its full range of instruments I get annoyed. Of course, if you take it to an extreme, you get something that is as much of a clusterf**k as prog bands like The Mars Volta or Nine Inch Nails if it is sampling. I don't want super technical (most technical I get is Allegaeon) and I don't want super simple (most simple I get is probably Three Days Grace or old Linkin Park)


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03 Aug 2012, 8:07 pm

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There is absolutly no harm in liking Pop music. I would personally encourage it.


Thereis no virtue in listening to Pop, so why encourage it?

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Because to integrate to the mainstream society. You can still like alternative music, but it is best to like mainstream music for social reasons.


Maybe for you, but not everyone wants to fit into mainstream society.


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04 Aug 2012, 12:23 am

Laconvivencia wrote:
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There is absolutly no harm in liking Pop music. I would personally encourage it.


Thereis no virtue in listening to Pop, so why encourage it?

\m/


Because to integrate to the mainstream society. You can still like alternative music, but it is best to like mainstream music for social reasons.


The people who like Pop music and dislike people who dislike pop are the last people I want to associate with. I can't like music I don't like.


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04 Aug 2012, 12:30 am

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When you say Ke$ha is krunk, do you mean the music style? To me her music doesn't resemble Krunk or is it spelled crunk?


It's crappy watered down hip-hop about partying and being a b***h, isn't that what Crunk is? In the very least she was featured as a guest in a Crunkcore album, and Crunkcore is the absolute worst music ever made.


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04 Aug 2012, 12:49 am

I don't know the crunk I know sounds nothing like kesha or however you spell her name. On wikipedia she is described as pop and nothing to do with hip hop.



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04 Aug 2012, 7:48 am

What the hell is "crunk"?


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04 Aug 2012, 8:35 am

Either southern hip hop or
Crunk, or Krunk, is a music style that originated in Memphis, Tennessee[1] in the mid-to-late 1990s and gained mainstream success around 2003–04.[2] Performers of crunk music are sometimes referred to as crunksters.[3] An archetypal crunk track most frequently uses a drum machine rhythm, heavy bassline, and shouting vocals, often in call and response manner.[2] The term crunk is also used as a blanket term to denote any style of southern hip hop, a side effect of the genre's breakthrough to the mainstream.[3]



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04 Aug 2012, 9:23 am

Thank you thewrll...what about lyrical themes?


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04 Aug 2012, 10:28 am

SanityTheorist wrote:
Thank you thewrll...what about lyrical themes?


It consists entirely of stuff about partying and the like.


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04 Aug 2012, 10:35 am

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I listen to pop music when I'm alone, but I'm afraid to share my music tastes because most people in my social sphere disapprove.

Yes, I listen to Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, and the like. I tried exploring different genres. I like some upbeat classical music, too, but it takes a lot of focus to listen to because it's really intricate (and with a busy schedule, I rarely have time to be able to do this). Pop music is simple and repetitive, making for good background music. Also, I enjoy the energy that pop music has. I don't know. It's addictive and I can't explain it. I just want to listen to more and more of it. It really matches my mood, which is usually hyper and energetic aside from when I'm depressed.

But people keep telling me that I should listen to stuff that's either too depressing, does not have enough beat, or is not repetitive enough. So I keep my mouth shut about my music preferences. I don't know what to do about this, though. It's so constricting, especially when everyone in a room is talking about music and I have nothing to say because I'm afraid to share.


Okay, to bring back the OP for a moment...

It's not "wrong" to like pop music, per se. Some people like it, some don't. It's all a matter of preference. It only becomes an issue when a particular group feels that their preference overrides another for one particular reason or another (admittedly, I'm a part of that camp, but am trying to get out of it).


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04 Aug 2012, 2:52 pm

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One would need a clear definition of 'art music' or 'classics' to agree or disagree with your strong assertion.


The definitions on Wikipedia are clear if you want a start.

By the way, I don't understand this need to be mainstream as expressed by some people here. Being mainstream and fitting in society seem very different things to me. I'm rather sorry to say that, in my opinion, being mainstream and follow the masses if you take for reference society in general is not really the best way to chose...

Edit : Arf, excuse me, it seems I've confounded popular music and pop. Sorry. :roll: It doesn't change what I said, because pop is in popular music, but it was a bit out of place.

According to Wikipedia, Classic Rock was a term created by radio stations, which makes it mainsteam: "Classic rock is a radio format which developed from the album-oriented rock (AOR) format in the early 1980s", art rock is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_rock again some examples here are highly esteemed, definitely rated by the public above pop in my opinion. For example, I doubt most people haven't heard of Pink Floyd. Why don't most people *listen* to Pink Floyd (persumably) is a matter of opinion, but I don't think you can narrow down the reason people prefer simple to complex compositions to marketing force and such like. Especially when a few of the artists mention were/are big and generally had excellent marketing in their time.


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04 Aug 2012, 3:05 pm

just so long as you dont really like Beiber, then thats ok (just kidding - although I can't stand him)



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04 Aug 2012, 4:05 pm

To me any artists songs can be not totally mainstream if said song is either one noone has ever heard of, a different genre, a song you may enjoy but is said to be one of the artists worst.



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04 Aug 2012, 4:24 pm

le generally true thewrll, The Bleeding by Five Finger Death Punch is their most dynamic. granted, the success form it caused them to be a lot less interesting after War is the Answer (and even that felt a bit too commercial.)


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09 May 2013, 5:34 pm

I'm really into pop music from 1985-1986. I recently started searching billboard google books for all 104 weeks of playlists of MTV, top 100 singles, etc and listening to almost everything on youtube, I've discovered some great gems. and I like to do my own rankings from all the songs I hear currently working on May 10, 1986. yes, I'm really,really on the autistic spectrum.