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21 Apr 2024, 3:48 pm

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^ Wow! That song hits hard. 8O Thanks for posting it!

It’s totally okay to get political (or not) here. Whatever goes as long as it’s not unsupportive or snarky in any way or dismissive of women’s struggles, issues, or experiences.

I know you know that. I just felt like saying it.



Yeah, I know. It just gets frustrating when women are portrayed as warriors or goddesses as if they're superhuman caricatures, and their lives are defined by their relationship to men, or their power and/or lack thereof.

I'd prefer a world where we can celebrate women for being average normal people who don't conquer any subset of people, women who might be quiet or gentle, or whatever the heck they were born to be.

I'm not dismissing those who do. I just wanted to represent all women, even the meek or unsuccessful.

Anyway, LABOUR was so on-point it brought me to tears, especially the lines about nymphs, virgins, servants etc.
That's exactly my point that we don't always need to be defined.


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21 Apr 2024, 4:01 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
^ Wow! That song hits hard. 8O Thanks for posting it!

It’s totally okay to get political (or not) here. Whatever goes as long as it’s not unsupportive or snarky in any way or dismissive of women’s struggles, issues, or experiences.

I know you know that. I just felt like saying it.



Yeah, I know. It just gets frustrating when women are portrayed as warriors or goddesses as if they're superhuman caricatures, and their lives are defined by their relationship to men, or their power and/or lack thereof.

I'd prefer a world where we can celebrate women for being average normal people who don't conquer any subset of people, women who might be quiet or gentle, or whatever the heck they were born to be.

I'm not dismissing those who do. I just wanted to represent all women, even the meek or unsuccessful.


I don’t find that frustrating. It’s not like there’s any shortage of male warriors, gods, or superheroes. As someone who loved fantasy when I was growing up, I really appreciated strong female characters in video games and books. It doesn’t mean that I don’t also celebrate normal people.

We have represented a lot of different women in this thread already.



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21 Apr 2024, 4:12 pm

Hugs!

I wasn't complaining and I didn't mean you or your thread were frustrating. I meant that there's a propensity in the media to exalt the warrior types, whether men or women, but most of us are just average people doing the best we can from day to day. That's not to undermine the strong women who've helped us achieve the liberties we have today. :heart:





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21 Apr 2024, 4:37 pm



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She Got Arrested
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21 Apr 2024, 4:46 pm



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I feel just like I'm sinking
And I claw for solid ground
I'm pulled down by the undertow
I never thought I could feel so low
And oh, darkness, I feel like letting go





Full of Grace
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21 Apr 2024, 4:52 pm



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Eleanor Rigby
Picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window
Wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for?

Eleanor Rigby
Died in the church and was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie
Wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved




Eleanor Rigby
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21 Apr 2024, 4:57 pm




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Fine On The Outside
Priscilla Ahn

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52 Girls
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21 Apr 2024, 6:19 pm

How about the song where Homer and Bart try to save the old cabaret club in Springfield? :D



My mom actually likes cabaret clubs because they were a way for women back in the old days to earn their own wages and the risque songs and dances they did were very entertaining.

I guess in a way the Cabaret girls were kind of like the Geisha I mentioned earlier. It was a way for women to be entertaining and earn their own money, so there was a kind of freedom to these professions. 8)


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21 Apr 2024, 6:27 pm



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21 Apr 2024, 6:32 pm





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You had me several years ago when I was still quite naive
Well you said that we made such a pretty pair and that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved
And one of them was me






You're So Vain
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21 Apr 2024, 6:42 pm




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21 Apr 2024, 6:57 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
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Editors Note
Twilight, I understand this song is not what you had in mind when you created this thread. I do believe Sandy thought she was helping women when she wrote it so it does technically fit the criteria you set for this thread. But I would be very understanding if you requested the mods delete this post.
I think songs like that are important, especially from a historical perspective. I can actually relate to a lot of it except the being glad part because I know I deserve better. It demonstrates how far we’ve come in my opinion. Hopefully, some songs of today will inspire similar feelings in future generations.

I was not aware of that song until recently upon seeing those lists. I received a radio for my 12th birthday in 1969 and graduated from children's songs to pop and rock songs. When I look back I find a lot of songs that I can’t believe I thought nothing of or was funny at the time. That said I can not think of any time that I would not have been shocked by those lyrics.

Another song that appears near the top of these lists is a 1963 song written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David. Jack Jones would win a Grammy for Best Male Vocal for singing it and it would hit #14 on the charts.


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21 Apr 2024, 6:59 pm

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Yesterday a child came out to wander
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star

Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like, "When you're older" must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams

16 springs and 16 summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels through the town
And they tell him, "Take your time, it won't be long now
'Til you drag your feet to slow the circles down"

So the years spin by and now the boy is 20
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through

And the seasons, they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look
Behind, from where we came
And go round and round and round, in the circle game





The Circle Game
Joni Mitchell - Sung by Amber and Sarah on "Parenthood"


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21 Apr 2024, 7:06 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Editors Note
Twilight, I understand this song is not what you had in mind when you created this thread. I do believe Sandy thought she was helping women when she wrote it so it does technically fit the criteria you set for this thread. But I would be very understanding if you requested the mods delete this post.
I think songs like that are important, especially from a historical perspective. I can actually relate to a lot of it except the being glad part because I know I deserve better. It demonstrates how far we’ve come in my opinion. Hopefully, some songs of today will inspire similar feelings in future generations.

I was not aware of that song until recently upon seeing those lists. I received a radio for my 12th birthday in 1969 and graduated from children's songs to pop and rock songs. When I look back I find a lot of songs that I can’t believe I thought nothing of or was funny at the time. That said I can not think of any time that I would not have been shocked by those lyrics.

Another song that appears near the top of these lists is a 1963 song written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David. Jack Jones would win a Grammy for Best Male Vocal for singing it and it would hit #14 on the charts.

Oh man. :lol: Songs like that make me want to wear sweatpants and baggy tee shirts.