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27 Jun 2010, 4:01 pm

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Did anyone put down H. P. Lovecraft(The creator of the Cthulhu Mythos)?
And although I hate to admit it, but I think Josef Mengele(the crazy Nazi doctor from Auschwitz-Birkenau) might have been an Aspie too.
As well as Truman Capote and maybe Robert E. Howard(who was a close friend of Lovecraft's and the creator of Conan)


HP Lovecraft - He was just eccentric. Eccentric =! Asperger's
Truman Capote - hell no, the complete opposite.
Josef Mengele - had something else going on besides Asperger's


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft
Read about his childhood especially.

Again, for Truman, either read about his childhood or read the book To Kill A Mockingbird. Dill, on of the main characters is based almost completely on Capote when he was a kid(Harper Lee was his neighbour and best friend) or read wikipedia.

Mengele, that's one I'm not too sure, but my friend Helixstein tells me hat he has studied the guys biography on wikipedia and stuff and says that he really thinks the man had it. I'll have to look that one up.


1. I read the Wikipedia article. Lovecraft had so much going on that you can't lump it all under "Asperger's." And again, eccentric =! Asperger's.
2. Being a lonely kid =! Asperger's. He was also a really, really outgoing person.
3. Diagnosing dead people is ultimately pointless. You can't get a completely accurate diagnosis unless you talk to someone, and all of those people are long dead. A lot of the armchair "diagnoses" on this board just seem like wishful thinking. If you have to diagnose a long-dead person or someone you'll never meet with Asperger's so you can feel better about having the condition, then you probably have issues that are deeper than AS.


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29 Jun 2010, 6:16 pm

Pretty much anyone that had a significant place in history.

For example:
4. writes with crayons
11. is not human
16. needs more cowbell
26. kicked his own ass
29. can't read
57. chose the wrong "chosen one"
96. shoulda strangled Oprah Winfrey
165. hates socks
184. the Beetles missed him. All of the Beetles missed him

You did forget Ladyhawke.


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05 Jul 2010, 10:26 am

This list contains just about every famous person I've ever heard of lol.



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14 Jul 2010, 7:35 am

Keanu reeves is definitly an aspie I knw that much not sure abt the rest dnt think there is more than 2 actual aspies there x


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16 Jul 2010, 9:36 am

HA what a load of shizzle.

Litterally just listed loads of famous people. Some i could understand like Tim burton, Frank Zappa, Thom Yorke, Bjork, Aphex Twin, but most of it is crazy! Adam Sandler, Christian Bale, Nicole Kidman, Gyllenhall siblings???? lol very silly


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16 Jul 2010, 4:14 pm

Dogenegra wrote:
HA what a load of shizzle.

Litterally just listed loads of famous people. Some i could understand like Tim burton, Frank Zappa, Thom Yorke, Bjork, Aphex Twin, but most of it is crazy! Adam Sandler, Christian Bale, Nicole Kidman, Gyllenhall siblings???? lol very silly


I checked the OP's posting history. Every single one of his posts is about which celebrities have ASD. I think he might have diagnosed anyone who's even slightly famous. Seriously, WTF.


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19 Jul 2010, 4:30 am

Delirium wrote:
Dogenegra wrote:
HA what a load of shizzle.

Litterally just listed loads of famous people. Some i could understand like Tim burton, Frank Zappa, Thom Yorke, Bjork, Aphex Twin, but most of it is crazy! Adam Sandler, Christian Bale, Nicole Kidman, Gyllenhall siblings???? lol very silly


I checked the OP's posting history. Every single one of his posts is about which celebrities have ASD. I think he might have diagnosed anyone who's even slightly famous. Seriously, WTF.


One may question wether he should be here at all :? ... if you get my drift

ooh I think there's a conspiracy alight :!:


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09 Sep 2010, 3:23 am

There's an interesting point to be made though about Asperger's symptoms being held up as exotic by the NT population because they are attached to celebrities. This is probably good in that if Aspies then display these behaviours we are being eccentric like Tim Burton rather than anything more sinister.

I tend to think a majority of these celebrities are not AS but are experiencing the same things as many Aspies - of social isolation of all social interaction being alien, which it must be once people know more about you than you do about them. They are also being judged in ways they can't interpret and there are probably no received rules on how to behave.



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09 Sep 2010, 3:46 am

From what I've read by and about Bill Murray (interviews, etc.), he sounds VERY much like he has Asperger's. Most of the rest of the list I'm a little skeptical about, but I don't know where the autism spectrum really begins and ends.


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09 Sep 2010, 4:23 am

Nor me. It's not like two different planets really, is it? The space between is populated by a load of people with both sets of characteristics, some innate, some acquired, some of whom identify themselves as Aspie, others of whom identify themselves as geeks or losers, or genii!



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15 Sep 2010, 3:58 pm

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Russell Crowe is no Aspie. I used to drink with him at the Coffs Harbour Hotel, and he's the complete NT alpha male.


Just how I imagined him to be.

Definetly NOT aspis.



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16 Sep 2010, 8:06 pm

Ray Davies is diagnosed bipolar, I think (CockneyRebel correct me if I'm wrong). I mean, it's not impossible that he could have both conditions.

Pete Townshend could be an aspie - or he could just be messed up by getting famous at 19 years old, taking too many drugs, being abused as a kid and having people call him a genius.

The same applies to Ray, to a lesser extent (apart from the drugs and the child abuse) - because he got less famous. I get the impression being famous in the 60s messed weird people up even more.



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17 Sep 2010, 8:43 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Dylan were an aspie.

Since he is one of my aspie obsessions, I've watched older videos where he's answering questions from journalists and he doesn't make eye contact or address their questions coherently. He also didn't recognize the tones and emotions of the journalists. And of course, he doesn't know what his songs are about, even when fans and journalists ask him.

Also, interviews and books state him as being quiet. Though, in his autobiography, Dylan denies being quiet and says he is instead being "polite".

He was also very mean to Joan Baez. Perhaps unintentionally so. He would laugh at her and call her names despite being her boyfriend. Maybe he couldn't feel anything. Similarly, his girlfriend's mother (mother of the girl on Freewheelin' Bob Dylan) called him selfish and greedy. He couldn't understand why she said that and never understood why he was looked down upon. Both ex's seem to remain on good terms with him though.

His sunglasses might have to do with his eye contact as well. He wore them a lot. A lot.

Has "eccentric" behavior. This is evidenced when he was picked up by a police car for having walked around at night, searching for rock star's old homes. Apparently, he has an obsession with doing this.

Other eccentric incident is him cooking chemicals in a porta-pottie near his home, which bothered his neighbors.

Some Hibbing, Minnesota folks think he is "creepy".

Ran off with people's record collections without feeling guilty. Jokingly (maybe) justified his actions by telling Scorsese that he knew he needed the records to satisfy his destiny.

Never fit in during his teenage years in Hibbing.

Enrolled at the Univ. of Minnesota. Didn't attend classes. Instead, he chose his own reading material.

Phases where he was obsessed with certain singers. Most famous example is Woody Guthrie, of whom he was influenced by. He memorized and performed many, many Guthrie songs and visited Guthrie in the hospital.



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17 Sep 2010, 1:17 pm

Lady Gaga is an aspie ...


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19 Sep 2010, 2:27 pm

Interesting that no politicians are on the list.
But not surprising.

Politics is an unlikey arena for an aspie to succeed in so I doubt many politicians are aspie.

One exception could be soon-to-be-ex mayor of DC Adrian Fenty.

He admits to having trouble "playing well with others".



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19 Sep 2010, 11:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Interesting that no politicians are on the list.
But not surprising.

Politics is an unlikey arena for an aspie to succeed in so I doubt many politicians are aspie.


possible in local politics maybe, where charisma matters less.


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