Brave new world

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i brought this up in a different thread but id like to know from the rest of you.

Brave new world by aldous huxley, your thoughts?

I'd like to move to this world. At least to try how it is, maybe it wouldn't be real Beautiful New World (sorry, it exists in my mind as beautiful, I can't believe it was original brave, this word sounds wrong for me, brave means sb loud and stupid for me).

World in 1984 could be hardcore, but I don't understand why some people wanted to destroy BNW-system, it wasn't so bad!

the circle of creation breeds destructive tendancys. the phoenix imagary, life must be destroyed to be born again

There are so few readers left in the world now that such a "beastly, beastly book" would need to be made into a movie to be more commented upon.

Then at last, we will no longer need to ban books because there will be no one left who wants to read one.

So where are we headed? Another comment brought up 1984. Are we headed towards the situation where we are being deprived of information, or the situation where we are so overwhelmed by it that begin to lose sight of our lives in the wake of Steve-O's latest stunts? Is the internet keeping information from you or giving you so much that you blink twice and notice your entire evening has vanished? I suppose there is some irony here, this being an internet post and all ... it leaves me little room in which to complain. But I digress.

Oh brave new world, that has such people in it. I know whence we came from. And I think I know too where we will go.

not talking about the movie. but if thats what it takes to open people up to it im all for it. like fight club i didnt even know it was a book first. so i bought the book and loved it more than the movie.

in the case of the brave new world i read the book first loved it, watched the movie after and hated it. somethings are such that only your imagination can do it justice

I read it a few years ago, and only vaguely remember it as being "a bit like Cyteen", or vice versa. So it didn't make much of an impression on me. ^^

Probably my favorite book. Frighteningly predictive of where society seems to be headed.

A great book.

There actually was a 1980's BNW TV movie that's pretty good. It's rather obscure. Of course, bits of BNW have been recycled into many other movies ever since it was written.

Posting this for those who haven't seen it:

Huxley vs. Orwell

Personally, I think Huxley's vision seems much closer to the truth of what became. Orwell's was more of a fascist/communist vision. Huxley wrote about the west, and Orwell the east; Western Capitalism, Eastern Communism. Of course the western way won out, and it's virus spread around the world. East defeated. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

i mentioned this in another thread, how people and the savages were together seems very aspie as i mean in the wrong planet sense of the behaviors and perceptions

A great observation, Moog. It makes me wonder if a reader in Communist China would feel that Orwell is "winning". Westernally-speaking it seems so obviously Huxley, but I need to let go of my Democro-centric view of the globe to comment on "society" on a global basis.

society is a completely reletive term, meaning millions of different things for different people. taking the compairisons from capitalism vs communist much like the democraps and the republicants here. everyone thinks their version of the world is the best and you cant change their minds to save your life.

brave new world has that sort of feeling that the people were just on the other side of the new civil war thats gonna happen here. and finally picked just one idea to run the world and stuck with it, aside from the interpersonal conflicts everything ran rather smoothly.

there are days when i wish i were alpha and beta, but there are others where delta doesnt seem bad. i wish i had days where all i worried about was wake up, goto work, come home, goto sleep.

I read it when I was 11, and used to describe myself as ''very pneumatic! mmm yes, very pneumatic!" I took seriously the advice that 'a gramme was better than a damn" and dosed as often as I could find something to take me out of the reality of my world. I 'got' the class-ism and racism of the Alphas, Betas Gammas and Deltas and of course, the Epsilons and really thought the 'savages' were sorta. . savage.

But the real eye openers were from The Director:


and the real scorcher

(Mustapha Mond is the World Director)



I did like all the tossing away of the absurdities of being 'human' like it is some sort of sacred thing, some ultimate gift, though. I guess it influenced my life a lot more than I though.

Merle

I don't think China is really very communist any more. Hard to say what their view of things would be like. I'd be very interested to know. I'd be very surprised if they were allowed to read books like BNW and 1984. I wonder what the Chinese equivalents are that we aren't allowed to read?

Thanks for picking up my punctuation error

Ha ha ha, tou~che. Me too.




You know something, I really hate this about myself...

I think I'm one of the few people who doesn't mind having my mistakes pointed out to me.

Love that image!

I like this book, but I prefer 1984.