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MonstressTiamat
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15 Sep 2008, 5:58 am

Just wondering if anyone considers themself a Goth or is into Dark Alturnative culture/music?
My dark preoccupations began as a child. I intended to dye my fair hair black as soon as I was old enough and wear velvet; in the 70's before there was a Goth scene. I would parade around in my magician cape and hat which I had made myself or run around wearing my vampire teeth. I loved monsters and considered humans bad. I was fascinated as a child by military bands, machine noises and Kraftwerk which was to lead to an interest in Industrial music as an adult. I am in my 30's and I am still heavily into the Gothic subculture(although I still find being part of a subculture socially challenging). I have no intentions of growing up.

My psychologist told me that a lot of her Aspie clients wear mainly black. Secondly several Goths in my local scene have told me they have Aspergers Syndrome and thought I had it too. Do you think 'Gothickness" could be genetic and/or Aspie trait?

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15 Sep 2008, 6:17 am

I'm not a goth. I'm an intellectual. Often, our kind is twice as death-obsessed as goth people; have you ever heard of Kierkegaard? I like to study diseases (to examine natural evil) and the Holocaust (to examine moral evil).

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15 Sep 2008, 7:44 am

Aspie goths, IMO, are a product of hard, dark, painful lives. That sort of life and AS often goes hand-in-hand.

I personally have a deep appreciation for darker music and other forms of art. I don't dress in traditional goth clothes, but my personality matches that mentality.

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15 Sep 2008, 9:50 am

I listen to death and black metal (I do listen to other genres though), dress all or mostly in black, I have a massive black trenchcoat that I occasionally wear and a Top Hat fashioned after the one The Hitcher wears in The Mighty Boosh. I also have a Darth Vader Helmet. I would consider myself more of a Metalhead than a Goth though.


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15 Sep 2008, 10:22 am

I have been actively part of the goth subculture for about 5 or 6 years now and continue to do so. I do wear black clothing and eyeliner all the time, but this is just because I like it and not because I desperately look for the goth tag. I do consider myself a goth, but this depends actually on the situation or definition. I feel very closely connected to the spirit of the original old school gothness and that is why I do consider myself gothic. But the modern goths, the younger goths and more recent gothic artists, dont do it to me and IMO have little in common with the values gothic was really about. Some teens call themselves goth without even realising what gothic really used to be. The subculture is just so corrupted. I do consider myself goth, although old school goth, interacting mainly to solely with older goths (aged 30 and well above) and avoiding venues where young goths tend to gather as I feel very little connection to the youngsters that call themselves goth.

As for appearance: I do prefer black clothing and I do wear make up almost all the time. But this is purely as I like that, not trying to be tagged goth. If I were desperate to be tagged gothic, then I would adopt the gothic fashion entirely. My clothing may be black but it is quite normal trousers and shirts so still different from the typical goth fashion. Apart from my fanatic use of make-up I doubt one would say I am dressed in a typically goth way.

So cutting a long story short: I consider myself goth and am active in the subculture, although mainly interacting with older goths and avoiding venues orientated at the younger self-proclaimed goths. Call me an old school goth with a rather negative view on younger (teenage) goths.


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15 Sep 2008, 10:48 am

MonstressTiamat wrote:
Just wondering if anyone considers themself a Goth or is into Dark Alturnative culture/music?
My dark preoccupations began as a child. I intended to dye my fair hair black as soon as I was old enough and wear velvet; in the 70's before there was a Goth scene. I would parade around in my magician cape and hat which I had made myself or run around wearing my vampire teeth. I loved monsters and considered humans bad. I was fascinated as a child by military bands, machine noises and Kraftwerk which was to lead to an interest in Industrial music as an adult. I am in my 30's and I am still heavily into the Gothic subculture(although I still find being part of a subculture socially challenging). I have no intentions of growing up.

My psychologist told me that a lot of her Aspie clients wear mainly black. Secondly several Goths in my local scene have told me they have Aspergers Syndrome and thought I had it too. Do you think 'Gothickness" could be genetic and/or Aspie trait?

Grrrr!
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I like some of the music, but the lifestyle seems a little silly, I think its the puffy shirts, and the capes, but if
people want to walk around pretending their Lestat who am I to judge them, some days I need a good laugh.



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15 Sep 2008, 10:53 am

I like the Goth look. It would be fun to dress like Edgar Alan Poe just to see other people's reactions. But I'm 50+ years old. Who wouldn't think that a Geezer Goth is a little more off plumb than merely 'Eccentric'?



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15 Sep 2008, 11:25 am

I've thought about going goth before. I do enjoy vampires, after all, and I had a couple of goth friends back in junior high. But my mom told me "it's not in [my] personality" to be goth. That's true; I actually think I would fit in better with the Candy Kid Raver subculture, considering my love for cheerful/childish clothing and dance music.



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15 Sep 2008, 11:27 am

Fnord wrote:
I like the Goth look. It would be fun to dress like Edgar Alan Poe just to see other people's reactions. But I'm 50+ years old. Who wouldn't think that a Geezer Goth is a little more off plumb than merely 'Eccentric'?

I got this image of a grandpa simpson vampire



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15 Sep 2008, 11:34 am

spudnik wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I like the Goth look. It would be fun to dress like Edgar Alan Poe just to see other people's reactions. But I'm 50+ years old. Who wouldn't think that a Geezer Goth is a little more off plumb than merely 'Eccentric'?

I got this image of a grandpa simpson vampire

Ditch the cape, and you're there.



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15 Sep 2008, 11:34 am

I tend to just dress just in jeans and a t-shirt, I kinda like the goth look, specifically some of the jewellery and the designs on the printed shirts/t-shirts but i dont really like the retro kinda 18th century looks, leather or tight clothes. i also like colourful clothes aswell *shrugs*

Fnord wrote:
I like the Goth look. It would be fun to dress like Edgar Alan Poe just to see other people's reactions. But I'm 50+ years old. Who wouldn't think that a Geezer Goth is a little more off plumb than merely 'Eccentric'?


erm, not to be rude, but geezer literally means "manly man" not old man which is what im guessing you thought it meant.



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15 Sep 2008, 11:40 am

According the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

Main Entry: gee·zer
Pronunciation: \ˈgē-zər\
Function: noun
Etymology: probably alteration of Scots guiser one in disguise
Date: 1885
: a queer, odd, or eccentric person —used especially of elderly men



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15 Sep 2008, 11:45 am

I know some gothic rock and dark wave music but not that much really, just a few bands. Bauhaus, Black Tape for a Blue Girl and Lycia have really impressed me at one stage or another.



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15 Sep 2008, 11:59 am

I like to say that I was born Goth, but then I chose to seek out other types of music. I've always been obsessed with death, unpopular animals (bats, rats, spiders, snakes, etc.), the colors black and dark red. I find authors like Poe and Lovecraft to be very comforting to read. When I don't have a schedule, I become nocturnal. I grew up across the street from a cemetery and have always enjoyed spending time in places of the dead.

Despite all of this, I've never really gotten into the Goth culture. I've had some friends who were into it, but I don't like going to Goth clubs or anything like that. I don't like much of the music. I'm more of a rock and roll person - I like the guitar, bass, real drums set-up. A lot of Goths like music made with computers, fancy keyboards, drum machines, etc., and a lot of the music is too slow for me.

I like some death rock and horror rock, but what I like best is music in un-Goth-related genres that happens to be especially morbid.



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15 Sep 2008, 1:08 pm

Fnord wrote:
According the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

Main Entry: gee·zer
Pronunciation: \ˈgē-zər\
Function: noun
Etymology: probably alteration of Scots guiser one in disguise
Date: 1885
: a queer, odd, or eccentric person —used especially of elderly men


Nope, its London slang for man. the word guiser is sottish and basically means either someone in a disguise or a very untrustworthy person. the geezer variant is a well know London variant.

From London Slang Site

geezer - a very common term for a man. There are many disproved origins of the word. Used respectfully and for a person of unknown name, i.e.. "some geezer" or to say that someone is a bit of a laddish rogue "he's a bit of a geezer". Also 'dodgy geezer' can be used to describe a man of bad character.

Never have i heard anyone use it to mean specifically old man in any part of Britain though. *shrugs*



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15 Sep 2008, 1:09 pm

Fnord wrote:
spudnik wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I like the Goth look. It would be fun to dress like Edgar Alan Poe just to see other people's reactions. But I'm 50+ years old. Who wouldn't think that a Geezer Goth is a little more off plumb than merely 'Eccentric'?

I got this image of a grandpa simpson vampire

Ditch the cape, and you're there.



I've just got this image of The Hitcher from The Mighty Boosh... *eels up inside ya*

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