African-American Music is Dangerous According to Dutch Study

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http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... l.pdf+html

http://x1075lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/ ... linquency/



Thankfully some people have brains:

http://jezebel.com/5977245/science-deli ... e-in-music

Oh, really ... ...

What next, "Guns Don't Kill People; Rap Kills People"?

It's mindless rubbish, but it's not dangerous. People are dangerous. Not stupid, infantile music.

All I can do is facepalm. Haven't heard about this on the radio yet, I'm kinda hoping they're going to ignore this. This is just... dumb.

Seems like journalists are confusing correlation and causation here. This is what the researchers had to say about it:

We didn't expect this result (none of them believed that music preference had anything to do with delinquency) and were surprised ourselves. But once again: listening to death metal, hip hop or techno house doesn't make you a criminal, nor does it cause criminal behaviour. A *possible* explanation is that *some* of these kids get involved with a group of friends that are already involved in minor delinquency and are influenced by them. That means it's not the music causing the delinquency, but a social factor.

Just a thought -

How would those idiots explain criminality committed by people who are deaf?

Are all the children in the sample of exactly the same socio-economic class, have the same education, the same parental structure and approach?


Or are they just a bunch of junior doctors/students that were trying to complete a poster presentation as part of their CPD and they got bored after the secretary pointed out how crap their science was?

Here is a fresh idea!

When we show Elvis on TV -lets only show him from the waist up- to hide his pelvis moves!

That will eliminate teen pregency and juvenile deliquency!



What makes it so dumb is that the guardians of morality have been telling us the sky is falling since the Viennese Waltzes came out in the 1840's ( the couples are so close -scandalous!).

Looks like they're just desperately searching for reasons to make the government ban all the music that isn't played on the charts.

Well, this is interesting.

Meh, I don't listen to these types of studies. It's all horse rubbish to me. What, if I listen to "Express Yourself", I'm more likely to murder someone? Wow.

How about expanding on that with the notion that those groups of friends may belong to subcultures that listen to music genres as part of their subculture?

A problem I have with the study as described in the PDF, is the arbitrary grouping of music genres into 5 subtypes:



Aside from how eclectic the 'African-American' and rock subtypes are in the range of genres they each cover (you'll listen to blues if you listen to reggae?), there is a rather obvious implication of social class in the 'highbrow music' subcategory. You'll be less likely to have immediate EXPOSURE to Chopin or Bach if you're an 8-year-old kid in a poor household; but there's no telling whether or not you'll end up loving it if you eventually come across it.

Aside from that, I'm not sure what singer-songwriters are doing in a 'highbrow' category, since these days, anyone who can pick up a guitar and rhyme 'true' with 'blue', calls themselves a singer-songwriter.

Did anyone care to examine delinquency among kids who don't listen to rock, rap, or whatever?
Could it be.... teenagers just behave badly?!?!?!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I listened to heavy metal when I was a teen,I behaved badly but that was me,not the music.

Wonder what the influence of Gil Scott Heron is?Omg,you might get interested in civil rights

I think there is probably a decent case that music which glamorises certain behaviour might cause people to engage in that behaviour.

Remember, a lot of gangsta rap isn't written as fiction. You are supposed to believe that the rapper really is a cool materialistic guy who shoots people, and you are supposed to admire him for it.

But that's to do with the content of the lyrics, not to do with the genre. There is a lot of "gangsta" rap which is meant to be fictional and absurd, and there is a lot of rap which has nothing to do with an antisocial lifestyle.

So hoodilums listen to rocknroll!

The study doesnt address the obvious question:
Does listening to rocknoll cause you to become a hoodilum?
Or does being a hoodilum cause you to listen to rocknroll?

Some homie need to pop a cap in his black ass, yo'.

Well, either you're closing your eyes
To a situation you do not wish to acknowledge
Or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated
By the presence of rap and hiphop in your community.

Mothers of River City!
Heed the warning before it's too late!
Watch for the tell-tale sign of corruption!
The moment your son leaves the house,
Does he rebuckle his knickerbockers below the knee?
Is there a nicotine stain on his index finger?
A dime novel hidden in the corn crib?
Is he starting to memorize jokes? from Capt.
Billy's Whiz Bang?!
Are certain words creeping into his conversation?
Words like 'swell?"
And 'so's your old man?"
Well, if so my friends,
We've surely got trouble!
Right here in River City!
Remember the Maine, Plymouth Rock and the Golden Rule!
Oh, we've got trouble.
We're in terrible, terrible trouble.
That music with the odd off-beat is the devil's tool!
Oh yes we got trouble, trouble, trouble!
With a "T!" That rhymes with "B!"
And that stands for Black Music Rules!