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17 Jul 2014, 1:33 pm

What's the most recent rock band that you consider to be a classic act? I think it might be Linkin Park, though they are bit more ambiguous, but Nirvana would definitely apply.


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17 Jul 2014, 2:47 pm

Most recent ones with an oeuvre that can consider themselves classics? Going only by the most well-known ones, I would throw Kings Of Leon in there. In line with your Nirvana suggestion, I'd also include Foo Fighters. Queens Of The Stone Age is definitely up there in my book.
There are others, but these three spring to my mind the quickest.


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17 Jul 2014, 3:03 pm

As I have understood it to be for decades, "oldies" rock would be 1950s and 1960s, but "classic rock" is 1960s and 1970s. I wouldn't even include the big hair bands of the 1980s as classic rock, much less Nirvana or any other bands since that time. Of course the definitions of terms can change over time, but so far as I know any band that wasn't famous by the end of the 1970s would not be called "classic rock."

For curiosity, I googled it.

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Typically, classic rock stations play rock songs from the mid-1960s through the 1980s. Some of the songs overlap with those played on oldies stations, but classic rock also focuses on bands and artists that are less radio friendly and therefore are usually not played on oldies stations. Classic rock stations have historically been hesitant to add 1990s rock such as alternative rock and grunge to their playlists, due in part to the drastic difference in style,


According to this currently-accepted definition then Nirvana would definitely NOT be considered "classic rock." I don't think it is either, as they say mainly because of the difference in style regardlless of the difference in decades. But if enough people call Nirvana classic rock, sooner or later the definition will expand. Heck, Nirvana may become the defining band for what is called Classic Rock sometime in the future. They will probably have to come up with a new name then for the rock styles of the 1960s and 1970s.


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17 Jul 2014, 3:31 pm

I wouldn't even call rock music of the 60s and 70s a uniform genre; it extended from bluesrock to hardrock, and from glam to punk to early metal.

Grunge and prog left their influences on rock music, sure, but that didn't prevent a great number of bands to base themselves more on the hardrock tropes that were established by bands like Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin in the late 60s and early 70s, or take it even closer to the roots of rock 'n' roll. Plenty of 'proper' rock music still making the rounds. The absence of a strong presence of rock music in the current music charts is what contributes to rock bands either trying something completely out of left field, or going back to more 'classic' forms.


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17 Jul 2014, 11:58 pm

25 years is required for cars to be considered vintage so maybe that is a good benchmark for classic rock? The stupid Rock and roll hall of fame also uses 25 years since the first release as their benchmark. I sort of agree with the bicycling guitarist here though, alternative music then is still alternative now although the 80s metal bands have begun to make major headway into the classic rock playlists. I also question the classic rock name being given to bands that are still actively recording therefore making them a current band in whatever genre they work within. For what its worth Toronto's Q107 classic rock station regularly plays pearl Jam and the Foo Fighters to name a couple so apparently about 15 years is the cut off. I think LP, KOL and any other 2000s band has some more waiting to do.



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18 Jul 2014, 1:03 am

Ganondox wrote:
What's the most recent rock band that you consider to be a classic act? I think it might be Linkin Park, though they are bit more ambiguous, but Nirvana would definitely apply.


This makes me feel old :D

I think it might be a bit early for Linkin Park to be called classic rock, but Nirvana is quickly encroaching on 'classic' territory.


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20 Jul 2014, 10:36 pm

TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
As I have understood it to be for decades, "oldies" rock would be 1950s and 1960s, but "classic rock" is 1960s and 1970s. I wouldn't even include the big hair bands of the 1980s as classic rock, much less Nirvana or any other bands since that time. Of course the definitions of terms can change over time, but so far as I know any band that wasn't famous by the end of the 1970s would not be called "classic rock."

For curiosity, I googled it.
Wikipedia wrote:
Typically, classic rock stations play rock songs from the mid-1960s through the 1980s. Some of the songs overlap with those played on oldies stations, but classic rock also focuses on bands and artists that are less radio friendly and therefore are usually not played on oldies stations. Classic rock stations have historically been hesitant to add 1990s rock such as alternative rock and grunge to their playlists, due in part to the drastic difference in style,


According to this currently-accepted definition then Nirvana would definitely NOT be considered "classic rock." I don't think it is either, as they say mainly because of the difference in style regardlless of the difference in decades. But if enough people call Nirvana classic rock, sooner or later the definition will expand. Heck, Nirvana may become the defining band for what is called Classic Rock sometime in the future. They will probably have to come up with a new name then for the rock styles of the 1960s and 1970s.


I'm not referring to classic rock, I'm referring to rock bands. The style does not matter, lasting acclaim does. While you aren't going to find them on a classic rock station, they are definately considered a classic today. They are a band everyone knows despite not releasing anything in forever.


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