gekitsu wrote:
yupa: if you like :wunpscut:, you could like feindflug as well.
as for industrial being applied to neofolk: i wouldnt say its completely beyond sense, as neofolk stems from industrial and its surrounding area to a large degree.
but of course you are right: neofolk and industrial are quite different enough to not confuse them.
as far as i see it, one could talk about classic industrial (neubauten, brighter death now, genocide organ,...), some kind of electro-industrial as a subgenre of electronic music with a machinesque and harsh sound (wumpscut and the like) and an almost genuinely american definition of industrial as a subgenre of rock music: nin, some manson, rob zombie (i mean... wtf?) and so on.
very confusing... and all because people seem to be unable to care for precise speech.
Have you heard of power electronics and noise? I may say, they came from industrial and added that powerful sound and chaos. Masonna, Merzbow, IRM and related. They're not EBM, because no one could dance to this music. Most of them don't have rhythm (except rhythmic noise). I think, power electronics is pure HATE, despise of mass media and consumer society.
As for me, I listen to all kinds of industrial music : martial industrial, dark ambient, neofolk, EBM, industrial rock/metal, futurepop, aggrotech...
You say that neofolk can't be called industrial. I'd like to expostulate. Neofolk belongs to industrial culture not by his sounds, but by thoughts and attittude. It doesn't need to be electronic. On wikipedia.org is a big article about industrial and his genres, I think it perfectly reflects the term of 'industrial'.
There are also some leading bands in industrial : Deutsch Nepal, COIL, Throbbing Gristle(they have produced a new album this year).
Everything that are launched in these times, are post-industrial. The styles dark ambient, martial and neofolk are fundamental in this culture.