Disco is cool...but I was always taught it was lame as a kid

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05 Jan 2021, 4:51 am

Well like it's really catchy music that makes you want to dance a little...why is that bad? I don't get it it seems like cool music to me...so I don't understand hearing about people back in the day who don't like it. I mean IDk what is wrong with it? Just sounds like fun music you can move around to, to me whenever I listen to disco...so yeah IDK why it was deemed such a terrible form of music in past days, to me it just sounds like catchy fun stuff to listen to.

So yeah I don't see the problem.


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05 Jan 2021, 5:16 am

Disco sucks was the attitude of needledick rock journalists. Look up the term rockism.


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05 Jan 2021, 5:33 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Disco sucks was the attitude of needledick rock journalists. Look up the term rockism.



Looked it up a it on wikipedia but still don't quite get it, but sounds weird like a bunch of music snobs just being snobs.And all they are accomplishing is listening to a lesser variety of music than I do, I listen to all kinds of music and pick and choose what things I like seems like some of those kind of people do more rejecting of music than listening to it. Like yes it turns out there is more music than just rock and all of that is not bad. LIke some people might say.

Also though I am a metalhead, like I love metal that is why I was so sad about Alexi...but at the same time there are so many other kinds of music to enjoy than just metal. I mean I really liked David Bowie, and I lik elton john kind of but my moms boyfriend plays so much of him even when I still lived there that and the beatles that for a while I couldn't enjoy either just because I got burnt out on my moms boyfriend playing them all the time, cause its like all he listens to is stuff he already heard and I like to hear new stuff. LIke that is how I found that disco music is actually pretty cool, cause I just popped some on and thought it sounded awesome...then of course I couldn't understand why I always heard it was sh***y. But now listening to some ont spotify I just feel I missed out by not hearing more of it earlier on.


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05 Jan 2021, 5:23 pm

I was in college at the time. Was a rockfan, and bit of a stoner. So disco was uncool in my set. But I secretly kinda liked it. A girl at a party even showed me how to do the Hustle. A dance in which you get to occasionally hold your partner. What a concept!

Many years later I became a party DJ. The mainstay of what you play is either disco, or music that evolved from disco since 1980 (rap, techno, house, EDM, etc).

So yes ...you can be a fan of classic rock, and also be a fan of disco (and funk, and R+B, of the disco era).

I support your right to like disco.

But the origin of discophobia? At the time folks gripped about the "mechanical beat" of the music. But now all pop has mechanical beats, andis auto tuned, so you cant make that complaint anymore.

Disco was associated with two disliked groups:Blacks, and gays. That may have been part of it. Another theory is that the seventies were the height of arena rock. Rock stars got to be worshipped. Suddenly disco came along, and you the fan yourself got to be the star on the night club dancefloor. And the gods of rock didnt like the competition.



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06 Jan 2021, 4:03 am

There was a time when Metal was seen as creepy and 'unholy' music.

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06 Jan 2021, 4:10 am

Rexi wrote:
There was a time when Metal was seen as creepy and 'unholy' music.


Indeed, but even hair metal was macho enough to get approval from the crowd that loved to s**t on disco.

Personally I grew up exposed to the disco sucks attitude via my dad but as an adult I like eurobeat (which grew out of Italian disco/hi NRG) and he's since admitted being a big fan of Saturday Night Fever despite not otherwise listening to that sorta music.

Meh, it's kind of a childish thing. Being less of a needledick is always a good thing.


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06 Jan 2021, 4:26 am

Side question if anyone knows:

What did they call DISCO BALLS before disco? You know, those glittery orbs on the ceiling above the center of the dance floor. They usually call them Disco Balls now, but I've seen them in old movies from the 1930s when a big band was playing a dance hall, long before the Disco era. What were they called back then?



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06 Jan 2021, 8:22 pm

These were reasons for the angry sometimes violent anti disco backlash.

Racism and Homophobia - The genre came from those communities

Over saturation. It was everywhere not only the singles charts but commercials, there were disco barbies, disco theme songs an Ethal Merman disco album. With such demand you got bad music sometimes nothing more then the pounding beat.

Association with elitism bands named Chic and Evelyn “Champaign” King. Studio 54 and infamous doorman and all the publicity surrounding celebrities that went there to be seen. The idea was to keep rabble like you with your Led Zeppelin t-shirt out.

Association with mindless hedonism again think Studio 54.

The concept of music driven by DJ’s not live bands often dominated by synths was brand new. It was felt to be “plastic”.

Racism, Homophobia, elitism sound familiar?
And there were conspiracy theories back then. The “Disco Infestation” was a government or corporate plot to brainwash people to be mindless drones.







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06 Jan 2021, 8:29 pm

Cool people hate fun, that's why.

It's hard to be nonchelant around disco.

Disco makes me smile.


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06 Jan 2021, 8:31 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Side question if anyone knows:

What did they call DISCO BALLS before disco? You know, those glittery orbs on the ceiling above the center of the dance floor. They usually call them Disco Balls now, but I've seen them in old movies from the 1930s when a big band was playing a dance hall, long before the Disco era. What were they called back then?


Mirror balls or glitter balls.


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06 Jan 2021, 8:33 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Side question if anyone knows:

What did they call DISCO BALLS before disco? You know, those glittery orbs on the ceiling above the center of the dance floor. They usually call them Disco Balls now, but I've seen them in old movies from the 1930s when a big band was playing a dance hall, long before the Disco era. What were they called back then?

Yeah the term "glitter ball" was quite common, but I don't know how far back it goes. Mirror ball sounds like it might have been the earlier name.



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07 Jan 2021, 1:22 am

A Fifties musician who didnt think much of the new wave of folk musicians of that time.




And here are a Sixties' band of Folk musicians who...didnt think much of rocknroll




And here is a Seventies rock musician who didnt think much of disco




And here is an Eighties disco musician who didnt think much of rap music.



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07 Jan 2021, 7:39 am

Cool is in the eye of the beholder, you think it's cool so it is. The thing that really is lame is people being made to feel bad for what they like. However, I can totally understand people not liking disco because to me it just sounds irritating and doesn't make me want to dance at all. I can also understand people being fed up if music they don't like is being played all the time and/or replacing things they do like. That's no excuse to try and stop you enjoying it though.


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08 Jan 2021, 6:00 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Mirror balls or glitter balls.

Redd_Kross wrote:
Yeah the term "glitter ball" was quite common, but I don't know how far back it goes. Mirror ball sounds like it might have been the earlier name.

@funeralxempire, @Redd_Kross:

Thanks, guys! Makes perfect sense. Interesting to note that the newer "disco ball" has become the more common/recognizable name.



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09 Jan 2021, 10:33 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
These were reasons for the angry sometimes violent anti disco backlash.

Racism and Homophobia - The genre came from those communities

Over saturation. It was everywhere not only the singles charts but commercials, there were disco barbies, disco theme songs an Ethal Merman disco album. With such demand you got bad music sometimes nothing more then the pounding beat.

Association with elitism bands named Chic and Evelyn “Champaign” King. Studio 54 and infamous doorman and all the publicity surrounding celebrities that went there to be seen. The idea was to keep rabble like you with your Led Zeppelin t-shirt out.

Association with mindless hedonism again think Studio 54.

The concept of music driven by DJ’s not live bands often dominated by synths was brand new. It was felt to be “plastic”.

Racism, Homophobia, elitism sound familiar?
And there were conspiracy theories back then. The “Disco Infestation” was a government or corporate plot to brainwash people to be mindless drones.







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Nice bunch, squealing from excitedness, where are the letters!

First reminds me of this in its honesty


'Disco boy! They're closing the bar, and she's
Leaving with your friend'

Reminds me of a line, 'She came with you then left with me, I went up a point, let's call it even'


Let's not forget the poodle bites. Lets nut, let's nut.


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09 Jan 2021, 10:59 am

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Mirror balls or glitter balls.

Redd_Kross wrote:
Yeah the term "glitter ball" was quite common, but I don't know how far back it goes. Mirror ball sounds like it might have been the earlier name.

@funeralxempire, @Redd_Kross:

Thanks, guys! Makes perfect sense. Interesting to note that the newer "disco ball" has become the more common/recognizable name.


They were a thing in dancehalls as far back as the big band swing era in the thirties.

Sarah McLaughlin released an album called "Mirror ball" in the 90's ( more than a decade after the end of the disco era) with one of them on the cover.