Had a couple things published in a friend's e-zine.

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09 May 2023, 1:57 pm

Have had a couple things published in a writer friend's new literary e-zine.

https://manicsylph.com/lit-ezine-vol-1- ... -being-me/

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https://manicsylph.com/lit-ezine-vol-2- ... p-renewed/


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09 May 2023, 8:09 pm

Interesting reads.  Well-written and understated.  I like that.

However, I have not quite grasped the concept of "flash fiction".  Would you please enlighten me?

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10 May 2023, 1:03 am

Hey there, thanks!

Fnord wrote:
However, I have not quite grasped the concept of "flash fiction".  Would you please enlighten me?


That's okay, I too had to ask what it means. Was writing it without knowing there even was a name for it.
Flash fiction is basically the short story form shortened further.

Turns out there are subcategories of flash fiction.
At the moment, 01am, don't recall what they are, only that they are.

A long read about the history of the short format,
https://theshortstory.co.uk/do-it-in-a- ... ra-arnold/

Here's a bit from it,
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The internet and social media have created opportunities for flash to become accessible, but although its current popularity is new, the form is not. It can be found in oral traditions, parables, the myths in the Iliad and Odyssey, Aesop’s fables, the fables of the Middle East, and fairytales. Petronius wrote short-short stories in ancient Rome. Marie de France wrote them in medieval times. The form became established in the nineteenth century through such writers as Balzac and De Maupassant in France, Chekov in Russia and Walt Whitman, Ambrose Bierce and Kate Chopin in the USA. Major practitioners of the twentieth century were Franz Kafka in Prague, O. Henry in the USA, Jorge Luis Borges and Julio Cortázar in Argentina, Robert Walser in Switzerland, Dino Buzzati and Italo Calvino in Italy, Isak Dinesen in Denmark and Yasumari Kawabata in Japan who was famous for his ‘palm-of-the-hand’ stories. By the 1920s the form was referred to as the short-short story and was associated with Cosmopolitan magazine. Ernest Hemingway, known best for his novels of heroism and adventure such as For whom the Bell Tolls, wrote 18 pieces of very short fiction that were included in his short story collection In Our Time. The six-word flash, ‘For sale, baby shoes never worn’ is attributed to him, allegedly written as a dare to write a complete story in as few words as possible. In the 1930s, short-shorts were collected in anthologies such as The American short story. Somerset Maugham was a practitioner with his Cosmopolitans: Very short stories. Others have included Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury and Kurt Vonnegut. In 1947, the editors of Writers try short shorts, Mildred I. Reid and Delmar E. Bordeaux, traced the origin of the modern short-short to Collier’s Weekly, an American popular magazine that in 1925 claimed to have invented it.


:arrow: Note the last line of this,

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In the introduction to his 1983 anthology, Sudden Fiction, Robert Shapard described the difficulty the editorial team had in agreeing on a title. Because almost no literary criticism existed to properly name the form, he asked the writers to do so, stating: “the form can only be established when its proper name is chosen. We create our world through language, through naming.” Writer Robert Kelly used the term sudden fiction because the stories “are all suddenly – just there”. Thus, the name of the anthology came into being. James Thomas titled his 1992 anthology, Flash Fiction: Seventy two very short stories. He stated that the editors’ definition of flash fiction was a story that would fit on two facing pages of a literary magazine.


And speaking of literary magazines,
a sample,
(note that I have read none of those, just found it while looking for something to offer as a sample)
https://www.newyorker.com/books/flash-fiction


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10 May 2023, 6:13 am

Flash Fiction: A story that would fit on two facing pages of a literary magazine.

What font and size?  How many words?

Not trying to nit-pick; just trying to nail down your editor's definition before I submit something too big or too small.

Thanx!


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10 May 2023, 10:27 am

Fnord wrote:
What font and size?  How many words?
Not trying to nit-pick; just trying to nail down your editor's definition before I submit something too big or too small.


From what I've seen/heard that varies with the specific publication and specific editor; each publication will need to be contacted directly.

The article is not from an editor I've worked with.

My internet friend Mona Soorma whose publication my articles are in was already familiar with my work.
At this point, perhaps largely thanks to ME/CFS and neurological autoimmune disease, both known to cause 'brain fog', I don't remember how deeply we talked about formatting.

What I do remember is that it is common for book company editors to want submissions in Times New Roman font.
Size, I'm not sure, probably 10 or 12 point.

Specific length probably likewise varies with editor, depending on how their specific publication is formatted and presented.
But there is an inclination to say that 1500 words or less is typical for flash fiction.

Which brings to mind that in our little county seat farm burg's creative writers group we've seen that different writing programs vary slightly in how they count words.
Can remember one time Liz put the same 2000 to 2500 word text in to 3 different programs and they gave her word counts different by up to 15 words.

Alright, it's 10:30am here and I gotta get this defective body to function enough to make a trip to the laundromat before the afternoon heat, so that's all I'm gonna say for now.


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10 May 2023, 1:53 pm

Oh, I like them so much! Thank you for posting them here.


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10 May 2023, 8:15 pm

blazingstar wrote:
Oh, I like them so much! Thank you for posting them here.

Hey there; thanks, do appreciate that!


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24 May 2023, 5:43 pm

I liked them, especially the first one.


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24 May 2023, 6:04 pm

Hey, thanks!


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26 May 2023, 6:18 pm

Fnord wrote:
I have not quite grasped the concept of "flash fiction".  Would you please enlighten me?

Thank you.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F0w97e ... -atir/view


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