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30 Oct 2024, 3:57 pm

Hi:
I was wondering how many people on here enjoy disco?

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30 Oct 2024, 4:34 pm

It's certainly not my favourite style, but I can appreciate it's influence on a lot of music I enjoy.

I enjoy some Hi-NRG and some new wave, early house and eurodance, along with some eurobeat. Those are all examples of styles that emerged as disco started to fragment into newer sub-genres.

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30 Oct 2024, 5:14 pm

Of course not...I lived through it.
That's why punk was invented.

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30 Oct 2024, 5:22 pm

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Of course not...I lived through it.
That's why punk was invented.

Punk was invented before disco and was more of a reaction against rock getting boring and pretentious than a reaction to anything outside of rock.

Group like Death and MC5 had singles before disco had emerged.

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30 Oct 2024, 5:59 pm

Death and MC5.. you're too funny
Next you'll tell me Cream was punk

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30 Oct 2024, 6:03 pm

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Death and MC5.. you're too funny
Next you'll tell me Cream was punk

Cream aren't even garage rock, meanwhile protopunk is roughly synonymous with garage rock.

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30 Oct 2024, 6:19 pm

Protopunk is late 60s
My mother was listening to disco just after I was born (61), but you probably wouldn't count french disco as such.

Not that I count protopunk as punk...the term is obviously coined afterwards.

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30 Oct 2024, 7:24 pm

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Your mom could not possibly have been "listening to disco in 1961" because disco didnt exist until the mid-seventies.

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30 Oct 2024, 9:07 pm

SMH
Americans.
"Disco" comes from the french "Discothèque" which kind of arrived as I was born,
The idea might not have percolated to the US for several years, and the musical style changed a lot during the move. Either way, even US disco was established in the late 60s whereas TRUE punk is an early 70s phenomenon.

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Disco is a genre of dance music and a subculture that emerged in the late 1960s from the United States' urban nightlife scene. Its sound is typified by four-on-the-floor beats, syncopated basslines, string sections, brass and horns, electric piano, synthesizers, and electric rhythm guitars.
Discothèques as a venue were mostly a French invention, imported to the United States with the opening of Le Club, a members-only restaurant and nightclub located at 416 East 55th Street in Manhattan, by French expatriate Olivier Coquelin, on New Year's Eve 1960.[5] [/quote]

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30 Oct 2024, 9:31 pm

I love the Nightlife! I love to Boogie!

Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive", The Village People...so many fun, wonderful memories. And a lot of rockers had great disco-esque songs. Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", Rolling Stones "Miss You"...

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30 Oct 2024, 10:04 pm

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The word "discotheque" in both france and the US meant "a night club were a dj spins records" in the Sixties. Usually twist music of the time. The French may have shortened the word to "disco" back then. But not Americans. The "four on the floor" music you correctly descibe what we are calling "disco" here did not become codified into a thing until 1973.

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30 Oct 2024, 11:23 pm

The English abbreviated it.
Codified.... By whom?

Because I refuse to cede arbitration of...well...any taste whatsoever, to a country who can front the orange cockwomble as "The leader of the free world."
The country who purloined the word "grunge" and changed the meaning.
(It was originally defined in Australia in the late 70s as "music to open your veins to" in the style of Nick Cave. I know because I was there... We were outraged that it was stolen by Seattle.)
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31 Oct 2024, 1:41 pm

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Not all music played in a discothèque is disco, even if that's the source of the genre name.

What's the earliest disco single, by your definition? I can't think of a genuine example of the genre before 1971 or so.

Meanwhile the Stooges already had an LP out in 1969. ? and the Mysterians had a single that was described as punk as early as 1966.

I think punk had solidified into an identifiable sound before disco did, although both genres were hinted at long before they were fully formed.

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31 Oct 2024, 2:09 pm

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Carbonhalo wrote:

Of course not...I lived through it.
That's why punk was invented.

Punk was a reaction against "boring and pretentious" Progressive Rock.

Disco was a reaction against a number of elements of Rock Music of the time. Rock music had moved from clubs to arenas and stadiums. Progressive Rock and Heavy Metal was meant to be listened to not danced to like earlier rock and roll music. At this time rock music was catering to white, suburban, teenage and young adult straight males. People from the "othered" demographics created the scene, the sound and the fanbase.

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31 Oct 2024, 2:14 pm

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Alice Cooper and New York Dolls from the early 1970s have been described as protopunk.

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31 Oct 2024, 3:05 pm

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The country who purloined the word "grunge" and changed the meaning.
(It was originally defined in Australia in the late 70s as "music to open your veins to" in the style of Nick Cave. I know because I was there... We were outraged that it was stolen by Seattle.)

It seems coincidental because it's unlikely Nick Cave was a big influence on a bunch of Melvins rip-off bands.

American grunge seems pretty thoroughly rooted in earlier styles from the American underground, basically sludge mixed with 80s era post-hardcore and Midwestern indie rock (think Husker Du), the big bands added some classic rock influence to that formula.

A similar thing happened with the term crusty. In some places it refers to fans of crust punk, in other places it refers to neo-hippies and new age travellers. While there is some overlap, the shared label is largely coincidental. Neither group stole it from the other, it was just a lack of communication.

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