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03 Aug 2008, 3:09 pm

I'm asking who listens to Green Day and why. Mine will be in the satire in their music!



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03 Aug 2008, 3:26 pm

I listened to Green Day briefly when I was nine going on ten because I liked the album cover of Dookie and their lyrics had funny words like "f**k" and "s**t". Dookie was the first album I ever bought (the second was Insomniac). Then I got into a fight with my parents and I didn't listen to Green Day again until American Idiot got big. I didn't even listen to rock music again until I was fifteen.

A few years ago I approached listening to Dookie again with trepidation, but it's a good album. Insomniac didn't do so much for me, the best song is a Chicago rip-off and the rest sort of goes in one ear and out the other.



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03 Aug 2008, 3:36 pm

I don't have time to post my full thoughts on Green Day, but just a warning - people are going to come on here and say how s**t they are how much American Idiot sucked. Just a heads up.



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03 Aug 2008, 3:56 pm

I always kind of liked American Idiot, and was perplexed by all these young people saying Green Day had sold out. I mean, OK sure, but when? I remember having a conversation when I was nineteen with this kid who was fifteen and I said American Idiot might be my favourite album of theirs. He said "you should listen to Dookie." I already had, long ago. And back then it was considered Green Day's big sell-out album. They got attacked many times from hip punk rock fans for stupid reasons. I don't see what's changed here.



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03 Aug 2008, 4:56 pm

I listened to greenday back in the day. I just recently re-bought their album "insomniac". These days greenday seems less neo-punk and more pop however.


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03 Aug 2008, 5:12 pm

I like them. I don't love them, but they have some good songs. Most of Insomniac is really good.


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03 Aug 2008, 5:16 pm

DocStrange wrote:
I like them. I don't love them, but they have some good songs. Most of Insomniac is really good.


Ohh yeah definately. Insomniac takes me back to my middle school days (mid to late nineties).


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03 Aug 2008, 5:44 pm

i used to listen to them back when i was 11-16

i still sing along to the songs when i hear them, and yes i could tell you that american idiot is worse than their other accomplishments, vut i'll tell you the same about blink 182, sum 41, offspring and AFI, all good bands that i got to like less as time went on



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03 Aug 2008, 6:32 pm

Not a fan really, but some of their songs I like quite a lot. Holiday is my favourite I think, I also like Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Basket Case, Minority, American Idiot, ...

Basket Case is about anxiety disorder. It may sound like a simply tune with a simple lyric, but it really isn't. I have anxiety disorders myself and believe me, the lyrics are spot on.

From Holiday I like the line "This is the dawning of the rest of our lives", that line sounds really hopeful.

Also, as a fanatic make-up user myself, I think Billy Joe looks great with eyeliner even though he clearly copied it from me 8)


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03 Aug 2008, 6:35 pm

I became a fan of their's a year or two ago when I got their "American Idiot" album for Christmas. I wanted to check out the album earlier but my brother told me that he thinks they're a crappy, commercialized band. Even though my brother is a great musician , he has a close-minded taste in music (he's often criticized my taste in music, and our family sometimes like to jokingly call him a "music Nazi", lol). I think that Green Day is a good band, but I agree with my brother on how they're commercialized.

I thought "American Idiot" was a good album. I eventually bought 2 of their other albums, Dookie and Warning (which are also really good). Warning is currently my favorite Green Day album.



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04 Aug 2008, 5:26 am

Commercial = something with a sales value

Any music can be commercial. Nirvana sold millions of records, so did Rush, Genesis (Gabriel era), Ramones, ..... Are any of those bands poppy or bad because suddenly they reached a wide audience?


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04 Aug 2008, 1:00 pm

Almost all Music is commercalized. However "Green Day" is still good and oringinal.



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04 Aug 2008, 1:56 pm

I see you are a Rammstein fan. Another perfect example of a band that gets mainstream success while not making very accessible or poppy music at all. Commercial is a very vague term. I would say the tag only fits bands who adapt their music with the sole purpose of selling. When a band does their own thing as they really believe it should sound, and it happens to reach a wide audience, then good for them but that mainstream success does not make them a commercial band.

PS: wenn du Rammstein Fan bist, bist du deutschsprachig? Ich wohne in Berlin, nicht so weit von der Straße wo den Rammstein-guitarspieler noch gewohnt hatte früher :D


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04 Aug 2008, 3:36 pm

Okay. Green Day.

I don't think Green Day sold out when they went major in 1994. I think Dookie is a hell of a record.

However, I think Insomniac, being the darker, angrier record (and featuring my favourite song of theirs, 'Jaded') is the superior album to its predecessor.

I think Nimrod is their individual peak, even more than American Idiot, because it's not got the underlying concept, but has a lot of more mature songs, but also a lot of their earlier and later influences, some experimentation, wacky instrumentals, acoustic elements, basically it's an eclectic, heady mix, and I like it for that. I think it's their classic album.

American Idiot, I don't think is an album where they sold out. I think it's an amazing album, although I did wear it out and have to wait a while before I can listen to it again. I think they sold out on the subsequent tour. I saw them live, and ti was the same damn gig I'd seen on TV which was the same damn gig I'd read about in the magazines. They did a pantomime of themselves on that tour. It was too rehearsed, too clean. It wasn't a rock show, it was a pop concert.

However, their next move as Green Day will be utterly fascinating.



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06 Aug 2008, 6:33 pm

crackedpleasures wrote:
Commercial is a very vague term. I would say the tag only fits bands who adapt their music with the sole purpose of selling. When a band does their own thing as they really believe it should sound, and it happens to reach a wide audience, then good for them but that mainstream success does not make them a commercial band.


That's what I meant when I said my brother and I think Green Day is a commercial band. Even though I think that their music is really good, they appear to care more about making money than making music.



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10 Aug 2008, 3:20 pm

"Dookie" was a common example that not all artists were Nirvana, Sheryl Crow, Ace Of Base, Pearl Jam Wannabes during the Mid-90's. Not everyone was listen to the the Friends them song and dancing to "I say the sign".