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26 Jan 2009, 6:10 pm

Recently I was able to join the school drama club (the few, the proud... all fifteen (or so) of us.)

I remember the first time I stepped out onto the stage. It felt... right somehow. Like I was meant to be there.

And I must have been, because on my first audition I got four (four!) roles in our production of Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles: Mr. Willis, Lt. Rollins, Capt. Black, and Fr. Peregrine. I was really not that bad, for a raw recruit. In short, the production went beautifully, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Then, for the Maryland High School Theater Festival, we put on Louder, I Can't Hear You by William Gleason. I played the role of Oscar, the ass of a husband (who happens to be the polar opposite of me as a person.) I apparently did really well... well enough to win a medal for Excellence in Acting for it!

I absolutely love theatre. If I weren't interested in majoring in electrical engineering, I would more than likely major in theater or photography.

And the best part about theater is the people! They are the nicest people I have ever met. Easy to get along with and very kind.

I've definitely discovered another passion of mine. Who here shares it?



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26 Jan 2009, 9:15 pm

Good for you! I majored in theatre in uni and it's currently not on my agenda (I've got a lot of other things going on at the moment) but I hope to get back into it in the next few years. You're right about the people. It's such a mix of diverse people and it's tons of fun! The great thing is that even if you're not majoring in it, you can still do community theatre and work a 9-5 job. Most of the people in our theatre company had a daytime job doing other things and kept theatre as their hobby.



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26 Jan 2009, 9:18 pm

be careful, Theatre can be full of the nicest people, but as you go more towards the professional side of it, the more backstabbing, self centered and egotistical people can get.

They don't call them drama queens for nothing 8)



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26 Jan 2009, 9:24 pm

Theatre is what keeps me going. I'm always in some sort of show. I'm actually in two shows at the moment. I know what you mean about how it just feels right. When I'm up on stage, that's one of the only times I actually feel like I belong. Like it's what I was meant to do. Theatre people for the most part are the most welcoming accepting people too. Of course there are diva's as someone else pointed out, but for the most part they're extremely easy to talk to, and don't take themselves too seriously. I'm planning on double majoring in theatre and veterinary technology.



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26 Jan 2009, 10:35 pm

Before I found out I had AS, and began to meet other people on the spectrum, theater people were some of the only people who would tolerate me. They were "weird" enough that my "weirdness" didn't seem so extreme.

I majored in theater in college, which I wouldn't recommend for people on the spectrum, since getting employed in theater is difficult enough without the added challenges of autism. Professional theater companies are much harder to get into than college theater companies, and the workload and emotional stress tend to be much greater, especially if you are trying to work one or several day jobs to support your career.

For aspies/auties in college, I would recommend majoring in something with a more solid career path (like engineering, for instance), and taking classes in the drama department and/or doing community theater. I highly recommend doing theater, just not as a major.

I currently teach theater and music outreach part-time for kids and teens with Asperger's and other autism spectrum conditions, and I love my work (it makes my low-paying day job of editorial assistant much more tolerable). Unfortunately, there is not enough demand in my area for me to teach full-time.

I think one of the reasons why theater is so good for us autistics is that it is a social construct that allows us to interact with other people within a (relatively) closed system. Unlike "real life," where there is an ill-defined set of social rules that are as likely ignored as followed, theater has a set of clearly defined rules that guide the interactions of the actors. Moreover, not only are the rules known, but a script is typically provided, meaning that the outcome of every interaction is known. Even improv has a clear set of rules that the actors adhere to. Theater allows people create a set of social interactions that are relatively safe, and acts as a form of social therapy, especially for people like us that find social interchanges difficult to manage.

For me, doing theater was one of the few respites I had from the difficulty and stress of the neurotypical world. The social interactions I engaged in on stage were the closest things to "friendships" that I had growing up, and I think to a large part they contributed to me not killing myself due to the rejection and cruelty I experienced from the majority of people I interacted with. Doing theater likely saved my life.

The downside of doing theater is that since I majored in theater in college, there are very few jobs that I qualify for. Although I graduated at the top of my class from Sarah Lawrence College in 2002, I am marginally employed, working as a virtual assistant to a local editor. I have recently started completing the undergraduate prerequisites to a degree in psychology so that I can get a graduate degree working with kids on the spectrum. However, this process of retooling is slow, and it would have been easier had I simply majored in psychology in college, and done theater as a hobby.

In closing, as I state above, I highly recommend that we on the spectrum do theater, with the one caveat that we pursue a degree at college with a career track.

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26 Jan 2009, 10:49 pm

Caterina wrote:
I think one of the reasons why theater is so good for us autistics is that it is a social construct that allows us to interact with other people within a (relatively) closed system. Unlike "real life," where there is an ill-defined set of social rules that are as likely ignored as followed, theater has a set of clearly defined rules that guide the interactions of the actors. Moreover, not only are the rules known, but a script is typically provided, meaning that the outcome of every interaction is known. Even improv has a clear set of rules that the actors adhere to. Theater allows people create a set of social interactions that are relatively safe, and acts as a form of social therapy, especially for people like us that find social interchanges difficult to manage.

For me, doing theater was one of the few respites I had from the difficulty and stress of the neurotypical world. The social interactions I engaged in on stage were the closest things to "friendships" that I had growing up, and I think to a large part they contributed to me not killing myself due to the rejection and cruelty I experienced from the majority of people I interacted with. Doing theater likely saved my life.


Wow, well said! I feel exactly the same about theatre.



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27 Jan 2009, 12:39 am

I fully concur.

When I was younger, one of my teachers said, alongside straight As, "Heidi will go far in her chosen career of acting".

I hadn't even chosen my career at that point; but apparently the writing was on the wall.

I have always acted, and, like others, have found it a portal for my quirks and oddities. Whilst others found me strange, the drama community to a large extent embraced me - and consequently I felt like I fitted in. I could memorise scripts, and enjoyed the truly unmatachable buzz from being on stage.

Currently I'm attempting to get work in the field, but, like others have said, it's not easy.



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27 Jan 2009, 8:46 pm

I intend to major in electrical engineering... I'm not worried about being employable! :wink: But a double major in theater is REALLY appealing to me at the moment.

+1 on the stage buzz, coppeliaflower... there's just something about being on the stage, in front of an audience, under those hot lights that's just incredibly fun and energizing. And there have been two places where I've ever felt that I've really belonged: the science and math magnet school that I'm fortunate to go to, and the drama club, which I'm fortunate to be a part of.



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27 Jan 2009, 8:54 pm

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I intend to major in electrical engineering... I'm not worried about being employable! :wink: But a double major in theater is REALLY appealing to me at the moment.


It's a wise thing to do! I majored in Theatre and Business.



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27 Jan 2009, 9:48 pm

Stevopedia wrote:
Recently I was able to join the school drama club (the few, the proud... all fifteen (or so) of us.)

I remember the first time I stepped out onto the stage. It felt... right somehow. Like I was meant to be there.

And I must have been, because on my first audition I got four (four!) roles in our production of Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles: Mr. Willis, Lt. Rollins, Capt. Black, and Fr. Peregrine. I was really not that bad, for a raw recruit. In short, the production went beautifully, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Then, for the Maryland High School Theater Festival, we put on Louder, I Can't Hear You by William Gleason. I played the role of Oscar, the ass of a husband (who happens to be the polar opposite of me as a person.) I apparently did really well... well enough to win a medal for Excellence in Acting for it!

I absolutely love theatre. If I weren't interested in majoring in electrical engineering, I would more than likely major in theater or photography.

And the best part about theater is the people! They are the nicest people I have ever met. Easy to get along with and very kind.

I've definitely discovered another passion of mine. Who here shares it?


Hell yeah! Nice to see a fellow thespian... personally to this day I think theatre helped me break free from my social isolation, because 1) acting like other people requires some social imagination, and 2) Theatre groupies will pretty much take anyone. They may be the outcasts of the high school hiearchy, but at least they're good people, very friendly and accepting of quirky people. Every thespian has their insanity streak. I have mine, and so does everyone else I know in my drama club.

Theatre is probably the way to learn more about social interaction. There's even a sociological theory called dramaturgy, which pretty much says that social interaction is like actors interacting onstage. Or as Shakespeare would put it, "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players"... random Bard quote aside, play on!


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30 Jan 2009, 12:22 pm

-Vorzac- wrote:
be careful, Theatre can be full of the nicest people, but as you go more towards the professional side of it, the more backstabbing, self centered and egotistical people can get.

They don't call them drama queens for nothing 8)


I'm majoring in theater. I know a few people who are from Broadway and their some of the nicest people I have ever met. One f them has even been nice to sort of mentor me so to speak.



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30 Jan 2009, 1:37 pm

I worked in a theatre for four years, I met a lot of professional, even famous actors. Some of them were lovely, some, but not all, Treated the staff like dirt.
When I was studying performing arts, we had one or two real nasty pieces of work. One of them even stole my wallet so he could buy more pot. My experiences with Drama school students was just as bad.
I only speak from my personal experiences, yours may be different, but that doesn't mean either of us are wrong.



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30 Jan 2009, 3:09 pm

-Vorzac- wrote:
I worked in a theatre for four years, I met a lot of professional, even famous actors. Some of them were lovely, some, but not all, Treated the staff like dirt.
When I was studying performing arts, we had one or two real nasty pieces of work. One of them even stole my wallet so he could buy more pot. My experiences with Drama school students was just as bad.
I only speak from my personal experiences, yours may be different, but that doesn't mean either of us are wrong.


I understand where you're coming from. In my experience, looser theater environments like high school and community theaters are usually quite accepting- but once you get to a more concentrated or professional level you have to be more careful. People are regularly competing for their resume and pay, and there is only so much room. If I tend to get cast as a similar type to another actor or that actor's friend, they will probably not want me there. They feel that space is taken. It's similar to the world of studio musicians.

The one exception I have found is if you work with an already existing professional company, that way the actors are more secure old-timers and they can be more like mentors than competitors.



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30 Jan 2009, 7:37 pm

thanks for understanding :)



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30 Jan 2009, 9:51 pm

I think that the surest way to be able to have a career in the theater is to work as a "techie". You might not be treated very well by some of the actors but, hey, at least you would be consistantly employed and you'll probably make more money than some of the actors. :wink:



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31 Jan 2009, 4:25 pm

notbrianna wrote:
I think that the surest way to be able to have a career in the theater is to work as a "techie". You might not be treated very well by some of the actors but, hey, at least you would be consistantly employed and you'll probably make more money than some of the actors. :wink:


This is truth.

I always found it good to show some respect to the techies. After all, you'd don't want to be onstage, performing in the dark 8)