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Mystic
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20 Nov 2007, 1:17 am

Kurtz wrote:

I like Mystery because of his attitude: everything that makes women attracted to you makes you a better person. It may start off as "i just wanna get laid", but you need to be a person who can display their worth.

DeAngelo goes the other way: improve yourself so you can get laid, which is why I like him. I use Mystery for the "this is how she's going to show you you're doing a good job." I do agree that "you need to be a person who can display their worth," but I think DeAngelo's thing about self meditation and envisioning yourself in the 10 most common situations you will be in is better than Mystery. Mystery just seems to be like "say this and say it good, check for IOI's and don't do any IOI's yourself." Yes, his attitude is good, and so is the peacocking idea, but his thing just seems so fake to me.

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The anger of as*holes is the windsock of truth.

What do you mean by this? Their anger didn't show you anything, they just hated your skills.

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20 Nov 2007, 2:16 am

Mystic wrote:

What do you mean by this? Their anger didn't show you anything, they just hated your skills.

Not at the time, no. But when I reflect back on my life using the skills, lenses and models I now possess, I can see that they held both myself and others down by negating our best traits.

So, when I discover that someone's a narcissistic dick, I can be relatively sure that when they go haywire on me it's because I'm right or they are feeling inferior.

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20 Nov 2007, 7:39 am

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Mystic wrote:

What do you mean by this? Their anger didn't show you anything, they just hated your skills.

All this stuff about alpha males and evolution is pretty much bunk anyway.

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20 Nov 2007, 1:12 pm

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That makes sense then. Good view to have of them.

I just thought of something I might do with the girl... get one of those candy rings, get down on one knee, and dramatically ask her to go to the dance she's constantly interrupted from going to. It might ruin any chance I have with her, but it'll at least be funny to see her face!

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20 Nov 2007, 6:14 pm

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All this stuff about alpha males and evolution is pretty much bunk anyway.

Then why can't you leave me alone?

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21 Nov 2007, 6:56 am

Kurtz wrote:

Pandora wrote:

All this stuff about alpha males and evolution is pretty much bunk anyway.

Then why can't you leave me alone?

I never chased you but it does annoy me when people act like jerks and then blame it all on "selfish genes" (I'm not referring to you in particular; just people who act like selfish players. There aren't selfish genes but there is selfish behaviour.

Saying it is because of selfish genes suggests the person has NO control over their behaviour and choices but this is incorrect. They CAN decide to behave more reputably IF they really want to. If they don't want to, that's their choice but they shouldn't hide behind lame excuses such as "evolution".

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21 Nov 2007, 2:34 pm

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If you were implying that I am blaming selfish genes for my unconscious behavior, you are wrong. I was blaming the genes for women (in general) not knowing what they really want or why they do some things (so some, not all of their behaviors). So I am blaming genes for how I decided to start behaving. Not because they are forcing me into anything.

I also never said the genes control what you think. They control what you feel, and if you tell me that you can not feel pain when you touch your hand to a hot stove, then I will believe that you are either crazy, abnormal, or you somehow have more control over your feelings than anyone I know. If you can convince me that you can make yourself feel love (not just affection) towards someone in particular, then I will believe I don't have to use what I've learned for you (it was never "on you," I don't plan to use this just to "get laid." I'm using it to have fun while I meet women and date).

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24 Nov 2007, 6:39 am

Its just funny, every time my eyes scan by this topic heading I almost always think it says 'Julie Update' (ie. Juliekitty).

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29 Nov 2007, 6:32 pm

Hmm, very clever and useful. My BIGGEST problem is actually approaching chicks and maintaining eye contact. From there, it's considerably easier. It's hard getting past that point.

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03 Dec 2007, 12:00 am

Anubis wrote:

Hmm, very clever and useful. My BIGGEST problem is actually approaching chicks and maintaining eye contact. From there, it's considerably easier. It's hard getting past that point.

For me is everything, even online I can't make a good convsersation, or talk about something interesting, much less something romantic.

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05 Dec 2007, 12:32 pm

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For me is everything, even online I can't make a good convsersation, or talk about something interesting, much less something romantic.

Same here, I can't make good conversation, but I don't let that stop me from trying to become better at making conversation. I don't think you need to make romantic conversation, that might actually be a bad thing (unless you are teasing her about being too forward or wanting to get you into bed).

Mystic wrote:

I just thought of something I might do with the girl... get one of those candy rings, get down on one knee, and dramatically ask her to go to the dance she's constantly interrupted from going to. It might ruin any chance I have with her, but it'll at least be funny to see her face!

I did what I said, although instead of asking her to the dance lessons I asked her to a semi-formal dance. Didn't do it very dramatically and forgot to tell her that it was semi-formal, so she didn't have a clean dress to wear and didn't go, ): instead she went to a bar dance.
I still had a good time at the semi-formal, got an invalid email address and phone number (learned from it, so it was still a good experience... grinding and learning a name isn't enough to ask for more... which I should have known, it had just seemed like a good idea at the time...).

Now I feel like I need to decide how I want to act before continuing the attempts... but I seem to be having an easy time making my voice less nasally (I had decided I didn't like how I was talking when I went to a mock interview and heard myself without my brain making myself sound better). I have a month to figure it out at home where I probably won't be going out (small towns suck that way, especially since I'm somewhat tight with my money).

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13 Dec 2007, 6:38 am

Anubis wrote:

Hmm, very clever and useful. My BIGGEST problem is actually approaching chicks and maintaining eye contact. From there, it's considerably easier. It's hard getting past that point.

If you bend down, you can reach their eye level. I think that would be about 3 inches or so as little chickens aren't very tall. They are cute and fluffy though.

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16 Dec 2007, 12:23 pm

geez, you people are still milking this silly thread?

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16 Dec 2007, 12:27 pm

Ok let's end this thread once and for all.

There's only 2 ways to be an alpha:

1-You are naturally-born alpha (handsome,tall, strong,healthy,good genes,confident....etc)
2-If you are not naturally-born alpha then you have to get fame ,success or big wealth in order to become something very similar to "alpha male".

[/end of thread]

Mystic
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16 Dec 2007, 12:57 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

There's only 2 ways to be an alpha:

1-You are naturally-born alpha (handsome,tall, strong,healthy,good genes,confident....etc)
2-If you are not naturally-born alpha then you have to get fame ,success or big wealth in order to become something very similar to "alpha male".

I agree that you have to be the best in the world to be the only true alpha, but to be the alpha of the room, you only need to attract the girls in the room.

LePetitPrince wrote:

[/end of thread]

Is that actually supposed to make people think this thread's over? Most people can't figure out how to use special features like quote (a lot because they never have used forums, some because they never try to).

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21 Dec 2007, 9:03 pm

I understand that its important to "be yourself" when seeking out a relationship. But what if "being yourself" means never initiating conversation and replying in mostly one word answers?

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