Do Aspie women prefer Aspie or NT men?

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21 Jul 2008, 9:57 am

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Women with AS probably have more and better education than AS men, are much more mature and tend to be less obese due to compulsive overeating than AS men.

I don't know about that. We become the civil and software engineers, and lots of women tend to become obese due to substituting food for love, or other compulsive behaviors.



There are many junior high dropouts among men with AS.

In Norway, or the 'States? How many junior high dropouts do we have here?


In Norway, special education is actually seen as harmful and as something that just labels kids. Aspie boys end up in a class with 30 kids that are 5-8 years before them in maturity and voila, you have a junior high drop out. In other countries you have private schools and special schools. There are barely any Aspies here who have a higher education.

There are lots of autistic college professors. Academic settings is are one of the places we congregate.


In the US and UK, yes. Here in Norway they don't segregate students based on abilities and maturity, so there's almost no boys with AS that complete high school.



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21 Jul 2008, 10:19 am

I don't see how dropping out of hell (school) has anything to do with it. Anyhow, I prefer Aspie men by the fact that they communicate on my social levels. That quiet, timid side also drives me wild! I love it! That personality makes me feel mushy and giggly. And yes I was a drop out from Junior high. Not because of school avoidance by itself, but because public school was literaly killing the last bits of my sanity.



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21 Jul 2008, 10:22 am

We got off on a tangent. These things happen.


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21 Jul 2008, 10:24 am

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Women with AS probably have more and better education than AS men, are much more mature and tend to be less obese due to compulsive overeating than AS men.

I don't know about that. We become the civil and software engineers, and lots of women tend to become obese due to substituting food for love, or other compulsive behaviors.



There are many junior high dropouts among men with AS.

In Norway, or the 'States? How many junior high dropouts do we have here?


In Norway, special education is actually seen as harmful and as something that just labels kids. Aspie boys end up in a class with 30 kids that are 5-8 years before them in maturity and voila, you have a junior high drop out. In other countries you have private schools and special schools. There are barely any Aspies here who have a higher education.

There are lots of autistic college professors. Academic settings is are one of the places we congregate.



What do you guys mean by "Jr." high 7-8 grade or do you mean just high school any grade?



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21 Jul 2008, 10:27 am

Well these days, in the 'States, it's called Middle School. I don't know what's it's called in Norway. Here I think it's grades 6,7,8 and maybe sometimes 9 (of 12)


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21 Jul 2008, 10:29 am

I was junior high drop out. I attend 6 schools in total and the last one I tried to get into was an all girls school and the enrol principal said or smuggly suggested we dont take bad girls here > but I wasnt bad I was just an confused aspie.



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21 Jul 2008, 1:36 pm

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Well these days, in the 'States, it's called Middle School. I don't know what's it's called in Norway. Here I think it's grades 6,7,8 and maybe sometimes 9 (of 12)


In Norway it's 8th to 10th grade (age 13-16).



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21 Jul 2008, 5:18 pm

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I would imagine that Aspie women who's condition is not Severe, who Have a sex drive/sexual interest in men, and who arent bad looking would be FAR more likely to meet and encounter NT men and to be approached by them. I think that the few aspie women out there IRL are snatched up by NT men ...

I believe you are correct that they/we are approached by NT guys, but unless the NT guy is only looking for a sexual relationship, things soon start "going wrong". Too intense a focus on our own interests, only feigned interests in the guy’s interests, meltdowns, intellectual competition (most guys don’t want to date girls with IQs 30 points higher and salaries $50K higher)… soon they decide that we are “distant”, “weird” and “high maintenance”.

Summary - meeting guys is easy, any woman need only stand in a bar with a drink in her hand (and yes – tight jeans, 4” heels and a revealing top all help). Establishing and maintaining a relationship is another matter; for many of us bordering on impossible.

And regarding that odd poll (which seems totally unrelated to the thread subject) I sailed thro JHS in a world of my own. I thought of it as a game that, for once, I could win. I studied, focused, did very well in class work, yet had not a single friend, can’t recall a single teacher’s name, nor even what the building looked like.



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21 Jul 2008, 10:09 pm

Yeh..i was confused by the poll too....

I trudged my way all the way up through 12th grade.....and into the pit of Community College, and only then did I break out of the gulag of a school system.....

I did spend 10-12 grades and onward dating an "NT"....yaaaarrrgh
He was an intelligent NT who treated me like those images you see of a caveman bonking the the female caveman on the head with the club and dragging her off by the hair



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22 Jul 2008, 5:31 am

The poll is related to a tangent discussion SlowMutant and I were having.

If you only read the first post and the last, as I often do, you'll miss that.


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22 Jul 2008, 5:39 pm

I like aspie/aspie-ish guys myself, there's more in common with them.



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22 Jul 2008, 6:09 pm

My guess is that most female Aspies are indifferent in this regard.


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22 Jul 2008, 6:13 pm

Can we move the junior high dropout poll to a more appropriate place?



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22 Jul 2008, 6:36 pm

aspiemom1 wrote:
personally, someone that I'll call a Shadow Aspie or an Aspie is what I need. I have been in relationships with NT, DID NOT WORK AT ALL. they cant understand me at all. Oh and now with my boys (one AS one NT) Im even more extra careful to make sure that this fictional HE would be able to deal with my aspie son as well.

By shadow aspie, I mean someone with aspie traits, but still could not get a dx of aspie as more NT than aspie.


As a bit of an ex man-eater (aka fast-soulmate-searching-sifter), I can certainly vouch for 'Cuspies': my new boyfriend (soulmate) (yeay!! !) is my first ever Cuspie out of a total of 74 relationships (I didn't sleep with all of them, however (I should flippin' hope not!! ! :lol: ), and is so markedly better for me in all aspects/areas that should he and I go splat! (although we both seriously doubt it) I will probably never consider dating an NT ever again. They simply cannot cope with our level of honesty, perfectionism, tenacity, etc. They can 'understand' all they like, but accommodating and tolerating our standards and behaviour - in reality - day after day after day - is a totally different kettle of fish.

It's different when you're younger because Opposites (incl. clashing followed by Making Up) are more exciting, and excitement is necessary for providing staying-power when settling down isnt yet your motivation for such; however, when you're ready for a more meaningful, mature relationship then I believe that having as many common traits, interests and goals as possible is the only successful recipe.

I myself am Aspie (although people nowadays merely deem me 'eccentric/different' because I've spent years modifying/redirecting my natural urges), and my boyfriend says that I'm a vast improvement for him too (his ex-wife was also NT). For but one out of many positive examples: both she and my own soon2b ex-husband accused each of us of being 'anal' when it came to cleanliness and tidiness. Certainly by their "slobby standards", we were. But to each other - No Contrast = No Problem...just two exceptionally clean and tidy houses and two exceptionally contented residents/guests who'll never EVER have to pick a damp towel off the floor again (grrrrr...don't get me started...! !! !).

So, in conclusion, I'm with you on that score. xoxo

PS: How old ARE you if you don't mind my asking?
PPS: How old ARE you if you do mind my asking?
PPPS: I'll 'show' you mine if you 'show' me yours!



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22 Jul 2008, 6:45 pm

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Can we move the junior high dropout poll to a more appropriate place?

Sure. I just wanted to illustrate that the drop out rate was not higher for aspie males.

Are you a junior high dropout?
yes - male
9% [ 1 ]
no - male
27% [ 3 ]
yes - female
27% [ 3 ]
no - female
36% [ 4 ]

Total Votes : 11


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22 Jul 2008, 6:49 pm

MrMark wrote:
Total Votes : 11


Not exactly a reliable sample size.