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I'm guessing you have no idea how offensive this is because if you did, you would not have posted it. There is no "sucking up" in relationships; there is love or failure. It does not work that the boy "sucks up" to a girl and she eventually has sex with him; she has sex because she loves him. I was with my boyfriend for two years before we had sex. You seem to think that a relationship is like a bribe, or that anything you do for a girl in a relationship is a bribe. All you care about is using one part of someone for your own pleasure. I hope that since you seem to like to use other people as objects that you don't also like bondage or sadism because of what that combination would create. You don't want to love or even do work to have sex, that is the true mark of a person who views other people as objects. Maybe I should be easier on you since we all have Autism or Asperger's Syndrome and it could be hard for you to understand other people's feelings. I'll keep in mind that maybe you have difficulty relating to other people's feelings. I have an Autistic friend I talked to a few years ago about sex with; he is an exception to this. He was too shy and lacked knowledge of what to do to have a relationship, and that is why I helped him find a girl to have sex with. I hope you weren't thinking through what kind of message your post would send because of disgusting it is. Even my friend who would see this as a legitimate concern would be appalled by your use of "...or suck up to her." Please realize how this kind of thing makes people feel and don't do it again.

It slightly offended me emotionally to want sex with a women in the way of using her, but I could understand you don't want to be stuck with a relationship. I find your remark regarding abortion just repulsive.

Invest in some good porn. Hiring prostitutes or getting lapdances from a strip club can get expensive. Porn is relatively cheap in comparison, you can reuse it as many times as you want, and there is zero risk of pregnancy or STDs.

You could try for one-night-stands or friends with benefits, but if so, be careful to be very clear that you are uninterested in a relationship. And be polite and make sure she is satisfied too, even if you know you'll never see her again.

Keep in mind that prostitutes are not legal in many places, and that any form of casual sex shares the same risk as hiring prostitutes for reputation loss.

If the only reason you don't want a relationship is that you don't want to have to "suck up to her", then keep in mind that there are plenty of girls out there who wouldn't want you to suck up to them anyway. You just have to find the right girl.

To all those who reacted judgementally -- stop it. Especially those who were throwing around sexist insults like "pig". He came here for advice. You could have advised him that he should avoid hurting someone's feelings, but decided instead that getting offended and throwing around insults would be more fun.

yup...check out Rosy Palm and her 5 daughters....

Y'know, sex is there for a reason. It's only the icing on the cake. You miss a lot by just concentrating on the icing... If you can learn to form a relationship with a woman, you might find that you can have sex, more than once, and eventually begin to realize that mindless sex isn't all that fulfilling.

just something to think about...

I sometimes wonder if that isn't a myth our times! Mindless sex can be the absolute *best*

Although I don't have a very positive view of women romantically my age, I find this post to be in poor tastes and rather vulgar in nature.

I was reading some of your replies and you said you wanted to have sex because it relieves sexual tension. Well my friend, most of the guys on this forum have a lot of sexual tension, but they also realize that intimacy (shared interests and friendship) are also important.

To merely want sex for the sole purpose of gratifying sexual needs isn't honorable. If you want to have sex with someone, you should deeply love and care about them, not use them as a means to release sexual lust. Women only allow guys to have sex with them when the guy has fufilled their emotional needs and has given them reason to trust the guy enough for sex.

Prostitutes are sad people, and you shouldn't associate yourself with them, you will definitely be known by the company you keep. I'm sure I've been single longer than you have, and I haven't turned to prostitutes. Why? Because there is no honor in such behavior, religiously speaking as a Christian, and because it goes against the whole nature of human relationships. Sex is meaningless without shared interests and commitment, it may be fun for a while, but it will lose its edge in time.

Wanting sex because we have a God-given sex drive is the normal condition of the human species.


So a married couple who want to have a quickie are definitely in the wrong then?


Ah -- so sex is the coin that women use to pay men back for sucking up to them? I'm glad the OP disagrees with you here, otherwise he might just suck up to a girl until she put out and then dump her.


Religiously speaking, also as a Christian, may I remind you that Jesus hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes?

I find it kind of rediculous that people think its offensive towards women when a man desires a prostitute. (personally I wouldn't because I'm too afraid of diseases and I don't like condoms lol). I mean, these ladies know what they are doing, and know what they are in for. It's not like they are being vicimized, some just love sex so much, hey, why not do it for a living? (even if you are desperate for money, there are so many other options other than prostitution, so it is HER choise to do these things) I don't think sex has to be some kind of sacred thing between two people (unless I was in a relationship or something, which is unlikely LOL). If I had it my way, there would be no diseases and everyone would have sex with everyone and just have a fun time. So our idea of having a good time is different, that makes us "pigs"? Or even if it is just to get some stress off your back, why not find someone attractive who is looking for the same relief?

True, but what we do with that sex drive is another matter than having a sex drive. Everyone has a sex drive, but it is primitive and socially taboo to want sex alone and not to want relationships, which enables the possibility of sex. It is considered taboo just to want sex solely, as it is unrealistic, immoral, and unreasonable. There is a reason why prostitutes and guys who solicit them are looked upon with dissapointment or disgust.




If a couple are married, they care about each other intimately (shared interests and friendship), romantically, and are commited to one another. God views the couple as one when they are united in marriage, and thus what they do in their bed is not lust or engaging in sexual sin, because they have become united as one under God as I said.

I will admit one error, I did say "If you want to have sex with someone, you should deeply love and care about them, not use them as a means to release sexual lust". Sexual intercourse of any kind that is not under the confines of marriage is sexual immorality to God. As Paul said in Corinthians "The body was not made for sexual immorality but the body for the Lord and the Lord for the body". It also says in Thessalonians 4:3-6:

“It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid all sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your body in a way that is honorable and holy, not in passionate lust, like the heathen, who do not know God"

But considering that I assumed that more than likely many people on here are either atheists or agnostics, since that seems to be the prevailing trend nowadays, I reworded my message in an incorrect manner.




Women will only have sex with men if they trust them on an emotional level to the point where they are not going to fight back.
It's no reward, I'm sure most girls are rather reluctant to engage males sexually when it comes down to it. What the OP wants is to have sex with a girl and to negate all the relationship material that is nesscary for anything to become worthwhile romantically.

To want women just for sex and sex alone is dishonorable, women are human beings too, they're not toys to be used and discarded afterwards. That's my opinion though, and although I am dissapointed in women romantically, I know there is promise in them as well despite some of the poor choices that they make concerning the selection of their romantic partners.




Yes, He did, however, tell me, did Jesus engage sexually with prostitutes or was thinking about soliciting prostitutes, like the OP was thinking about? Jesus hung around with tax collectors and prostitutes because He wanted to save them. Even Jesus said at one point to the Pharisees or Saducees who mocked him for hanging out with these types of people: "Tell me, do doctors go to treat people who already are well. No. I came not to heal those who are already cured but I came to heal the sick"

Hanging around prostitutes, as in soliciting them, is sinful by its own nature. Hanging out with them is not good because a.) you are known by the company you keep aka reputation, and by, because it can be dangerous as well. To preach God's Word is a different matter, Jesus tried to change people of their sinful ways, that is the only exception I can see.

I find unbefitting of men and beneath them to go for prostitutes, because prostitution is a false love, a cheap thrill that isn't love, and religiously speaking, it is immoral.

I am willing to argue that many prostitutes were originally sad people who had something dramatic that happened to them to go after such a lifestyle. Some women are prostitutes because of financial desperation, but I also believe that many prostitutes were victims of sexual abuse or physical abuse before they became prostitutes. I believe several of them are like this, and I'm sure they take no delight in their profession. What self respecting woman would enjoy having guys she doesn't even know using her as a pin cushion?

A woman who has self respect for herself and a sense of morality will not let guys have their way with her for money or anything else. As I stated above, something went wrong, whether it was financial desperation or sexual/physical abuse that altered that girl's/woman's perspective of themselves to the point where they didn't care about themselves enough to respect their bodies or to stand up for themselves. They might even be controlled by pimps, thus adding to their already sad existence.

Of course, there are prostitutes who enjoy their profession and enjoy making money off their clientele'. I pity them, because they don't realize that their sexual sins, if continued and unrepented for, will lead their damnation to Hell. It says in Corinthians "Do you not know that the wicked shall never inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?" and it goes into a long list of people who won't go into heaven, and sexual sinners who continue in their sin and do not repent are one of those.

I'm not excusing the actions of prostitutes, but I am explaining that some of them are victims in their own right, although they continue to sin.

Funny, I thought it was Jesus who called the shots on who got into heaven, not you...

I'm not saying I condone the acts of willing prostitutes either, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to judge them for anything they choose to do... Judge not, lest ye be judged...

well, St. Paul came after Jesus, and contributed a lot of the New Testament, so you have at least 2 viewpoints there. I think the one you refer to is 'it's better to Marry than burn' bit.

Something may be going on though with sex, if you have it with the same person more than once. Eventually, you might find yourself falling (they don't call it 'making love' for nothing...

BTW- isn't it the Daleks that say 'exterminate'?... I can't remember what the Cybermen say...

Well, to be honest, the big thing surrounding who gets into heaven is Jesus. The main topic of argument for christian theologians is trying to answer WWJD, and there's multiple differing opinions and interpretations on that subject... Some would see Jesus as a "bouncer", keeping out the people who do not repent, etc... On the other hand, I see Jesus as something more akin to a line that Morpheus said in the Matrix: "I can open the door, but you must choose to go through it"...


Isn't it "DELETE" or something like that?

Good point, Ancalagon. AutisticMalcontents idea of women as people who need a "guy" to "fulfill their emotional needs" would be more offensive to many women than anything the OP said.

Having said that, in some cases, this *is* the way relationships work. Sex is the reward given by the female for the male behaving in a certain way. Althouth common enough, I believe this to be dysfunctional, though.



How can you profess to know what they're really like if you've never been to one? You could say the same generalization for any career: computer programmers are sad introverts, accountants are dull. These statements say nothing about the career in question, but they say a lot about how we like to offer our opinions on subjects we actually know next to nothing about. I've never turned to prostitutes either, but I can understand why they exist and I don't think it fair to denigrate either the prostitutes or their clients. Realistically, given that it's been around for thousands of years, the vast majority of 'acts of prostitution' have resulted in little harm to anybody apart from the anger engendered in the holier-than-thou, repressed, self-righteous religious fanatics.

If you can't grow your own food, you buy it. Simple as that. Of course the self-sufficient look down on the morally bankrupt who shop at Tescos, but that is the nature of us. The problem is not in the free actions taken by adults, but in the minds of the others who are not content just to accept the difference. No, they have to be scornful to those who behave differently to them.

I don't see any point in prostitution, since I doubt there's any emotional connection involved. If your only goal is sexual gratification, you might as well save your money and use your hands.

Correct, that's what the current ones say. The classic Cybermen (like the one in my avatar) said "destroy" or simply "kill."

In some cases that is definately true. For me it is true. I couldn't go having sex with someone I didn't trust and wasn't comfortable with, but it doesn't apply to everyone. I think it depends on things like confidence and general comfort with other people perhaps. I know women who will happily go and have sex with someone that they have just met because they enjoy it. And yeh I didn't read it as 'needing a guy to fulfill emotional needs' so much as needing that in order to want to sleep with them. Different things.