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02 Feb 2009, 3:12 pm

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:lol: Actually true for both sexes. Trust me plenty of men who now rate wealth in women. It is when they mention material things/ jobs you (i.e. women) have for no good reason! It is a new breed of men, who are quite happy to be the "trophy boyfriend"! :) So equality is finally happening! :lol:


Maybe not really in my culture. Yes, most guys I know here prefer a working girl but it's not an obligatory requirement, I never heard a single guy in my whole life said "I would never date this girl because she's unemployed" , I hear that from the opposite sex more often.

The only very few guys I know that really rate wealth in women are the very handsome hot guys who usually dated tons of girls in their lives. I know such a guy who was given signs from a Emirate princess and he was hoping to develop into something because of her wealth , probably rich guys would seek rich girls too. Apart from those, I never heard an average guy refusing a girl because of her poverty or her unemployment status.

So what are you saying isn't true, at least where I live.



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02 Feb 2009, 3:18 pm

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Thanks, ToadOfSteel I am familiar with the maths term - I was meaning in the grouping of people (like you had F-buddy's etc! :)

How about the following equivalnet of Null set in people form:

"Figment of your imagination"

The "null set" reinforces the whole "dating for engineers" joke in that image...



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03 Feb 2009, 1:51 pm

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Doesn't piss you off when you hear people with non-high physical standards seek only and only for people of typical model-like standards?

I know some girls/guys who are either too overweight , too short or obviously not gorgeous at all who are nagging all time because they want a 'hot' partner. I know couple of overweight girls who keep complaining for not finding a boyfriend , yet they only want a tall good-looking guy with shaved muscularly chest and 6-packs! I know also plenty of non-hot guys with the same attitude and want only hot top-gorgeous girls.

I mean wtf? Why those hotties would even want you in the first place if you don't even meet the half of their physical standards? How would you even find someone if you aren't even willing to make any improvement of you body or making any compromise regarding your partner's standards?


Actually, NO. What pisses ME off is people thinking that because Im not "hawt" that I should know my place and just accept whatever is offered to me whether I want it or not.... :evil: HELL No! I have a rather defiant attitude I admit. I simply have decided that I REFUSE to accept that slot in the social order that was designated for me because by accepting that you're an omega equates to giving up and being submissive. Being submissive is something I cannot tolerate. I see nothing wrong with displacing those above me in order to take their place :twisted: .



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03 Feb 2009, 1:57 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Jwa wrote:
Thanks, ToadOfSteel I am familiar with the maths term - I was meaning in the grouping of people (like you had F-buddy's etc! :)

How about the following equivalnet of Null set in people form:

"Figment of your imagination"

The "null set" reinforces the whole "dating for engineers" joke in that image...

Yes indeed... Although a null set is less "non existent" in common parlance and more "equal to the empty set."


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04 Feb 2009, 2:11 am

Why are beautiful people better?

They're not. There isn't a measure of beauty placed on us when we are born,setting a limit to what we can aim for in a partner.

To a cockroach, all humans are ugly.



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04 Feb 2009, 2:38 am

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Why are beautiful people better?

They're not. There isn't a measure of beauty placed on us when we are born,setting a limit to what we can aim for in a partner.

To a cockroach, all humans are ugly.


Beautiful people arent (objectively)better, but unfortunately everone else seem to think they are..... :?



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04 Feb 2009, 2:40 am

In Darwinism beautiful or aka attractive equals healthy which means healthy offspring.

Although in today's society it's becoming more of a high standard to be beautiful. :wink:


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04 Feb 2009, 2:49 am

frodosam wrote:
Why are beautiful people better?

They're not. There isn't a measure of beauty placed on us when we are born,setting a limit to what we can aim for in a partner.

To a cockroach, all humans are ugly.


This isn't a posting about why physically ugly people are worth less, it's about physically or emotionally ugly people demanding physically or emotionally beautiful people, respectively.

And I agree, it's annoying when people demand a high standard they themselves do not fit (either physically or emotionally). Though they do provide for some hilarious posts on dating sites, i.e. "I'm an unemployed BBW goddess that deserves to be worshipped, but only by at least a 6'2", muscular (think football player) man with a 6-figure job and a Beemer." The best ones are still the creepy, old dudes that demand skinny bimbos 40 years younger than them.

As for me, before you attack me, given the choice between Angelina Jolie and Janeane Garofalo, I'd pick Janeane hands down. I'll pick the intellectual, nerdy-looking gal over the unintelligent, implant-riddled "hottie", any day.



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04 Feb 2009, 3:23 am

People, Aspies and NT's alike are instinctively drawn to people who seem "higher up" than them. This would include physical attributes as well as material standing. The attributes that attract will be dictated by the person's circumstances and intellectual programming. A person that grew up in poverty will always deem a wealthy person as a suitable mate (this is not a fixed rule though, and it does not mean that they are automatically gold diggers). A person that suffered emotional abuse will be drawn to a person that makes them feel safe.

The attraction to people that are physically attractive has a lot more to do with our instinct to enhance our bloodlines. Attractive people always seem healthy and strong with good genes, which makes them attractive. In reality this assumption is fatally flawed, but yet our instinct will keep drawing us to make it again and again.


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04 Feb 2009, 3:50 am

DNForrest wrote:
frodosam wrote:
Why are beautiful people better?

They're not. There isn't a measure of beauty placed on us when we are born,setting a limit to what we can aim for in a partner.

To a cockroach, all humans are ugly.


This isn't a posting about why physically ugly people are worth less, it's about physically or emotionally ugly people demanding physically or emotionally beautiful people, respectively.

And I agree, it's annoying when people demand a high standard they themselves do not fit (either physically or emotionally). Though they do provide for some hilarious posts on dating sites, i.e. "I'm an unemployed BBW goddess that deserves to be worshipped, but only by at least a 6'2", muscular (think football player) man with a 6-figure job and a Beemer." The best ones are still the creepy, old dudes that demand skinny bimbos 40 years younger than them.

As for me, before you attack me, given the choice between Angelina Jolie and Janeane Garofalo, I'd pick Janeane hands down. I'll pick the intellectual, nerdy-looking gal over the unintelligent, implant-riddled "hottie", any day.


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04 Feb 2009, 4:06 am

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Doesn't piss you off when you hear people with non-high physical standards seek only and only for people of typical model-like standards?

I know some girls/guys who are either too overweight , too short or obviously not gorgeous at all who are nagging all time because they want a 'hot' partner. I know couple of overweight girls who keep complaining for not finding a boyfriend , yet they only want a tall good-looking guy with shaved muscularly chest and 6-packs! I know also plenty of non-hot guys with the same attitude and want only hot top-gorgeous girls.

I mean wtf? Why those hotties would even want you in the first place if you don't even meet the half of their physical standards? How would you even find someone if you aren't even willing to make any improvement of you body or making any compromise regarding your partner's standards?


Actually, NO. What pisses ME off is people thinking that because Im not "hawt" that I should know my place and just accept whatever is offered to me whether I want it or not.... :evil: HELL No! I have a rather defiant attitude I admit. I simply have decided that I REFUSE to accept that slot in the social order that was designated for me because by accepting that you're an omega equates to giving up and being submissive. Being submissive is something I cannot tolerate. I see nothing wrong with displacing those above me in order to take their place :twisted: .


Evolutionary speaking, beauty is a sign of better genes but we don't like to admit that.

I do admire your defiant attitude but don't you think it would be hypocritical when you omit 95% of girls in the room (average to good-looking girl) and aim only for the top 'hawt' while you are totally aware that those 5% won't give you the time of the day? Yet when you fail you start nagging to your friends about how you're not finding anyone? I mean c'mon, there must be some logic in mating selection.



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04 Feb 2009, 12:58 pm

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Doesn't piss you off when you hear people with non-high physical standards seek only and only for people of typical model-like standards?

I know some girls/guys who are either too overweight , too short or obviously not gorgeous at all who are nagging all time because they want a 'hot' partner. I know couple of overweight girls who keep complaining for not finding a boyfriend , yet they only want a tall good-looking guy with shaved muscularly chest and 6-packs! I know also plenty of non-hot guys with the same attitude and want only hot top-gorgeous girls.

I mean wtf? Why those hotties would even want you in the first place if you don't even meet the half of their physical standards? How would you even find someone if you aren't even willing to make any improvement of you body or making any compromise regarding your partner's standards?


Actually, NO. What pisses ME off is people thinking that because Im not "hawt" that I should know my place and just accept whatever is offered to me whether I want it or not.... :evil: HELL No! I have a rather defiant attitude I admit. I simply have decided that I REFUSE to accept that slot in the social order that was designated for me because by accepting that you're an omega equates to giving up and being submissive. Being submissive is something I cannot tolerate. I see nothing wrong with displacing those above me in order to take their place :twisted: .


Evolutionary speaking, beauty is a sign of better genes but we don't like to admit that.

I do admire your defiant attitude but don't you think it would be hypocritical when you omit 95% of girls in the room (average to good-looking girl) and aim only for the top 'hawt' while you are totally aware that those 5% won't give you the time of the day? Yet when you fail you start nagging to your friends about how you're not finding anyone? I mean c'mon, there must be some logic in mating selection.


Yes, BUT, I am not omitting 95% of girls, more like 40% of girls :lol: .



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05 Feb 2009, 4:58 am

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:lol: Actually true for both sexes. Trust me plenty of men who now rate wealth in women. It is when they mention material things/ jobs you (i.e. women) have for no good reason! It is a new breed of men, who are quite happy to be the "trophy boyfriend"! :) So equality is finally happening! :lol:


Maybe not really in my culture. Yes, most guys I know here prefer a working girl but it's not an obligatory requirement, I never heard a single guy in my whole life said "I would never date this girl because she's unemployed" , I hear that from the opposite sex more often.

The only very few guys I know that really rate wealth in women are the very handsome hot guys who usually dated tons of girls in their lives. I know such a guy who was given signs from a Emirate princess and he was hoping to develop into something because of her wealth , probably rich guys would seek rich girls too. Apart from those, I never heard an average guy refusing a girl because of her poverty or her unemployment status.

So what are you saying isn't true, at least where I live.


"Money marrys money." Not unless she is the prostituting gold digger type and it has not much to do with looks as you think. Maybe to emotionally immature teenagers. I have been told by people, 'I could get any one I wanted' but why I don't understand or relate to men that are arrogant and stuck up. Just like I can't stand stuck up spoiled women (poor little rich girl) they can all shoove thier monies up their Ass! They expect the world to revolve around them and until they realise it doesn't - they have a break down and get intensive thearpy because they broke a nail and their partner won't take them out to a Restaurant every week no more. Please live in the real world.



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05 Feb 2009, 5:48 am

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:lol: Actually true for both sexes. Trust me plenty of men who now rate wealth in women. It is when they mention material things/ jobs you (i.e. women) have for no good reason! It is a new breed of men, who are quite happy to be the "trophy boyfriend"! :) So equality is finally happening! :lol:


Maybe not really in my culture. Yes, most guys I know here prefer a working girl but it's not an obligatory requirement, I never heard a single guy in my whole life said "I would never date this girl because she's unemployed" , I hear that from the opposite sex more often.

The only very few guys I know that really rate wealth in women are the very handsome hot guys who usually dated tons of girls in their lives. I know such a guy who was given signs from a Emirate princess and he was hoping to develop into something because of her wealth , probably rich guys would seek rich girls too. Apart from those, I never heard an average guy refusing a girl because of her poverty or her unemployment status.

So what are you saying isn't true, at least where I live.


"Money marrys money." Not unless she is the prostituting gold digger type and it has not much to do with looks as you think. Maybe to emotionally immature teenagers. I have been told by people, 'I could get any one I wanted' but why I don't understand or relate to men that are arrogant and stuck up. Just like I can't stand stuck up spoiled women (poor little rich girl) they can all shoove thier monies up their Ass! They expect the world to revolve around them and until they realise it doesn't - they have a break down and get intensive thearpy because they broke a nail and their partner won't take them out to a Restaurant every week no more. Please live in the real world.

:lol: Very good!

But I have to say that "Old money" is neither spoilt nor behaves "world must worship me" and I am talking people with personal helicopters - so yes reasonably rich. It is the football players, some celebrities - and in general "neuve riche" that act and behave as prats.
So more to do with how people are brought up than how rich or poor they were as kids.
There are plenty of spoilt people from all kind of social backgrounds.

P.s. Going to restaurants every week is hardly spoilt- expecting your partner to always pay is though! But most women on WP seem very independent! It is so refreshing! Only half of my female friends have that healthy attitude that men don't owe us anything - relationships are partnerships, not an excuse to exploit men in material terms.



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05 Feb 2009, 9:34 am

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:lol: Actually true for both sexes. Trust me plenty of men who now rate wealth in women. It is when they mention material things/ jobs you (i.e. women) have for no good reason! It is a new breed of men, who are quite happy to be the "trophy boyfriend"! :) So equality is finally happening! :lol:


Maybe not really in my culture. Yes, most guys I know here prefer a working girl but it's not an obligatory requirement, I never heard a single guy in my whole life said "I would never date this girl because she's unemployed" , I hear that from the opposite sex more often.

The only very few guys I know that really rate wealth in women are the very handsome hot guys who usually dated tons of girls in their lives. I know such a guy who was given signs from a Emirate princess and he was hoping to develop into something because of her wealth , probably rich guys would seek rich girls too. Apart from those, I never heard an average guy refusing a girl because of her poverty or her unemployment status.

So what are you saying isn't true, at least where I live.


"Money marrys money." Not unless she is the prostituting gold digger type and it has not much to do with looks as you think. Maybe to emotionally immature teenagers. I have been told by people, 'I could get any one I wanted' but why I don't understand or relate to men that are arrogant and stuck up. Just like I can't stand stuck up spoiled women (poor little rich girl) they can all shoove thier monies up their Ass! They expect the world to revolve around them and until they realise it doesn't - they have a break down and get intensive thearpy because they broke a nail and their partner won't take them out to a Restaurant every week no more. Please live in the real world.


You are telling me to live in the real world?