Will any female here actually admit to liking jerks?

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I don't know and I am too tired at the moment to concentrate where I put it. However, I know I did so wether people accept this or not is up to them.

Lol was this thread ever really on topic? It very quickly degenerated to a feminism argument lol.

I appreciate being tired; however, you cannot apologize into the wind and expect people to hear and accept. If it is not linked, quoted, referenced, repeated or sourced, then there is no application to this conversation because the two element are in no way, shape or form linked together. Do what you will, be aware of the consequences, and try not to take your frustrations out on others. Take care.


M.

Probably my fault.

i've dated as*holes, but i don't like them

Good for you, unless you knew they were as*holes befoore you went out on a date

Seriously, the purpose of dating is to figure who the jerks and as*holes are.

^^ but the real problem is how people act when just 'dating'. Rarely are they expressing their 'inner as*hole' because they think they just might get lucky...

MErle

The beauty of being disingenuous is that when getting what you mentioned is all that your out for, you can act like this superhuman Mr. Wonderful with much greater ease because you don't have particularly well-thought out intentions; your making unwieldy promises but its no sweat because you have no desire to follow through on them anyway. That's where and how the 'a***holes' set the pace of the game, they push the initial meeting 'bar' out of everyone else's reach and ultimately steals venue for better people to meet each other.

I think the other thing that happens with women, and yes - I think this happens with guys as well, that quite often if someone of the opposite sex is really overconfident and coming at you like their God's gift to the earth and like they'd want to get in your pants; on the natural law level, its like physical beauty seems to drug the mind - that kind of braggado is like the ultimate phermone cologne or perfume. In thoughtful people you feel the twinge of physical attraction and the very dynamic of it makes you just turn away nauseous. For people who haven't had the negative side of human nature drilled in or still have less control over themselves than their sexdrive does - they can fall for it pretty easily and what its about is 'Yes, this person's a piece of work, I wouldn't date em - but...I could use em for a ----....not like I have anything better going on right now'.

I have had guy friends who were stereotypical-perfect examples of a***holes (not completely unprincipled, I would have had nothing to do with them but - talked nonstop about getting in girl's pants, so sped up on testosterone that they stuttered, you get the drill) - when girls get with guys like that, the girls who do actually seem charmed by it at least, its a short term and they know its a short term. They get an itch and just say 'Hell, I'll scratch it - why not' just like if a guy were at a college party and a cute little ghetto hoochy was grinding up on them - in the moment they're having fun, she's fun, the guy knows that whatever spark they're having would be dead the second he spoke a single sentence of anything intelligent or straight, lack of liquor could do the same trick and, contemplating it he decides to just go head - make an experience of it, and have a story to tell people for a few more years especially if something crazy does come of it.

For the girls who say that they don't know a guy's an a***hole until they date him - at least for aspies I can believe it, with NT's is possible - NT's I've noticed on average don't have that much more or less ability to read people they just luck out at being in the natural flow and more like other people - but I think its, a sizeable minority of the time, the case for aspies and probably a slight majority of the time for NT's that jerks are just evolutionary junkfood. Your hormones race, your body has you feeling like you'd fail a drug test on on 5 different levels the next day without touching a thing, and the human body does that because the genepool cares far more for whether we'd make strong babies than whether the person we'd make those great babies with is a complete baloon knot and the kids, if they happened, would grow up in such a broken home that they'd be too maladapted not to end up either pregnant or in juvenile detention by 14 - this is just a huge nasty stretch of the human condition that we have to fight with and our culture is still struggling to come to terms with where we're supposed to find our balance between human and animal.

there are 3 kind of people in this world: p*****s, dicks and as*holes....

I thought dick and as*hole was the same thing but different words like dumb and stupid mean the same thing but they are both different words.

No no. This topic was explored in depth in Team America: World Police.

Definitely an authoritative source.

Merle

Na, dicks will f**k you over, but as*holes actually give a s**t. p*****s and as*holes are pretty tight.

Very good! You summarise it very well! I couldn't agree with you more. You are spot on!
I think however, the as*hole specie is in minority and don't seem to end up in long term relationships (don't know whether that is by choice - who would want to be with someone so untrustworthy longterm anyway!
The reality is unless the girls are very naive - they can see through such a guys charms - and it is nothing more than - yeah why not - he is hot. So why are we labelling such guys as "as*holes" ! I guess we still think there is something ammoral about lying your way into someones pants.

I have met many as*holes - could detect them from a mile - they are pretty obvious - only been fooled by one - but that was under pretence of friendship (oh don't ask it is so bad it is laughable! I don't think the guy was really an as*hole - he connects with people the best he can - pretty poor connection in my opinion -but there we go. There are plenty of lovely people in this world. It would be sad to change your view towards people due to a small minorty of people - who think all is fair in "sex and getting into girls pants". What an expression - it is like it is a prize or somthing - sex is two way thing and should always be fun! I don't get this blame thing - nor do I get this "why do girls like jerks" thing. What is the big deal - it is two consenting adults.
You wouldn't leave $100 note for a stranger (some one you just started dating and hardly know) to steal so why do you treat your heart as less precious commodity!
Worse case scenario, someone fools you - laugh it off and move on - life is too short for regrets!

Yep, evolutionary junk food.



I really just don't expect much from the world around me. I see lots and lots of good people completely go to waste - whether getting into bad relationships, abusive relationships, some who married a financial vampire, others who just get ignored indefinitely and don't meet anyone. I kind of get the impression that person merit has little or no say in this on any angle. Even some of my favorite radio hosts, people I think are beacons and paragons of clarity, they've been through multiple divorces themselves and they specifically *pride themselves* on going to all ends to understand the human condition, understand people better, and putting their ego a very distant second.