need help sooo badly

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i am very good at puzzles but cannot seem to solve the puzzle of a specific girls mind in my school. i usualy can read others like a book, and manipulate them for kicks. but, the one girl i am romantically interested in hates me and considers me a stalker, and ive never so much as looker her in the eye, but she hates me for reasons beyond me. so any help would be welcome. (she is a texan if that helps at all, but i doubt it)

People are not puzzles, and generally don't seem to appreciate being treated as such. Logic doesn't apply when looking at individuals... too many variables, and action isn't often dictated by logic. As for changing her impression, that can only come with time and allowing it to evolve - not forcing it. You cannot plug in a value and suddenly she will think you're the best thing since sliced bread or the wheel; the mutual nature of relationships makes it very challenging.


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you mean to say people arent objects to be used for my own entertainment?

You probably just remind her of someone, that's usually why we hate someone without reason.
She might get over it.

Of course they are, don't be silly, the trick is not to let *them* know it.

Anyway, being the responsible adult that I am, I feel inclined to say that you should treat all people reverently, study them from afar, and never ever attempt to come to any logical understanding of them because they are all individuals and thus impossible for a mere mortal such as you to ever understand.

To be honest, I have found that studying people as though they are puzzles using your logic faculties gets results like nothing else does, but you musnt ever abuse your powers or start thinking you're better than other people (cause you're not, figuring out how people tick doesn't make you god - it makes you a psychologist, and there's more than one psychologist in the world, believe me), because that's when people will turn on you and start hating you for it.

Also, manipulating people is a no no unless what you're doing either isn't causing the other person any harm, or is beneficial to them in some way. You should also not be "manipulating people just for kicks" - that's an abuse of power. Remember that.

If you've figured out how people work enough to improve your own life, then you are one of the lucky ones and you should never take it for granted.

As for the girl who thinks you're a stalker, and other girls at your school, I'd like you to try using your logic some more and we'll see if you can figure it out. I'll give you a hint - look at your own body language and your actions in relation to girls. She says you're a stalker - why? There's always a reason, and you need to figure it out. Maybe you look at girls too long while you're spacing out. Maybe it's stuff you say about girls that they later find out about. Maybe it's your appearance, or how close/far away you stand to girls. Maybe you actually are following her about (which is the original definition of a stalker in the first place).

Figuring out girls is one of the hardest puzzles - take it as a challenge.

When you manipulate people for fun and get accusations of stalking, it makes you sound like a psychopath. You probably want to avoid that.

You're either a troll, or have a truly reprehensible outlook on life. Either way, I have no interest in helping you talk round this Texan chick.

point of view, point of view...
if youve gone through the same daily torture as i do, youd understand how fun it is to bend people unwittingly to do your bidding...mwahahaha... and hey, if i make a couple hundred bucks doin so why should i care?
but hey, you all have a right to your opinions... and whats a con gig or two between friends
and you people dont understand- my entire life is devoted to making as much money as possible because thats how my dad raised me. money is power, arum est potenus, etc. i simply love maniulating people, i suppose thats one of my 5 copeing mechanisims. 1: drugs 2:italian beef 3:making money 4:alchohol 5:manipulation

Yes, a sociopathic point of view; obviously it isn't going to win you any friends. If that's how your dad raised you, maybe you should consider not listening to him.

hmmm i believe my diagnosis is as follows
aspergers, hyperlexia, & oppositional defiant disorder... but my uncle had antisocial personality disorder...
and btw, did you know the term "sociopath" was split into antisocial & phycopath personality disorders? they discontinued the term

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I don't recall saying it wasn't fun - I said it was reprehensible. There's a difference. It might be great fun raping hookers to death as well for all I know, doesn't mean it's right, though.

And if you're trying to imply you have had some kind of broken family childhood and a psycho father then I'd have more sympathy if you didn't seem to very proud of that fact.

Congratulations on apparently being a psychopath.

i respond to that, good sir, with this famout quote. "i disagree strongly to that statement but would die to defend your right to say it."

I really don't care what your diagnostic labels are; a sociopathic attitude is still a sociopathic attitude. It means an attitude that rationalizes hostile or exploitative behavior towards others in general, and if at 13 you're already drinking heavily, smoking, doing drugs, and conning others, you're setting yourself on a trajectory to be a sociopathic adult; and they usually wind up in prison.

Obviously no one here is going to be inclined to help someone like that take advantage of women.

Y'all's postin in a TROLL THREAD

Provided you're not a troll, there's your help from me. I'd avoid you, too, and I'm also capable of the things you speak of. I just don't use them against people, I like to help people.

I have some sad news for you, son -- this, coupled with your statements about running "cons" gives you a pretty high probability of going to jail soon and often.

I'm not sure that much can be done for you -- on one hand, you are 13 (assuming your profile is truthful, which might be a stretch), and that pretty much is the as*hole age for boys. At age 13, most boys are pretty dysfunctional and have a pretty unrealistic expectation of the world and how they should interact with it.

However.... If you persist in your mindset, and if you really do have the issues you describe, you almost certainly will be in the 1-3% of the population that will be institutionalized. You have to ask yourself now -- given what goes on in jail (male rape and beatings), do you really want this to be your future? You almost certainly will be caught, and once in the system, you'll never be the same again.