Aspie and Two-Spirited (i.e. Gay) The rules all change!

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I suppose it's too late for us all to just join hands and sing a friendly chorus of "Kumbaya"...

I do have a part in this thread - to condemn and disown homosexuality and those who take part in the abominable act.

To each their own. *claps Sirmadness on the shoulder* Personally, I think you're an aaaalllllright dude, Sir.

He was asking for help in the thread. So if you want to go off on your own crusade against the great evil that is homosexuals, then you have every right to create your own thread. So stop derailing this one.

I agree with Stallion. Your posts don't contribute anything to this thread, so you should go make your own thread about the morality of homosexuality, if you really feel so strongly about it. Also, the manner in which you have decided to bring up this matter is highly insensitive and inappropriate.

Since you are an Aspie, you should try doing one of the many things that an Aspie must learn to do: put yourself in another's shoes.

I don't think people who consider themselves homosexuals, should say "I'm homosexual".(How can they be sure?) It's in a more or less degree, just like the abstract terms NT and AS. Or even APD(Antisocial Personality Disorder)

Get off my back.

Go away.

NOW!

Grr...I am fortunate enough to come from a country where people are not so arrogant as to presume they know the 'right' way to live over another...and even though I think your opinion is incredibly hurtful, and ignorant, I would not even presume to tell you that I think you're an abominable human being. I hope you realize that you have hurt me. But realize more that I have also been picked on by many many other people besides you, and I no longer really care if you think I'm an abomination or whatever. I deserve to live and be human and I have a right to life and happiness...and you're telling me that I don't...so I would really choose my words carefully if I were you, buster. I don't tell you not to choose girls...and I'm not going to advocate that you should choose boys either...it took me a very very very VERY VERY long time to acccept this about myself...and it SHOULDN'T have. I'm not trying to convert you, or your friends into being gay.

I JUST WANT TO BE HAPPY!! !! !! !!

I JUST WANT TO FIND A SOULMATE AND LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE WITHOUT FEELING LONELY AND EMPTY JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!! !

And if you don't like it....



Then I really...don't give a #$%#.

Thank you to everyone who had something of substance to contribute to this thread, I appreciate it. Please continue.

well, I read in the "read this before posting" thread , that offensive language regarding homophobic manner is against the rules.

First off, re: sirmadness' question, I'd check out online personals, social-networking websites (I've met gay people with AS through okcupid.com), and see if you have any LGBT groups in your area. Look for gay-oriented organizations that have things to with art, writing, or some other interest you might have. You might also try seeking advice for less "clubby" meeting spots from gay websites; not only AS homosexuals have a dislike for certain aspects of gay culture. In any case, it'll take some time to get adjusted to things, don't give up right away. I'm 22 and going through a similar situation ATM, feel free to PM me (though I don't check my account often).

And now, for your feature presentation: beating a dead horse.

Homosexuality is a disgusting, un-profiting venture catering to hedonists and sexual deviants.

Gee, you know I don't think most people are in it for the money...

I'm just apalled that such a disgusting practice is excused on these forums.

As your post makes obvious, even the mere discussion of related issues is not exactly excused - any member can, if they wish, judge another's actions and post about it. Furthermore, it's obvious we couldn't put an outright ban on something as subjective as "disgusting and appalling discussion" since it would not only threaten discussions like this, but also open up comments like yours for potential deletion. As disgusting and appalling (and amusing) as your comments might be to me, I'd rather people not forget that those with viewpoints such as yourself still exist and let your comment stand and reflect on your character as it does (which is poorly).

I think Lunatix is courageous for speaking out in such a politically incorrect way however inopportune his timing was.

It's not just "inopportune timing", it's entirely irrelevant to the conversation at hand, which centers around homosexual dating. It would be like someone asking where they could find a good hummus recipe and lunatix coming into the conversation saying that hummus tastes like s**t and you shouldn't be eating garbonzo beans anyway...I mean, the comment is still about hummus, but it's not exactly helping anyone out. Since this thread isn't "Do you think homosexuality is moral/aesthetic/profitable?", I don't really think it's appropriate. Though it's fine to allow, it seems silly to encourage.

I don't think people who consider themselves homosexuals, should say "I'm homosexual". (How can they be sure?) It's in a more or less degree, just like the abstract terms NT and AS.

While I agree that sexuality is a spectrum and have reservations about labeling, just as with AS it can serve a very useful purpose: it gives people a rough framework of what sort of actions to expect from an individual and doesn't usually cause harm assuming you don't hold people rigidly to your expectations. I've pretty much settled on bisexual even though I've never dated (not that I wouldn't) and have more same-sex attraction. I've considered homosexual and asexual, but bisexual has some much-appreciated leeway. One could just as easily (and non-productively) debate whether a color should be classified as yellow-green or green-yellow as far as I'm concerned.

suppose it's too late for us all to just join hands and sing a friendly chorus of "Kumbaya"...

It's never too late! Come on, everyone! Lunatix, join in! "Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya..." (A disclaimer: you will probably never catch me doing that IRL).

Lunatix, you are a biggot... Going by your line "I'm appaulled this is allowed to take place on these forums", I'll bet your a stupid psycho-christian republican. You go around waving your flag yelling about how if someone disagrees with you or the president theyr somehow less American.
I got a news flash, an American isn't defined by race, RELIGION, sexual oreintation, ciuntry of birth, disability, or anything. An American is ANYONE who is a citizen here who has the courage to speak theyr mind, rather you agree or not! This is my America, though your America probably looks alot more like Nazi Germany. Here in America all religions (or lack thereof) are SUPPOSED to be equal.

AN AMERICAN ATHEIST
Snake

well MY opinion is that people who have lunatix's opinion are disgusting.

Sirmadness, I hope you hold your head up high through your experiences interacting in the gay world. It can be quite difficult to be learning about yourself, while also learning in a new culture. I hope you go easy on yourself and don't think badly of yourself if you make a few faux pas here and there. I explored my potential for gayness in that enviroment in my late twenties. If you allow the learning process to effect your self esteem you will leave yourself open to exploitation and other kinds of abuse. Be kind to yourself.

(Note: it was hard to write this post with out dropping an entire wars worth of F-Bombs)

Sirmadness, I feel for you man. I'm straight, but I can't figure out women. (The scary thing is that I might actually understand them pretty well, but it just doesn't mean much but that's a topic for another thread)

Everywhere you look sex is being thrown in your face (it doesn't count when you're looking for it). If you're not banging someone than your looked down on. You try to find a relationship, but everywhere you look is this big swirling chaotic mass that you're supposed to magically figure out. And again, because you can't people look down on you.

Then you've got all the ignorant f*cks out there *waves to them* that want to destroy you just because you're a little different. 'Oh no! Two dudes are kissing. The sky is falling and we are all going to die.'

I'm sure if more people knew what Asperger's Syndrome was, I'd be under a constant barrage of attacks for it too.


So you've got pretty much the same problems I do, and the fact that Homophobia is popular right now.


And I'm going to be honest, I am a tad on the homophobic side. Gay people do weird me out a little. But I actually recognize that's my problem. Anyone who suggest otherwise I'm leaning towards the 'Throw matches at them' reaction.


And you know, I think you probably are brave. I bet you where afraid of asses and people holding a negative opinion simply for saying who you are. And yet you post anyways.

That takes some serious strength. Whatever value or lack there of some twit's stupid posts actually have, you on some level probably assigned a far greater amount then there actually is.

Or maybe not. Whatever. It still seems brave.