Why does homosexuality exist?

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07 Jul 2009, 5:27 pm

Ehh I think humans are normally bisexual, but the preference in the sexuality shifts over time depending on a variety of reasons, including hormonal/genetic and situational circumstances. Rather than trying to come up with a reason of how homosexuality exists, I think that it has existed in higher organisms for quite some time, and it's merely the repression of homosexuality that makes heterosexuality in humans appear to be the prevailing norm. Homosexual activity is prevalent among higher organisms, including other primates as has been mentioned before, and I tend to think that the idea that homosexual activity reduces intraspecies aggression among males in a population is on the right track. If people think that homosexuality is detrimental to passing their genes along to the next generation, then I think that is a simplistic assessment of homosexuality as a whole. Compared to lower animals, it takes an incredibly long time for humans to reach sexual maturity, over 10 years! There needs to be some biological mechanism in place to reduce competition between males, otherwise they'd be dead well before they ever reach the developmental stage when they would be capable of passing their genes to the next generation.

The way I see it, homosexual activity reduces intraspecies aggression by demonstrating to both people involved that they can be put in a vulnerable position without being in mortal danger. It's the ultimate way of showing that you don't mean any harm to another person.

I think that the reason you don't see homosexuality dying out, is because people are bisexual and thus even the "normal" heterosexual acts genetically pass the homosexual behaviors down to the next generation as well. It's just that a variety of things like prevailing culture repress the homosexual side of people, in a way similar to AS folks repressing emotions to the point that some Aspies think that they no longer feel and no longer have emotions. Honestly I don't think it's genetic for people to be 100% homosexual or 100% heterosexual for their entire sexual lives, just as AS is a continuum and extremes on either end are detrimental to the individual. Sexuality is fluid, and it goes where it goes.


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07 Jul 2009, 6:50 pm

its all a matter of the mind and how the body.. works... sometimes males feel femine and they do crazy things


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07 Jul 2009, 7:31 pm

Kinsey Scale :)

http://www.iub.edu/~kinsey/research/ak-hhscale.html

Kinda like the AS spectrum :)



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07 Jul 2009, 9:05 pm

lack of action with the opposite gender while in a period of sexual urge? <.<



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07 Jul 2009, 9:12 pm

I know people will be angry that I say this but I feel homosexuality is a choice. It's just one of those things people choose to be like what their career is, who their friends are, what their hobbies are, ect. I don't believe people are born that way, there is no proof of it and people have been married in heterosexual relationships for years and just choose to go down that path several years later just like that. Remember folks, this is just my opinion. I'll admit, I really don't care either way because it's something that has nothing to do with me anyways.



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08 Jul 2009, 7:54 am

So you could have chosen to enjoy having a cock up your arse, Homer_Bob?

You must be bisexual at least.

"Heterosexual" married men who come out and get a divorce were not straight to begin with. They were in denial. Most gay people go through that in their teens. Fr some it takes longer. That's all it is. It's not a choice to be gay.

What more proof do you need than your own experience? You're relling trying to say that you "chose" to be attracted to women but could easily have chosen to want to have sex with men? Hmm.. Weird.



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08 Jul 2009, 8:37 am

I wasn't talking about myself, I was using the word "you" to describe others behavior? I guess I better edit that message.



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08 Jul 2009, 3:02 pm

So you admit that you had no choice over your own sexual orientation, but for some reason you think other people do? :?



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08 Jul 2009, 9:43 pm

I never said that. Where did I say that? I want to be with girls my whole life and that's it. Is that my choice? Absolutely. Being straight is normal. Until science shows me that people are born gay (and it hasn't) I don't have to believe it if I don't want to. I think being born that way is just an excuse. I knew that when I said homosexuality was a choose, someone had to argue. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just stating my opinion. The End.



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08 Jul 2009, 9:49 pm

A choice is a decision you make consciously. Like, "Do I go left or right?" At what point did you choose to become straight vs. gay?



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08 Jul 2009, 9:50 pm

I don't feel like debating, my opinion is my opinion. This is all I have to say about this subject.



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08 Jul 2009, 9:53 pm

But I'm not questioning your opinion nor have I tried to invalidate it. I am just curious if there was a point in your life if you made a conscious choice to become straight?



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19 Jul 2009, 5:01 am

Homer_Bob wrote:
I want to be with girls my whole life and that's it. Is that my choice? Absolutely.

What is the choice you made?

Up until now you never had a crush on a guy or were physically attracted to a man. But you do enjoy love and sex with women, and you want to per-sue that kind of love your entire live. To me that sounds like you are a very healthy heterosexual. You like girls, you do not like guys. That is not a choice, that's a preference.

Or were you once /are you attracted to a guy, and decided not to give in to those feelings? Then why did you make that decision?

Homer_Bob wrote:
Being straight is normal.

So is being gay. Straight is just more common.

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Until science shows me that people are born gay (and it hasn't)

Science has indeed not 'ultimately' proven that you are born gay, but there are many other proofs to come to that conclusion.

But why do you have to be born gay? Why couldn't it be also something that you become aware of later in life, when that other person comes into your life? I've seen it happen.

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I don't have to believe it if I don't want to.

You obviously do not have to come to the same conclusion. That just helps to keep science going.

Homer_Bob wrote:
I think being born that way is just an excuse.

The concept of needing an excuse to love someone, is completely alien to me. Please explain.

Homer_Bob wrote:
I knew that when I said homosexuality was a choose, someone had to argue. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just stating my opinion. The End.


Why don't you want to change your opinion? You should only change your opinion if you are convinced that what you previously thought is wrong.

Unfortunately is what you and others think of this subject important. Because we live in democracies that withhold many rights and securities from homo- and bisexual people. In my conviction are the decisions to allow that not made on facts, because people don't want to know them. Sad...



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19 Jul 2009, 8:57 am

I am sorry to sound "old fashioned"

Well, actually I am not sorry at all. In my book homosexuality is a perversion. Period.

It is against natural law and God's law.



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19 Jul 2009, 10:09 am

Why do we have so many repetitive topics about homosexuality? -.- Is it THAT outlandish? ><



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19 Jul 2009, 11:19 am

Apparently. I personally find it amazing how many people here have studied natural law for their entire life and determined that homosexuality is against it, and have had direct messages from God that tell them that it is wrong. Let me tell ya, you really can't use the Bible to defend your position. It contradicts itself so much, and is misinterpreted so much, that only someone trying to defend a blind position would use it. I find that people who dislike homosexuals in this fashion don't dislike it for a reason, it's because they like to discriminate, just like when racism was the biggest deal, and people hated black people, saying they were hated by God, meant to be slaves, and were primitive animals. It's just someone trying to hurt someone else for a reason that has no real foundation.