What's Up With All This Attractive Stuff?

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Well kudos to the men who go against the stereotype and do talk about how they feel. If you don't talk about it then the relationship quickly becomes one sided. The woman feels like she's doing all the emotional work of holding it together and she hits burn out pretty fast. She supports her partner but there's no one there to support her. That was a huge issue in why my marriage fell apart.

As far as I understand, most US marriages fall apart.

Good thing I don't live in the US.

I think it's really runny that someone going through a really rough time gets overlooked, belittled, or worse without people so much as aknowledging what's going on. I remember this guy who fell into the category. He lets the people he was working with know how he was feeling (overwhelmed), they said it wasn't their problem. He shoots himself in the head, they suddenly had no idea of what he was going through, imagine that.

Someone else threatens to jump off a watertower a few weeks prior, not only does she announce it, but the moment she has a crowd, she climbs back down. There's a bias going on alright, but it takes two to tango, alot of the guys I know are biased towards the physically attractive females, not matter what kind of stunts they want to pull.

I know girls want a detached guy, but how do you act detached when somebody is obviously attractive. My body language has a tendency to give me away.

This is almost an unmeasurable criteria, you can't know how many people attempted suicide, maybe only the self-reported and reported_by_others ones. Since men are less likely to talk about their problems, then they are less likely to talk/report their attempt of suicide too.

Most people who commit suicide don't do it at the first time , usually the subject attempts to do it (attempts in mind is counted too) several times before he finally does it. So if men are more likely commit suicide then they are more likely to attempt suicide overall.


Besides, committing suicide happens when one doesn't bear the pain anymore while successively attempting suicides is more like an attention cry.

So

Committing suicide = ending pain

ALWAYS attempting suicide and then self-report it(usually to friends/family) and crying about it = desperate call for attention/affection/care.

That's logical, if "women have had a higher rate of attempting suicide." that's because are more like to vent their emotional problems than me , and attempting suicide is usually just an extreme type of venting.

Besides, as I said before , men usually don't talk about their problems, so if they attempted to commit suicide then they are more likely to hide it.

deja vu

Suicide facts and figures

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Didn't do the research especially for this, it's actually part of my masters dissertation so I haven't included the full refs, which are lost somewhere in a harvard referenced list with billions of others.

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder and as such is subjective anyway. The nice guys and jerks thing crops up here every week, never gets resolved and just spawns a lot of terrible generalising and pseudo-science theorising to try and explain away the whims of dating and the absolutely unknowable reasons why you can't make the people you like like you back, even if you believe you deserve it. Pets are more rewarding.

I'm a bit grumpy today

Well put. And just for the record.....I don't give a f**k!

Hrmph, i do whine about stuff i don't like, i think it's legitimate. -.- Of course, this attracts the ire of my family. Mostly my brother and father.

Nah, I still give a f*** in general.

Well Im going to list what I care and dont care about in general and about girls, and lets see if I care too much.

I care about:
Me
Family
People's feelings (if i hurt them or not)
Sometimes what people say about me (we all do dont we?)
My success Sometimes if I'm weird in a girls POV.
whether a girl I like likes me or not, but I never let her know because i dont think its necessary.

I dont care about:
A lot of stuf
Immature people and immature girls
People who don't care about me



I think that's enuff not to care about...if women like guys who have to show they don't care by acting stupid, being jerks, cussing, acting like they are the s**t, acting like they are better than girls and everyone else, or acting gangsta or bad boy....then thats rediculous.
I dont think people should have to show they dont care. if someone doesnt give a f**k that they dont give a f**k, i think itll show if they never talk about their feelings of unecessary stuff or stuff that may seem unecessary to others.
But it doesnt matter...we care about what we care about....f**k it.

Treat em mean keep em keen concept.

Girls don't go for "jerks", they go for confidence and assertiveness. It's not about looks, or the fact they're a "jerk". The only reason jerks get women is because they posess these qualities.

Nice men who posess them also get women.

So much talk on here about nice guys, jerks, attractivness, etc... that everyone's missing the biggest reason they have trouble getting dates. SOCIAL RELEVANCE. If you don't have a social network with lots of friends, taking you to lots of social functions, where you meet lots of new people, then being a super-attractive jerk counts for nothing. All these qualities only matter if you're on the radar in the first place.

One girl I met online asked, "why do you have to meet women online?", "aren't women coming onto you all the time?".

My response: "what women?"

I feel like I can suppress, overcome, etc. my introverted ways. Not ugly(at least that's what women tell me) and have seen enough guys who naturally attract women(not jerk-offs) to know how to be in relation to women. Developing and maintaining a social network seems so far out of reach for me. Many of the women I have met see this as a negative which I understand. So starting a relationship with a woman require getting over a huge hurdle for one in that we are usually mere acquaintances and also this does not give me great insight to the woman's personality. This is my dilemma.

Dating guys is so much easier than dating girls. I honestly feel kinda lucky I dodged the bullet, no offense, ladies.