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kaixo
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05 Apr 2005, 4:03 am

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I tend to be the same way with women I feel strongly about, and I would be surprised if this didn't have something to do with Asperger's Syndrome. I have managed to avoid such obsessions recently, however, as I have become increasingly cautious in allowing myself to have feelings for women.

One of the things that I find the most attractive in a woman is knowing that she has strong feelings for me or admires some aspect of my personality. Since I have recently dealt with a string of women who thought I was "perfect" until meeting me in person, I tend not to take a potential relationship too seriously until I have a very clear indication from the woman that her feelings are genuine.

It seriously distresses me to find how much emphasis most women place on something as superficial as social poise, but I suppose it is merely the instinctual counterpart to most men's fixation on physical attraction. In any event, it all serves to reinforce the notion that my perpetual feeling of alienation is justified.



jayshaw: this reminds me so much, stylistically, of something my "possibility" would say. not a frequent occurence in my life, having a possibility, but i am finding him to be very asperger-esque. your speech, and general thoughts on this subject are so similar, they could have come from his own mouth. i do believe he is leaning towards the spectrum and undiagnosed. extreme INTJ. not sure what your myers-briggs type is, but it is really just uncanny (yet not uncanny at all, in many ways.)



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05 Apr 2005, 6:32 am

I think this is broarder than just romantic relationships. Actually I don't think, I know.



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05 Apr 2005, 1:12 pm

yeah, i guess it is. i used to all the time then taught myself not to get attached so much because it will just end up hurting worst in the end.
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05 Apr 2005, 3:35 pm

This is why I would rather a fellow aspie similar to myself. (Female of course.)



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05 Apr 2005, 3:40 pm

speaking of which, do you ladies prefer aspie or NT?
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05 Apr 2005, 6:42 pm

axelkat: i don't think i could deal with an nt.



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05 Apr 2005, 7:31 pm

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i do believe he is leaning towards the spectrum and undiagnosed. extreme INTJ. not sure what your myers-briggs type is, but it is really just uncanny (yet not uncanny at all, in many ways.)


I scored ISTJ. The I and T were very extreme, while the S and J were more moderate. I'm glad to hear that you have a prospective boyfriend that you find promising. I hope things develop well between the two of you.



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06 Apr 2005, 5:55 pm

I invariably become obsessed with the object of my affections. It doesn’t seem to be something I can change and it feels natural to be this way. When I have feelings for a woman, I constantly think of her and she never leaves my thoughts for more than a few minutes. Withholding my feelings has also been difficult. I as well have committed the mistake of blurting out my most private thoughts and feelings prematurely. Since this has never yielded a positive result and has only brought rejection, I have had to learn some restraint. I somewhat understand the ideas of ‘being hard to get’ and manipulating sexual tension. However, I have no intention of ever acting in such a manner, as I find it repulsive. For myself to act that way would be just that: an act. I am who I am and desire to be loved for who I am, warts and all. Personally, I would be quite turned off if a woman wanted me to act like a neo-Romeo fresh from the self-help aisle of the local bookstore. Perhaps someday I will again encounter one as forthright as myself, who indulges only in limited courtship games. These persons do exist, they are the type I have had relationships with in the past.

Romantic obsessions have been both positive and negative in my life. For instance, I remain obsessed with and attached to a woman long after the relationship is over. Because of this, I have never found the ability to ‘move on’ without having someone else to ‘move on’ to. Becoming involved in another relationship has been the only way to ‘cure’ my obsession with the last. Time doesn’t heal all wounds, as some believe.

In my current life, I am still obsessing over and dissecting incidents and behavior from a relationship that ended over a decade ago. In one way, this is positive: I am attempting to learn from my past mistakes and become a better person who is more capable of sustaining a fulfilling, long-term relationship. In another way, it is harmful: Continuous obsessing on lost loves is a painful experience and has led to my feeling at times depressed, shameful, and guilt ridden.

Obsession is so much a part of my character, I cannot think of being free of it.



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06 Apr 2005, 6:40 pm

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Obsession is so much a part of my character, I cannot think of being free of it.


I hear that one, synchro. I can't imagine what my life would be without obsessions. It seems as though it would feel much emptier than it is now, though.



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06 Apr 2005, 6:54 pm

obsessions are artificial friends. not as good as the real thing but just fine for the time being.
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06 Apr 2005, 10:22 pm

I've had a few obsessions. I got rejected by my first. I thought persistance solved all problems, so for all of 7th grade I asked out the same person everyday. It didn't work. All the ones after that were friends that I've been afraid to approach. Poetry helped me get the thoughts out of my head, but after being obsessed after a month or two, I now become less obsessive. :)


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07 Apr 2005, 11:57 pm

Hmmmm...I am an awful lot like Synchro. I realize that playing hard to get and hiding one's feelings is the "normal" way to do things, but I don't want to play those games, and I don't want to be with someone who expects me to. Likewise with the obsessive aspect...

With other obsessional areas, I have had dry spots...where I wasn't obsessed. I felt very empty and almost desperate for somethign interesting to becoem obsessed with again. When I'm caught up in an obsession, I feel alive, invigorated. My mind has something to focus on. Otherwise, it becomes a messy tangle of assorted thoughts.



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08 Apr 2005, 4:01 pm

JayShaw wrote:
I scored ISTJ. The I and T were very extreme, while the S and J were more moderate.

We're twins! :) My S and J were both 1%, with the I and T out on the extremes.


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08 Apr 2005, 5:26 pm

I do get obsessed with my crushes, and i'ts not all that easy. :roll: I loose interest in anyone besides the person in my focus at the time. Usually it lasts for years, but sometimes for shorter periods too. The scary part is that I know so well, and I see all the "wrong" things I do, like not playing hard to get and so on, but unable to do something about it. And people tell me to stop thinking about this person, and I want to myself too, but it feels impossible.
Some men may be very pleased with this situation, but if they incurrage something without meaning it seriosly, it can cause a lot of difficult feelings.



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08 Apr 2005, 6:19 pm

JayShaw wrote:
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i do believe he is leaning towards the spectrum and undiagnosed. extreme INTJ. not sure what your myers-briggs type is, but it is really just uncanny (yet not uncanny at all, in many ways.)


I scored ISTJ. The I and T were very extreme, while the S and J were more moderate. I'm glad to hear that you have a prospective boyfriend that you find promising. I hope things develop well between the two of you.


What do these initials mean?
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09 Apr 2005, 2:08 pm

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What do these initials mean?


They are results from a personality type test that measures Introversion/Extroversion, Thinking/Feeling, Intuition/Sensing, and Judging/Perceiving.

I consistently test as INTJ.

Here’s a site with many different tests. Look under Jung tests.