What would be the worst place to take someone on a date?

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17 Aug 2011, 11:29 am

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I was agreeing with you Lancastrian.


Is this a reference to my Flickr account? :)

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Although I have to admit, the latter part of your sentence, i.e. being seen as easy, just wouldn't occur to me.


I'm thinking more of the dimmer, chubbier women personally when I say that.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:33 am

Tequila wrote:
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I was agreeing with you Lancastrian.


Is this a reference to my Flickr account? :)

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Although I have to admit, the latter part of your sentence, i.e. being seen as easy, just wouldn't occur to me.


I'm thinking more of the dimmer, chubbier women personally when I say that.



It's in reference to your geographical location. :P

And.... how chubby or not do you think I am? Don't assuuuume.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:33 am

Tequila wrote:
Henbane wrote:
I was agreeing with you Lancastrian.


Is this a reference to my Flickr account? :)

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Although I have to admit, the latter part of your sentence, i.e. being seen as easy, just wouldn't occur to me.


I'm thinking more of the dimmer, chubbier women personally when I say that.


What does weight have to do with being easy?


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17 Aug 2011, 11:34 am

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Although I have to admit, the latter part of your sentence, i.e. being seen as easy, just wouldn't occur to me.


I'm thinking more of the dimmer, chubbier women personally when I say that.
;-) Hey, as a dim, chubby girl, I take offense to being lumped in with being 'easy'. (Unless, of course, you mean 'not high-maintenance' rather than 'promiscuous'. ;-p)



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17 Aug 2011, 11:34 am

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Quite possibly, I'm still planning my route - the only guidelines I have is that it should primarily NOT be on major roads or highways


You can do this but it will be very convoluted. Most people use these to get about. What counts as a major road? A-roads are major roads, for instance. I can understand you wanting to avoid motorways.

Have you ever heard of the series B-Road Britain that was on ITV1 a couple of years ago, hosted by Robbie Coltraine? There might be something in that for you to look at. I'd give you a list of places, but yes, my dear old Ribble Valley is beautiful, with the Forest of Bowland. Don't go to any grot spots like Blackburn though, 'cos they're dire. ;)

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I'd like to buy dinner and/or a pint for a few WPers if I get a chance too...


Don't buy me dinner, or a pint. Do you drink beer yourself? Craft beer swap would be an excellent idea. ;)

(The text under my username doesn't lie, you know.) ;)

The other point is though that if you travel around too much, you don't get the proper feel of the place. I spent about three weeks in Northern Ireland to get a proper feel of the place. A lot of the country needs a considerable amount of time if you want to get to know them properly. There are parts of the country that are probably best avoided though.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:36 am

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What does weight have to do with being easy?


Many men make a link between overweightness = unhappiness/low self-esteem, and many women like food as pleasure. I'm not saying it's always accurate when I say it (and I'd understand why you might reject this!), just how a lot of guys think.

Sometimes it actually works, too, although I'd never do it. And if someone made pointed comments about my weight and then said they'd take me to the chip shop, I'd tell them to get stuffed like people here.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:46 am

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Many men make a link between overweightness = unhappiness/low self-esteem, and many women like food as pleasure. I'm not saying it's always accurate when I say it (and I'd understand why you might reject this!), just how a lot of guys think.

Sometimes it actually works, too, although I'd never do it. And if someone made pointed comments about my weight and then said they'd take me to the chip shop, I'd tell them to get stuffed like people here.


Ahh, I get it now.

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It's more like taking a woman to the local kebab house - yes, it's fast food but usually without the 'commercial' connotation of Bugger King et al. While it's often a better option than McDonald's or KFC it's still fast food and isn't particularly romantic. Also, see my post above.


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No, there's a difference between picking a chippy because that's all you can afford or that's what the other person feels comfortable doing or doing it because the man thinks the woman is 'easy' or doesn't want to spend a lot of money on her.


I agree.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:52 am

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It's about who you're with, yes...but relationships are also about actually wanting to please the other person and impress them to an extent, because you care. Assuming the person has enough money to spend on his date, I would have thought he'd think she's worth spending money on (LOTS AND LOTS!! ! :P). If he's someone who always wants to split exactly in half, or be stingy with money when he can afford more - that would say to me he doesn't value me much and doesn't want to impress me, which would be a big warning sign he wasn't even interested.


I understand what you are saying, but I tend to go a little overboard in this regard and can end up with the woman accusing me of treating her like "whore" because I was trying to "buy" her!

I'm not kidding, this just happened to me...you're damned if you do and damned if you don't... :roll:


Hmm, people with AS I've found do tend to attract a-holes for dates, who have insecurity issues and blame the other person for it. I can't imagine any woman except a mad one to say something like that. A lot of women love being spent on. I wouldn't assume in future that any other woman is going to come out with that sort of thing.

This has reminded me of some men on here I've heard saying that a woman will have a go at them if they open the door for them because they feel it makes a woman appear weak. I mean, what a stupid thing to have a go at someone who has just politely opened the door for you. I like it and think it's only decent manners, and it's charming when the man actually stands against the door to let you through.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

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Hmm, people with AS I've found do tend to attract a-holes for dates, who have insecurity issues and blame the other person for it. I can't imagine any woman except a mad one to say something like that. A lot of women love being spent on. I wouldn't assume in future that any other woman is going to come out with that sort of thing.

This has reminded me of some men on here I've heard saying that a woman will have a go at them if they open the door for them because they feel it makes a woman appear weak. I mean, what a stupid thing to have a go at someone who has just politely opened the door for you. I like it and think it's only decent manners, and it's charming when the man actually stands against the door to let you through.
That's just craziness... girls like that give women a bad name.



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17 Aug 2011, 11:56 am

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That looks so awesome!

but you do realize I am actually going to take you up on your offer, right?


Are you coming to leafy Lancashite?


Quite possibly, I'm still planning my route - the only guidelines I have is that it should primarily NOT be on major roads or highways, and should include as many structures known to be haunted as possible :wink: I'd like to buy dinner and/or a pint for a few WPers if I get a chance too...


lol my city got two ghost tours, shiverpool and haunted Liverpool ghost walks
You might what to look up a local Liverpool writer called Tom Slemen, he's published over 15 books about hanuted Liverpool. If your lucky you might get some of his books on Amazon. :wink:



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17 Aug 2011, 11:58 am

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This has reminded me of some men on here I've heard saying that a woman will have a go at them if they open the door for them because they feel it makes a woman appear weak. I mean, what a stupid thing to have a go at someone who has just politely opened the door for you. I like it and think it's only decent manners, and it's charming when the man actually stands against the door to let you through.


Blame the Millie Tant wing of feminism for this.



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17 Aug 2011, 12:06 pm

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I suppose I'm thinking of this in the more general sense, not the specific situation you mention above. Plus how I would like a date to go.

Personally, I've never had a relationship with someone who has much money to spare. I've never had much money to spare. I'd rather we did something fun, cheap, and most important something we both enjoyed, felt comfortable with, and that helped us to get to know each other better. Impressing me...? Money don't impress me much. A man can show his interest in many different ways, most of which are free.

Plus, I think relationships should be pretty equal. Obviously there are times when a person wants to treat their partner, buy them something nice or go somewhere special for their birthday or the like. But I wouldn't feel comfortable with a man always wanting to pay for me. It's not very 21st century.

Yeah some aspie blokes aren't very nice. Some aspie women aren't very nice. Some NT men and women aren't very nice.
It's a whole human thing. :P


Not very 21st century? If people have to be equal, then that would make a really dull world. Nobody is equal, we are all different. I'm very demanding, so if I wanted a partner, he'd have to be very tolerent of me and my OCD. I'm not saying I shouldn't put in any effort, but it's bound to be an unequal relationship with me. Relationships can't all be equal in order for them to work, and sometimes people do want to put in the extra effort.

I don't get this thing with some people not like being spent on. I love it, and seeing how much crap women have to put up with (less pay than men, wearing high heels, shaving/waxing *everywhere*, wearing make-up, giving birth, periods etc). then I think we deserve to be spent on! If I was ever going to marry, it would be with a rich man. May as well make life easier for myself, eh?



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17 Aug 2011, 12:28 pm

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I suppose I'm thinking of this in the more general sense, not the specific situation you mention above. Plus how I would like a date to go.

Personally, I've never had a relationship with someone who has much money to spare. I've never had much money to spare. I'd rather we did something fun, cheap, and most important something we both enjoyed, felt comfortable with, and that helped us to get to know each other better. Impressing me...? Money don't impress me much. A man can show his interest in many different ways, most of which are free.

Plus, I think relationships should be pretty equal. Obviously there are times when a person wants to treat their partner, buy them something nice or go somewhere special for their birthday or the like. But I wouldn't feel comfortable with a man always wanting to pay for me. It's not very 21st century.

Yeah some aspie blokes aren't very nice. Some aspie women aren't very nice. Some NT men and women aren't very nice.
It's a whole human thing. :P


Not very 21st century? If people have to be equal, then that would make a really dull world. Nobody is equal, we are all different. I'm very demanding, so if I wanted a partner, he'd have to be very tolerent of me and my OCD. I'm not saying I shouldn't put in any effort, but it's bound to be an unequal relationship with me. Relationships can't all be equal in order for them to work, and sometimes people do want to put in the extra effort.

I don't get this thing with some people not like being spent on. I love it, and seeing how much crap women have to put up with (less pay than men, wearing high heels, shaving/waxing *everywhere*, wearing make-up, giving birth, periods etc). then I think we deserve to be spent on! If I was ever going to marry, it would be with a rich man. May as well make life easier for myself, eh?



Maybe equal is the wrong word. Balanced maybe? I have nothing against the door being held open for me.
Anyway, as you say, we are all different.

Ah well you see... I don't wear high heels or make up. I haven't yet given birth. Most of the people I've had relationships have been as poor or poorer than me. Maybe it's just what I'm used to. I've never had a relationship where money was available for that sort of spendage, so really I've no idea what it would feel like.

Yes, all relationships are different, and it's completely right for you to look for the person who would make you most happy.



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17 Aug 2011, 12:39 pm

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a "nice" restaurant would definitely be the worst place, cause that's all we had to go before... ;-)


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Nice restaurants really suck.


How?



First of all: It's a public place. Being on a first date alone seems stressful enough, don't need to add a waiter/waitress walking plus several complete strangers sitting around to get distracted some more.
Besides: I'm unable to detect anything even remotely romantic in watching someone eat.



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17 Aug 2011, 12:46 pm

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Maybe equal is the wrong word. Balanced maybe? I have nothing against the door being held open for me.


Nothing wrong with a woman (or a man) wanting an unequal relationship if they are unequal people, and it does them a disservice to want to impose some mad vision of 'equality' on them when they clearly would prefer it the other way.

For instance, some women do want to fulfil the traditional conservative feminine roles but society has told them, basically, they can have everything but that. They're not 'liberated' in today's world and some really just want to make a man happy and have his kiddywinks.



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17 Aug 2011, 1:00 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Maybe equal is the wrong word. Balanced maybe? I have nothing against the door being held open for me.


Nothing wrong with a woman (or a man) wanting an unequal relationship if they are unequal people, and it does them a disservice to want to impose some mad vision of 'equality' on them when they clearly would prefer it the other way.

For instance, some women do want to fulfil the traditional conservative feminine roles but society has told them, basically, they can have everything but that. They're not 'liberated' in today's world and some really just want to make a man happy and have his kiddywinks.


Yes, I agree. People should do what is right for them. I don't think I mentioned imposing anything on anyone.