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TeaEarlGreyHot
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28 Oct 2011, 10:57 pm

Free love, baby!

<--- not easy :lol:


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28 Oct 2011, 11:26 pm

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I cant believe how easy it is to have hippie sex with the anti corporation protesters amassing in our cities, RIGHT NOW

Its like 70's free love with ADHD drop outs, punks, freaks and angry polynesian's

Even the older crew are all little dirty root rats


Really?


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28 Oct 2011, 11:39 pm

Surfman wrote:
I cant believe how easy it is to have hippie sex with the anti corporation protesters amassing in our cities


You should try signing up for a political campaign field operation. If you don't mind the occasional unshaved leg, campaigns are insane sex parties full of single people far from home in a charged environment sharing a bond. If you can't get laid in a political campaign, you need to get checked by a doctor.

I'd bet the best hippie sex will track up to Massachusetts to volunteer for Elizabeth Warren. Swing state Obama offices will be fun, too. Try operations in historically swing and GOP states . . . if I had to make a best guess, Arizona could be fun in 2012.



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29 Oct 2011, 12:34 am

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Really?


I think most of these people are just tuned that way most of the time

but the atmosphere is electric, and a sense of togetherness and comradeship prevails, these people get together fairly often over the years

or to put it simply: depends on how much you smell like a hippy



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29 Oct 2011, 12:43 am

At the risk of looking clueless... what does a hippie smell like?


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29 Oct 2011, 1:27 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
At the risk of looking clueless... what does a hippie smell like?


A failed college education, vague ideology used as a pretext for unsanitary lifestyle choices and one million pounds of marijuana


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29 Oct 2011, 1:54 am

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Chronos, what is your purpose on this forum? I've read posts on this forum as a guest for a long time and it seems that every time some guy on here makes a thread criticizing women you lash out and start attacking them. Is it your life's mission to defend women against valid criticism? That's all I see you do on here. The more you do it the more I can tell you seem to be very egotistical and biased.


My purpose is to help my fellow aspergians. To be honest, if I didn't care, I would not bother to share the things it took me so many years to learn. When I was younger, I was probably one of the more "low functioning" individuals and it made life very difficult. Had someone explicitly instilled in me certain knowledge, my life would have been a lot easier and I would not have missed out on so many opportunities. So I attempt to instill in others with AS things I wish I had known.

This is called the "Love and Dating forum". It is not a place for men to attack women, or women to attack men. I will defend myself when attacked whether I be attacked explicitly through personal reference, or implicitly, through association.

I will also defend others when attacked in such a manner. Including the men here, when attacked by women who are bitter towards the entire male sex. We don't have many of the latter posts here so you have not had the opportunity to see me defend men in that fashion, however we do tend to have many wives or girlfriends of men with AS, or wives or girlfriends who think their husbands or boyfriends have AS, who come here and complain about them. I more often than not support the men in those situations, when I feel the women have been unreasonable or unfair, which is much of the time.

There certainly is a such thing as valid criticism, however I do not consider most blanket claims and generalizations valid criticism.

You said "I can tell you seem to be very egotistical and biased". That is a valid criticism because it is your honest perception of me specifically, based on your interpretation information that came directly from me.

Shortly after I learned I had AS, as upset as I was about the fact that who I was, the way I thought, the way I existed, was categorized as a clinical disorder, I realized that my life was going to continue to be so unbearably difficult unless I made some changes, and I realized the key to making those changes was open my mind to others and take into consideration their criticisms and perspectives of me and really entertain the idea that they might be valid

Most of us have been called stubborn, selfish, inconsiderate, unempathetic, unreasonable and so on at some points in our lives, and while people will sometimes say those things as manipulative tactics when they don't get their way, they may also be said on the basis that that is the truth to how the other person perceives us.

So, perhaps I come across as egotistical. As a person with AS, one of my difficulties is to articulate who I am in the sense that it's a bit of an enigma to me how others determine what "type" of person an individual is, and so I also seem to lack the ability to properly convey the type of person I am, and frequently, when someone pegs me as a "type" which I am not, I'm confused as to how they made their determination. If you can articulate what I have said or done to have come across as egotistical, I will attempt make adjustments as to avoid coming across in such a way in the future.

Concerning being biased. The funny thing about bias is no one thinks they are. I try very hard to be unbiased however if you have found a comment I have made that you feel is unreasonably biased, please direct me to it so that I may correct that bias, make clarifications, or defend myself if I see fit.

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Well I think the men here who have legitimate issues with women should be allowed to say something and not be ridiculed for it.


And sometimes they do have legitimate issues. The problem is when they take that anger and frustration over what might be a legitimate issue and attack or slander innocent individuals. For example, when you stated that women with AS won't date men with AS, you were making a claim against me that was not true, because I am a woman with AS and I do not exclude men as potential mates simply because they have AS.

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Another thing that amazes me is how wimpy some of the guys are here who put women on pedestals and always defend them. That's why when a guy here makes a thread saying he can't get a woman because of gender roles and difficult pre-requisites required both guys and girls will start ganging up and using ad hominem attacks. What I'd like to say to those guys is that you're wasting your time defending these women because really, it's not like they are going to go out with you or have a real life relationship with you. There's plenty of "normal", rich, bad boys for that. I come from another forum completely unrelated to aspergers, someone just pointed this place out to me once, so I thought I'd get some feedback on this.


Not that I read every post, but I've not seen a man defending such a woman, who he has put on a pedestal, in a thread here recently. However we do have many older posts concerning the phenomena of "nice guys", men who unreasonably bend over backwards for a woman, and consider themselves to be nice, but are not really nice. Rather, they are trying to buy a woman's fancy by doing what they consider to be nice things, and simultaneously this causes them not to set boundaries in the relationship and feel walked on and wronged when their efforts don't get them what they want. The point of the posts was to try to get some of the men who were having issues with this to realize that relationships don't work that way and they have to set boundaries and not be afraid to stand up for themselves or say no to their partners in a relationship.

So I believe we more or less agree on that matter.



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29 Oct 2011, 2:17 am

vilin66 wrote:
I can't find any myth, but I'm sure it happens regularly. I just don't understand why the men here get censored more than women. I've seen this on every internet forum I've been to, especially ones about relationships and dating. There appears to be some kind of anti-male opression agenda out there. I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.


One reason could be that men may out number women on this forum. It is thought that either more males than females have AS, or/and females with AS are underdiagnosed or often misdiagnosed.

If you see this on forums with equal numbers of men and women, then I would speculate that either male members are breaking the rules more than female members, or the moderators are more lenient to female members. Or it could be a little of both.



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29 Oct 2011, 10:59 am

Vigilans wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
At the risk of looking clueless... what does a hippie smell like?


A failed college education, vague ideology used as a pretext for unsanitary lifestyle choices and one million pounds of marijuana


Interesting. None of the hippies I've ever met smelled of that.


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29 Oct 2011, 1:20 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
At the risk of looking clueless... what does a hippie smell like?


A failed college education, vague ideology used as a pretext for unsanitary lifestyle choices and one million pounds of marijuana


Interesting. None of the hippies I've ever met smelled of that.


Must be a Canadian thing


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29 Oct 2011, 2:35 pm

Living in tents with no running water...there is definitely an odour!

By 'smell' I meant something not so literal

Some people smell of money.
Its not that their odour is like that of money.....


viva la revolution!!



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29 Oct 2011, 2:52 pm

Surfman wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:

Really?


I think most of these people are just tuned that way most of the time

but the atmosphere is electric, and a sense of togetherness and comradeship prevails, these people get together fairly often over the years

or to put it simply: depends on how much you smell like a hippy


Is this Auckland you are talking about?


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29 Oct 2011, 10:54 pm

Up until 8th grade i was thoroughly disliked my almost everyone. After 8th grade i decided to make a dedicated effort to observe what is socially optimal, 8-9th grade was a lot better. i am currently in tenth grade and i know how to be social, kind of. I just do what everyone else does. I mimic whomever im with even if it means lying. Not to be malicious, just to fit in. I too was not genetically programmed to be social, i had to learn the basics of it for years. As for this forum being abolished, why? The people who enjoy it would miss out.



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30 Oct 2011, 1:13 pm

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30 Oct 2011, 1:19 pm

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I don't see the need for the "Love and dating forum". If you can't get a girl-/boyfriend, it's all about genetics, not social skills. We are not genetically programmed to have friends, to date, have sex or to have children. We are all genetically programmed to be loners without any need for social contact with other people and therefore most of us lack the need for friendship and lack any feeling of lonelyness.
The majority of the posts I see here are from desperate men who are unable to live up to "being normal". If you are tormented by your sex drive, either stick to porn or get chemically castrated! Quit bothering people with the fact that you can't get laid. Yes, I know I've been the same way, but I've accepted that I'm unable to get anyone into bed.


Well back in the day I've tried to make people love me and it never worked. Then I found a wonderful aspie woman and all of that changed. Maybe you can do the same.



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30 Oct 2011, 4:34 pm

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Simonono wrote:
It is social skills and genetics.


No, it's purely genetic programming. I don't believe in teaching social skills.


As someone who teaches special needs children and an Aspie I know i am very thankful for the social skills i have been taught and my kids are too.