How important is money really?

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31 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

Women only want money - someone had to write it! :)

On a more serious note, i do not care if a girl lives in a paper box on the side of a street as long as she is happy, i've seen one girl on a dating forum describe the same thing. The rest did not want any "freeloading slackers" for men. But then, it was a dating site and most people on dating sites are single for a reason - that is why i rarely stay on dating sites for a long time.

The girls i prefer to be around are generally "non-materialistic" - i.e. some of them they do have money, but they do not "flash it in your face", and i do not care if they have money or not: My circle of friends has included people who live on welfare and people who almost live next door to NHL players - it's what inside the individual that counts, and i use the same measure when going on a date.

There are other more important things for me when looking for a woman, and money has never been the problem factor when a date went wrong...


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31 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm

Ichinin wrote:
Women only want money - someone had to write it! :)


Enjoy!

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31 Oct 2011, 12:49 pm

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are these okc trends "stats" are real?


If they are, the datingsites i've been on obviously had a broken mail system that filtered away 97.5% of the messages sent to me.


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31 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.


Yes, of course they are "real" - for the online dating universe.

Conventionally attractive women have a very similar distribution themselves (which I'm too lazy to go look up).

That methodology is far too simplistic to draw any serious conclusions from, the most glaring one being if "# of messages received" correlates to real world desirability. How many of those were single-click "winks", for example.



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31 Oct 2011, 12:57 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.

it's not the whole article - the site was started by mathematicians or something and they would write entire articles about the data they gathered. the graph is... just a graph. where is the rest of the article?


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31 Oct 2011, 1:05 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.

it's not the whole article - the site was started by mathematicians or something and they would write entire articles about the data they gathered. the graph is... just a graph. where is the rest of the article?

sorry wrong link above

here: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-b ... ne-dating/



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31 Oct 2011, 1:09 pm

Grisha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.


Yes, of course they are "real" - for the online dating universe.

Conventionally attractive women have a very similar distribution themselves (which I'm too lazy to go look up).

That methodology is far too simplistic to draw any serious conclusions from, the most glaring one being if "# of messages received" correlates to real world desirability. How many of those were single-click "winks", for example.



But women on okc are real women too, while most people's on online dating are fantasies, those fantasies do tell something, we can't be ideal fools and burryour heads in sand too.



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31 Oct 2011, 1:17 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Grisha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.


Yes, of course they are "real" - for the online dating universe.

Conventionally attractive women have a very similar distribution themselves (which I'm too lazy to go look up).

That methodology is far too simplistic to draw any serious conclusions from, the most glaring one being if "# of messages received" correlates to real world desirability. How many of those were single-click "winks", for example.



But women on okc are real women too, while most people's on online dating are fantasies, those fantasies do tell something, we can't be ideal fools and burryour heads in sand too.


Yes of course. I think the key word is "fantasy" though, and this is clear evidence that in the mile-wide-inch-deep world of online dating women are somewhat disproportionately looking for a guy with money.

Yet another reason I avoid those sites completely...



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31 Oct 2011, 1:26 pm

^wouldnt it be less work to look for a job



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31 Oct 2011, 1:31 pm

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Yes of course. I think the key word is "fantasy" though, and this is clear evidence that in the mile-wide-inch-deep world of online dating women are somewhat disproportionately looking for a guy with money.

Yet another reason I avoid those sites completely...


LOVE the bolded part. So perfect.

Do they really? Are they super obvious about it? Are they somewhat oblique-but-understood? How do they phrase it? It's so ... foreign to me, to even begin to think like that!



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31 Oct 2011, 1:39 pm

Grisha wrote:
Yes of course. I think the key word is "fantasy" though, and this is clear evidence that in the mile-wide-inch-deep world of online dating women are somewhat disproportionately looking for a guy with money.

Yet another reason I avoid those sites completely...

yeah, absolutely (though i dunno if it's mostly gold-digging people online). also, the higher numbers of women who are after rich men.... well, who would want to date a woman who was after a man's money? same goes for men who are also looking for money or a hot young woman with no common interests.

if you look closer at the graph and eliminate the two extremes (as most people don't fall in those categories), we can see that in places it's almost like a random patchwork... a 32-year old man who earns 30-40,000 gets far more messages than a man of the same age who earns 80,000!! !

there is no correction for the age or demographics of the women sending the messages, whether they are first messages or replies, etc. also, the graph is in percentiles, not true raw data, so the categories are deceptive. there would be fewer men at the ends of the spectrum but the graph makes it look like an even distribution.


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31 Oct 2011, 1:41 pm

You only need money, to buy the things you need pay your taxes ect other then that money doens't serve a purpose to me :lol:



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31 Oct 2011, 1:42 pm

mv wrote:
Grisha wrote:
Yes of course. I think the key word is "fantasy" though, and this is clear evidence that in the mile-wide-inch-deep world of online dating women are somewhat disproportionately looking for a guy with money.

Yet another reason I avoid those sites completely...


LOVE the bolded part. So perfect.

Do they really? Are they super obvious about it? Are they somewhat oblique-but-understood? How do they phrase it? It's so ... foreign to me, to even begin to think like that!


It's not entirely foreign to me. In my younger days, money mattered a lot more to me when selecting a partner. I was terrified of being dirt poor like I was growing up. As I got older, things were put into perspective for me.

Not that I was looking for some rich old man to mooch off of.


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31 Oct 2011, 1:45 pm

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Grisha wrote:
Yes of course. I think the key word is "fantasy" though, and this is clear evidence that in the mile-wide-inch-deep world of online dating women are somewhat disproportionately looking for a guy with money.

Yet another reason I avoid those sites completely...


LOVE the bolded part. So perfect.

Do they really? Are they super obvious about it? Are they somewhat oblique-but-understood? How do they phrase it? It's so ... foreign to me, to even begin to think like that!


Of course they don't say it blatantly (there are Sugar Daddy websites for that) but it usually takes the form of getting an enthusiastic message from someone who is blatantly incompatible even by their own stated criteria in their profile :roll: For some reason they tend to be beer-guzzling NASCAR fans - which is of course OK, but certainly not for me...



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31 Oct 2011, 4:03 pm

You have to bold as brass to expect the men you date to have a job and security, when you have NONE yourself, and have absolutely NOTHING to bring to the table yourself, except for maybe a stinky hole.

Don't change for someone unless they change for you.



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31 Oct 2011, 4:07 pm

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You have to bold as brass to expect the men you date to have a job and security, when you have NONE yourself, and have absolutely NOTHING to bring to the table yourself, except for maybe a stinky hole.

Don't change for someone unless they change for you.



That's the thing:

Someone places demands on another and tells them to take a hike.
When other person gets into position of the first persons wishes, that person tells others to take a hike - because "now i am somebody".

Can someone spot the problem?


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