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06 Apr 2012, 9:31 pm

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Now look at what you're doing! You're ASSUMING things that aren't actually there. You're doing the same thing you complained about me doing to him. I am not the kind of person who would murder. You're being irrational right now. That's very hypocritical and not fair in the least. Not all people with Asperger's are exactly the same- you would know that, since you post and read a lot. Unless you aren't actually reading what these people are saying. Not every single person in this universe is alike. We do share a lot of the same tendencies in the Aspie community, but we don't all have the same personality and the same interests, do we? I don't know how you can say that just because one thing I do contradicts what you defines me as neurotypical when I know myself well enough to give myself the label of Aspie. I wouldn't just pointlessly label myself with Asperger's if I didn't believe there was a ton of truth to it in defining who I am as a human being.


I did not say that you are the kind of person who would murder. I also did not say that people with Asperger's Syndrome are exactly the same. In fact, it frustrates me a lot when people assume that. You just don't seem like anyone with Asperger's who I've met, while you do remind me a lot of Neurotypicals. I also am frustrated with you now because it seems like you're trying to imply that I believe things that I don't actually believe. For future reference, please don't assume that I believe anything unless I directly say it. I do not say anything indirectly.

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So, you've never met an Aspie who could identify when someone was being cruel and cold?



No, you're missing my point. I don't think he was being cruel and cold at all. It seems a lot like a phrasing that an actual Autistic person might use when he wants to know if you have any questions. (I was talking about the part where he said "Do you have any questions" or something along those lines.) I think that you're doing that thing that you just did to me where you're assuming that there are thoughts and feelings behind the words without actually asking. No one has any way of truly knowing what someone is thinking and feeling unless the people specifically say that they think or feel something, and even then they could be lying, but it is generally unfavorable to do so.


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It isn't manipulative in the least. It's the complete truth. I was ridiculed growing up. Constantly made fun of by everyone and I would always try to fit in. I made constant errors in everything I did through daily life then and now. I can't pick-up on social cues and when I am doing things incorrectly. I have to be verbally told in order for me to stop. I can give you SO many different examples of this. I have never felt like I could understand people, and I still feel like I can't. I am FREQUENTLY dealing with problems socializing: I have no friends, nor do I have an interest in the things other people are doing outside of my box.


That doesn't sound like "a life of pain and suffering" to me. It seems like you're exaggerating. I haven't lived "a life of pain and suffering" either, but I know that just being constantly made fun of doesn't qualify!
Were you raped, abused, molested, tortured, kidnapped, imprisoned, or assaulted? Did your parents die when you were young? Did you starve or suffer from a horrible illness (and, no, Autism doesn't count :roll: )? Were you forced to go to one of those crazy camps where the counselors destroy your self-esteem and make you feel like all your problems are your fault? Did you ever fight in a war? Were you ever forced to hurt creatures or watch others hurt them? Were you ever in a controlling cult?
I doubt that any of those things happened to you since you didn't mention them. You should have thought before you exaggerated like that; trying to seem like your life is SOOOO TERRIBLE is an insult to the people who have experienced those things and things like that.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're a teenager.


Anyway, I'm not going to bother reading this. I didn't get on here to argue about whether or not I'm an Aspie. I came here to receive help from people who were willing to lend a hand, not be critical of who I am and what I am saying.



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06 Apr 2012, 9:35 pm

I understand that. As my friend just pointed out, you wrote to ask a question. I shouldn't have gone off on that tangent. I will leave this alone for now. I apologize.



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06 Apr 2012, 9:41 pm

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I understand that. As my friend just pointed out, you wrote to ask a question. I shouldn't have gone off on that tangent. I will leave this alone for now. I apologize.


I wish you would have contacted me privately. I prefer that over this publicly. If you want to talk to me, talk to me in a private place. That's fine.



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06 Apr 2012, 9:44 pm

Okay. Next time I am in a situation like this, I will contact you privately. That didn't occur to me.



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06 Apr 2012, 9:46 pm

diniesaur wrote:
Okay. Next time I am in a situation like this, I will contact you privately. That didn't occur to me.


I don't mean in general... -.-... I meant in heated conversations. I should have clarified that.