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07 Aug 2011, 11:08 am

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Please stop using the term prostitute


Really are you having a giraffe? What term do you which it to know as then if you what to play with semantics?
Sexual service provider, Carnal knowledge consultant, sensual bodywork therapist, or tantric engineer take you pick!

Anyway if you know the etymology of the word prostitute then you know that it had sweet FA to do with the sex trade.


I like carnal knowledge consultant. It even has a little bit of alliteration in it.


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07 Aug 2011, 11:09 am

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What term do you which it to know as then if you what to play with semantics?
Sexual service provider, Carnal knowledge consultant, sensual bodywork therapist, or tantric engineer take you pick!

Anyway if you know the etymology of the word prostitute then you know that it had sweet FA to do with the sex trade.


Well maybe the word escort would not have other women have as many issues with it. Plus escorts are easier to look up in many telephone books then prostitutes are.
Additionally, escort services usually have some sort of health practice in place, like monthly STI/STD check-ups.

One last thing, you may not have noticed, but there are not very many women that support this option for men. And probably even fewer that will stick-up for males right to do it.
So I can understand you being a twat to a female that does come along and support it, but don't do it to often.

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07 Aug 2011, 11:17 am

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Well maybe the word escort

'Escort' is a particular type of prostitute.

Since prostitute is the more general term, it would be more appropriate, unless you're trying to spin things one way or another.

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So I can understand you being a twat to a female that does come along and support it, but don't do it to often.

???

I didn't see anyone 'being a twat' to anyone.


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07 Aug 2011, 12:05 pm

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I like carnal knowledge consultant. It even has a little bit of alliteration in it.

So do I actually, but pretty sure I couldn't get away with that on a card/door plaque if I decide to head in that direction instead of my 1st choice ;)

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Well maybe the word escort

'Escort' is a particular type of prostitute.

Since prostitute is the more general term, it would be more appropriate, unless you're trying to spin things one way or another.

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So I can understand you being a twat to a female that does come along and support it, but don't do it to often.

???

I didn't see anyone 'being a twat' to anyone.


Read what some of the women in this thread and all of the other threads like this call/consider prostitutes. It is not nice some of it, maybe even most of it.
Sadly that is how a majority of individuals may translate the word.

Plus, for many the word brings up images of trafficking women and worst children.
They may imagine the guys driving around some seedy area of a town, slowing down to 'look at the merchandise' at each street corner.
Their imagination can get the best of them.
Then there is also connected to the word in many areas organisations like 'Shame the John'. In some of these areas, members take photographs of suspect vehicles, send them into the police and
the police may pick the individual up, or just simply send a letter in the post.

The word escort, for some, bring images of 'Pretty Woman' or something close to it.
Some escorts are students.
There tends to be less social stigma toward escorts and obtaining their services. Some countries even bring them in after sealing a business deal.
Many agencies have profiles of their girls on-line, nicer way to look at 'the merchandise' I would think.

The twat comment was because of the semantics and etymology comments, though I do like one of them. I have known both women and men in the profession over the years
in many different ways, it grated me. But it was uncalled for.


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07 Aug 2011, 12:21 pm

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Read what some of the women in this thread and all of the other threads like this call/consider prostitutes. It is not nice some of it, maybe even most of it.
Sadly that is how a majority of individuals may translate the word.

I've read it, and I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just that I don't think changing the word used to reference it will change their reaction.


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07 Aug 2011, 12:41 pm

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I've read it, and I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just that I don't think changing the word used to reference it will change their reaction.


Sadly, you are probably correct, considering I have argued here before for guys rights in this matter. With some of the same individuals that are in this thread.
However, I still think the word should not be used and replaced with one that might not cause as much trouble.
Simply because in many places prostitution is illegal, highering an escort ain't, so if someone makes a slip and says they were out with an escort, they are less likely to get bothered.
Same for if your pulled over in a roadside check, the escort may be registered with the police (some places do that), but men need dinner companies at times.

Whatever you guys decide, play safe


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07 Aug 2011, 12:55 pm

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Well maybe the word escort would not have other women have as many issues with it. Plus escorts are easier to look up in many telephone books then prostitutes are.
Additionally, escort services usually have some sort of health practice in place, like monthly STI/STD check-ups.


The word escort is a euphemism it covers up with ambiguity both the sexual and non sexual aspect of the meaning of the term.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escort

An escort is a companion, the sex trade also use the term masseuse as an euphemism. That euphemism offends me as am a trained complementary therapist, as like escort its also ambiguous.

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One last thing, you may not have noticed, but there are not very many women that support this option for men. And probably even fewer that will stick-up for males right to do it.
So I can understand you being a twat to a female that does come along and support it, but don't do it to often.


I read all the pages on this thread. Have you now? Thats nice of you to hit blow the belt with a personal attack!



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07 Aug 2011, 1:15 pm

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I like carnal knowledge consultant. It even has a little bit of alliteration in it.

So do I actually, but pretty sure I couldn't get away with that on a card/door plaque if I decide to head in that direction instead of my 1st choice ;)


Euphemisms for bad jobs are all the rage these days. Janitors are "sanitation engineers," window-cleaners are "transparent-wall maintenance officers," gravediggers are "cemetery operatives." I'm sure the list goes on and on. Carnal knowledge consultant fits in really well with that. I'd suggest you go for it. At least it's interesting from a scientific viewpoint. ;)


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07 Aug 2011, 1:20 pm

cdfox7 wrote:
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Well maybe the word escort would not have other women have as many issues with it. Plus escorts are easier to look up in many telephone books then prostitutes are.
Additionally, escort services usually have some sort of health practice in place, like monthly STI/STD check-ups.


The word escort is a euphemism it covers up with ambiguity both the sexual and non sexual aspect of the meaning of the term.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escort

An escort is a companion, the sex trade also use the term masseuse as an euphemism. That euphemism offends me as am a trained complementary therapist, as like escort its also ambiguous.

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One last thing, you may not have noticed, but there are not very many women that support this option for men. And probably even fewer that will stick-up for males right to do it.
So I can understand you being a twat to a female that does come along and support it, but don't do it to often.


I read all the pages on this thread. Have you now? Thats nice of you to hit blow the belt with a personal attack!


If we are going to start listing all the euphemisms, we might as well also add courtesan and entertainers.
The fact that escort is ambiguous might be a good.
Yes I have read the whole thread, I always do before I post. The hitting below the belt was unintentional and caused by my misreading what you had wrote. And I have already apologised in the thread for it.


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07 Aug 2011, 1:39 pm

InsomniacDreams wrote:
If we are going to start listing all the euphemisms, we might as well also add courtesan and entertainers.
The fact that escort is ambiguous might be a good.
Yes I have read the whole thread, I always do before I post. The hitting below the belt was unintentional and caused by my misreading what you had wrote. And I have already apologised in the thread for it.


Apology accepted.
Ambiguity is a double edged sword as its leaves it down to an individual to define both there own conscious and subconscious meanings to the phrases/terms used. Ambiguity is simply language that communicates to the imagination plus its a form of hypnotic communication.



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07 Aug 2011, 4:14 pm

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I like carnal knowledge consultant. It even has a little bit of alliteration in it.

So do I actually, but pretty sure I couldn't get away with that on a card/door plaque if I decide to head in that direction instead of my 1st choice ;)


Carnal knowledge consultant fits in really well with that. I'd suggest you go for it. At least it's interesting from a scientific viewpoint. ;)


Sorry I didn't respond back to you earlier, you must have posted while I was still typing my last response as InsomniacDreams.
From a couple viewpoints it is very interesting and I think that if I could get away with it, I might try ..
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3910320.html#3910320 if you look, I added it to my updated info lol


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07 Aug 2011, 4:37 pm

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Artros wrote:
I like carnal knowledge consultant. It even has a little bit of alliteration in it.

So do I actually, but pretty sure I couldn't get away with that on a card/door plaque if I decide to head in that direction instead of my 1st choice ;)


Carnal knowledge consultant fits in really well with that. I'd suggest you go for it. At least it's interesting from a scientific viewpoint. ;)


Sorry I didn't respond back to you earlier, you must have posted while I was still typing my last response as InsomniacDreams.
From a couple viewpoints it is very interesting and I think that if I could get away with it, I might try ..
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3910320.html#3910320 if you look, I added it to my updated info lol


I like your mindset. Can't go wrong with a good backup plan.


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08 Aug 2011, 1:11 am

InsomniacDreams wrote:
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Please stop using the term prostitute
If your going to do it, do it safe and ffs keep it to your self. Nobody needs to know the details of how you lost your virginity or if you even have for that matter
Unless you all really like being nagged at and called all sorts of things please stop posting these kinds of threads and use search to see how many there are on the topic here
and how they all ended up

Actually, that is a good idea, I mean, I have hidden that particular detail, in real life discussions, as I have said to have this experience with a woman, omitting that she happened to be a prostitute, or else I don't discuss anything other than answering few questions, the issue is that some level anonimity on the internet, makes people more willing to confess things and being more open than offline situations..

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Stop calling them derogatory terms, such as dirty hookers, etc because I know for a fact many here do not like being called other derogatory names
But most of all, stop getting on a guys case about escorts. Unless your screwing them or plan on screwing them or in/getting into a relationship with the guy(s) in question,
it is non of your business what they do with or where they place their equipment, or with whom.
So how could there be competition

The issue here is ideology and activism rather than competition, so some say no to prostitution and no to men using their services, because they consider it. in general, sex slavery, while others would consider the prostitutes themselves inmoral, not that I agree with their conclusions, but that is pretty much the issue here on WP, sadly. It seems that we can't have this kind of theme without some sort of strong ideological opposition, (again not surprisingly on this sections from WP) being some of the reasons an adult (porn) forum fits better for this type of discussion.

And people need to learn to stop feeding the trol....I mean the activists :P



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16 Aug 2011, 2:10 am

Ancalagon wrote:
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Well maybe the word escort

'Escort' is a particular type of prostitute.

Since prostitute is the more general term, it would be more appropriate, unless you're trying to spin things one way or another.


I will use prostitute if the type is not (very) relevant. In the Netherlands where prostitution is yet legal (and soon regulated) there are several kinds of prostitutes. I will order them from cheap to expensive:
- hoer: for me an insulting term, maybe comparable with English: whore;
- tippelaarster or straatprostitutee. That is derived from the verb tippelen. Originally some way of walking perhaps, but now it means that a woman is walking in tippelzones (areas where you are allowed to do that) and looking for men in cars and check whether they want to have a blowjob;
- raamprostituee or raamdame. A stationary prostitute behind the windows. Raam is Dutch for window. The operating system name Windows is never translated in the Dutch language;
- privédame. Similar to prostitute but offers GFE. It is more expensive than a raamprostituee. They work in privéhuizen. These are discreet buildings where they work. Clients will go there. Sometimes an appointment with a specific privédame can be made;
- escort. Instead of receiving visiting clients, they go to the home or hotel of the client. The sexual services are often the same to privédame. If the escort must come from far, you must book her for more hours. Some ladies have both in-call and out-call, which means that you can choose between visiting her at her location, or let her visit you at your location or a hotel;
- high class escort. The same as escorts, but these ladies are at least attractive. Most of them are beautiful. They can be very expensive.
There is also a term "dame van plezier" (lit. lady of pleasure) which can be used if you don't want to specify what kind of prostitute you are referring to.

Privédames, escorts and high class escorts can work for a bureau, for a pinp, but they can also work independently. They keep their incomes. Actually they are their own pimps.



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16 Aug 2011, 2:22 am

cdfox7 wrote:
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Well maybe the word escort would not have other women have as many issues with it. Plus escorts are easier to look up in many telephone books then prostitutes are.
Additionally, escort services usually have some sort of health practice in place, like monthly STI/STD check-ups.


The word escort is a euphemism it covers up with ambiguity both the sexual and non sexual aspect of the meaning of the term.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escort


The Dutch language use two words: escort and escorte. An escort is often a lady visiting you or visiting a hotel where you have an appointment. There sexual services will be delivered to the client. An escorte (note the last e) is a way of garding someone. In most cases the person to be guarded drives in the middle with his car. He is surrounded by soldiers or police men with cars, motor bikes or with tanks. The reason of the escorte is that the person must be guarded, or it is a part of a solemn happening. I even think that the person to be escorted (Dutch geëscorteerd) can be a prisoner and the surrounding soldiers or police wants to provent him to escape.



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30 Apr 2012, 5:29 pm

how old are you that you are still talking aout hoookers and the like. don't beselfish. Love is better than sex, some like me and my gf of 8 months :twisted: have the luxury of both, but the importnt thing is to make do with what you ahve. Tis shoold be closed.