Why do nt women leave and some don't?

Page 2 of 6 [ 96 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

ozman
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 161
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2012, 5:36 am

Yes thanks, I can only hope that we reconcile with the help of a councillor but we shall see.i am just a little bitter that she left me just when I got my diagnosis. I thought we could work thru it together



PastFixations
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,735

29 Jun 2012, 6:15 am

ozman wrote:
Yes thanks, I can only hope that we reconcile with the help of a councillor but we shall see.i am just a little bitter that she left me just when I got my diagnosis. I thought we could work thru it together

That's not just an AS thing. That's normal.
Sometimes we all are shocked by a partner deciding that they've had enough and things don't turn out as we expect.
I wish you the best of luck in your situation.


_________________
www.wrongplanet.net/postp5013377.html&h ... t=#5013377

Sora: "My friends are my power."

Ventus: "I'm asking you as a friend. Just... put an end to me."


Ilka
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 May 2011
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,365
Location: Panama City, Republic of Panama

29 Jun 2012, 7:00 am

The problem is people nowadays get married thinking that if later they dont like it, they can always get a divorce. Thats why the divorce rate is so high. People do not really commit. My husband is Aspie and he is faithful. I am NT and I am faithful. My husband found out he had AS when our 8 years-old was diagnosed (after 13 years of marriage). For me that was only a name. Nothing changed. He was the same person, and continued being the same person. Only with a new tag. That explained a lot of things, and helped me understand him a little better and helped me be more patient. But your wife was right sbout something: it aint easy. And the chances of having a kid with AS or Autism are pretty high (thats why I decided not to have any more children). If she cannot take it from you she wont be a good mother for your children. So probably it is for the best. Not for her, for you.



Butters
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jun 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 64

29 Jun 2012, 7:03 am

Before my partner even started looking into AS as a posibility, I just viewed him as different, sometimes odd, but all in a good way. I like different. I've always liked him because he was smart, I learn from him, When we first started dating and he had no thought of AS as a possiblity until just recently ( We've been together four years, tho off and on, we met at a young age )

I chose to stay by him because not only is he different from most guys, but he's helped me through so much back when we first started dating, He's really a wonderful man, I never understood ( during our times apart we each dated a little, hey we met at 15 and 16 so we both didnt have a lot of experiance at dating then lol ) how others he had dated could leave him, how they could treat him differently. It hurt me to see that. Because I myself saw something amazing in him that I suppose they didnt.

We've always been there for one another since we've known one another, I don't think I could be this happy with anyone else but him.



ozman
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 161
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2012, 7:39 am

Ilka wrote:
The problem is people nowadays get married thinking that if later they dont like it, they can always get a divorce. Thats why the divorce rate is so high. People do not really commit. My husband is Aspie and he is faithful. I am NT and I am faithful. My husband found out he had AS when our 8 years-old was diagnosed (after 13 years of marriage). For me that was only a name. Nothing changed. He was the same person, and continued being the same person. Only with a new tag. That explained a lot of things, and helped me understand him a little better and helped me be more patient. But your wife was right sbout something: it aint easy. And the chances of having a kid with AS or Autism are pretty high (thats why I decided not to have any more children). If she cannot take it from you she wont be a good mother for your children. So probably it is for the best. Not for her, for you.


Our child definitely does not have aspergers. Just like his nt mother. My aspergers is mild but does affect my wife. Still I would of thought with counseling she could continue in he relationship. It wasn't all bad. I'm still hoping that things will work out. Some friends say move on but others say hang in there. Really hard though.



ozman
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 161
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2012, 8:36 am

My wife has separated from me but left the door open for reconciling down he track. No promises though.

Is it the aspie in me to want to stay in the hope of getting her back? I don't think so but maybe it is? It is the hardest thing I have ever done with no guarantees.



Nikorvus
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jun 2012
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 64

29 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

again_with_this wrote:
ozman wrote:
Most NT women who learn about their husband's AS will think, "OK, it's not deliberate, but it's not gonna change either. Do I want to stay with this guy and learn to deal, or do I wanna get the hell out now?"
This is what my current GF did when I told her, after a few months of dating and a bottle of Absinthe. Thankfully, she decided to stay and do things like realize she needs to tell me when she needs a hug.


_________________
AQ: 36

Your Aspie score: 120 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 89 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits


Butters
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jun 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 64

29 Jun 2012, 9:11 am

Quote:
Is it the aspie in me to want to stay in the hope of getting her back? I don't think so but maybe it is? It is the hardest thing I have ever done with no guarantees.


I think most people who have been married want to have hope for saving the relationship and getting their partner back. No one get married in hopes of getting a divorce.

I say hang in there if she is willing to work at it and try, But know that a relationship is two people meaning she has to want to fix things to. If you are the only one putting in effort it simply will not happen.



Nikorvus
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jun 2012
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 64

29 Jun 2012, 9:31 am

Butters wrote:
Quote:
Is it the aspie in me to want to stay in the hope of getting her back? I don't think so but maybe it is? It is the hardest thing I have ever done with no guarantees.


I think most people who have been married want to have hope for saving the relationship and getting their partner back. No one get married in hopes of getting a divorce.


Except golddiggers. :D

But Butters has the right end of it. Damn, if you want to stay in a relationship and the other person wants to stay in a relationship, go forth and conquer. If on the other hand it is a one-sided battle, you're destined to lose.


_________________
AQ: 36

Your Aspie score: 120 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 89 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits


nick007
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 May 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,617
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in capitalistic military dictatorship called USA

29 Jun 2012, 11:55 am

I don't like the wheelchair analogy because when someone's in a wheelchair their partner can usually easily tell & understand some of the limitations that are involved but mental things like Aspergers are not easily understood. Some things to consider are that some Aspies push themselves to their limit by trying to change, hide or deny their Aspie stuff. They cant do it forever thou & when their Aspieness finally does come out; it's a huge shock to their NT partner when she finally realizes that her Aspie is kind of a different person than the one she got in a relationship with. The NT may feel a little betrayed like she was lied to or tricked. Sometimes the NTs just don't fully understand all the Aspie stuff. They may think that the Aspie stuff is situational at 1st or that those are things that can be worked on & changed some but they realize they were wrong after a while.


_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"
~King Of The Hill


"Hear all, trust nothing"
~Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition #190
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition


hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

29 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

ozman wrote:
Yes thanks, I can only hope that we reconcile with the help of a councillor but we shall see.i am just a little bitter that she left me just when I got my diagnosis. I thought we could work thru it together

a diagnosis can't fix a relationship. she may have hoped that you could change *something*, but since you now have a REASON why you behave a certain way, she may fully finally understand that substantial change is unlikely to happen.


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

29 Jun 2012, 3:04 pm

Because women are hard to figure out due to the fact no 2 women are the same. Some NT women are understanding while some are not and are unable to handle an aspie BF it varies. YES I HAVE FIGURED WOMEN OUT MUAHAHA the secret is....not one of them are the same therefore they can only be figured out as an individual.Truthfully though they are complicated and none of them are all the same therefore they generally cannot be figured out and remain a mystery.I guess just like us aspies to most NTs we cannot be figured out the same way? You can eventually figure a person out by analyzing the nature behavior and patterns however you cannot figure the entire group out hope that makes sense. :D


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList


ozman
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 161
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2012, 4:55 pm

I know Aspies are prone to depression but I have never felt that way until know. I feel very poorly and worry about myself, even though I am seeing a counsellor.
My wife has left me pue and simple because of my AS, but to me the killer comment is that I had my chances. Like I knew I had it.
I have died inside but I also feel a lot of resentment.for her inability to support me.
I used to be an outgoing popular person, now I feel like a social leper and people look at e in a different light.
For me life sucks



BlueMax
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Aug 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,285

29 Jun 2012, 6:18 pm

ozman wrote:
I know Aspies are prone to depression but I have never felt that way until know. I feel very poorly and worry about myself, even though I am seeing a counsellor.
My wife has left me pure and simply because of my AS, but to me the killer comment is that I had my chances. Like I knew I had it.
I have died inside but I also feel a lot of resentment.for her inability to support me.
I used to be an outgoing popular person, now I feel like a social leper and people look at e in a different light.
For me life sucks


Many will latch on to any lame excuse to leave, blaming that when it's really something else. She wanted to leave, but it was probably for reasons that sound selfish and lame when said aloud, so AS "sounds better" when she tells the story to whoever will listen to her. :x

I feel for you, Ozman... I've been there and I know the pain. The good news is it lessens with time... but it's been a long time for me and it ain't gone yet. :(



ozman
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 161
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2012, 6:18 pm

ABsolutely if things go pear shaped we both lose really. And I mean big time. She just can't handle the fact that I am an aspie. I support her thru all her depression and mental illness and she dumps me because im an aspie. No wonder I'm feelin like a piece of dirt.



again_with_this
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 780
Location: New Jersey, USA

29 Jun 2012, 6:23 pm

ozman wrote:
I know Aspies are prone to depression but I have never felt that way until know. I feel very poorly and worry about myself, even though I am seeing a counsellor.
My wife has left me pure and simple because of my AS, but to me the killer comment is that I had my chances. Like I knew I had it.
I have died inside but I also feel a lot of resentment.for her inability to support me.
I used to be an outgoing popular person, now I feel like a social leper and people look at e in a different light.
For me life sucks


I've mentioned this in other posts and want to mention it again here.

If you ever read support group forums for NT wives with AS husbands, what you'll see is that they'll list all of their grievances online. However, generally speaking, most of these women never actually told their husbands about any of these things. Sure, some AS husbands may have been unwilling to listen, but these NT wives didn't even bother to articulate any of their grievances directly to their husband, but they post them online after-the-fact. Most will argue, "oh, he should have know, I gave him plenty of hints," but none of them ever directly said anything, then decide one day they'd had enough. They never factor themselves into the equation of the failed marriage.