My Aspie Never Asked How I Was During My Hospital Stay

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23 Sep 2012, 8:54 pm

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Well, I guess it really is just me she isn't talking to. On her tumblr account some anonymous person just told her she was beautiful and she thanked them and said that they should cone off anon so she coukd talk to them. ?


Maybe you should mention this to her. I really think it is over at this point. Having Asperger's is not an excuse to keep people in the dark and break their hearts. Ask her why she'll respond to some random person, but not you. If the answer doesn't come or if the answer is a weak excuse just tell her it's obvious you're both better off as friends because she doesn't want anything to do with you when you're romantically involved.

I'm sorry. It's difficult. Maybe time will change things or maybe she is really trying to work everything about you and her out in her mind. I don't know. But I've been there, done that. It didn't really work out for me because she just couldn't give me what I needed. It takes two to tango.


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23 Sep 2012, 9:53 pm

AwkwardlyBorderline wrote:
Thanks SpiritBlooms. :) Well, I guess it really is just me she isn't talking to. On her tumblr account some anonymous person just told her she was beautiful and she thanked them and said that they should cone off anon so she coukd talk to them. I don't know what I did wrong. I gave her space the best I could and she left me in the dark. She won't even tell me that she wants nothing to do with me. I'm confused. Should I assume that she's done with me, or is there still a chance she will talk to me? She's not giving me any answers. At this point I'd be happy to just be friends and not be anything more. See, we had feelibgs for each other, yes, but we were friends too. Friends are hard to come by for me. I only have one other friend, who is also an aspie, and she is currently withdrawn so I can't go to her. I guess I'm an aspie magnet? :) I don't make friends easily because of the Borderline PD. I can't make eye contact, and I'm painfully shy and awkward. I have trouble reading body language and knowing what people expect of me. I never know what to say. I crave social interaction, but I suck at it and so I fear it. I stay alone rather than face rejection. I guess that's why I find it so easy to talk to aspies and vice versa. I guess it's time to toss the towel in on this one?


I wouldn't put up with that. It sounds like she doesn't give a damn about your feelings if you are the only person she's ignoring and you've told her how that makes you feel. An aspie girl did this to me once and it hurt like hell and I had a meltdown and said some things I shouldn't have. I think you handled it very well. However if your girl is like the girl I had then she isn't responding just because she doesn't care about you and it is inconvenient for her to try to figure out how to say it.



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24 Sep 2012, 9:59 pm

Well it's done and over with. I sent her a text last night asking why she could talk to random strangers on tumblr, but she couldn't even be bothered to reply to any of my messages. I told her that I thought I was deserving of a response, and an honest one at that. I told her to tell me the truth, even if she thought it was something I wouldn't want to hear. No response at all. Noyhing. I'm upset and disappointed, hurt and a little mad too. It's not easy for me to trust people, and I trusted her and she broke it. I just don't understand why she did what she did. Especially after saying she was never one to walk away from someone. Oh well. I won't let a bad experience with her turn me off from aspies. I know all aspies can't be like that. Time to go off and nurse my wounds on this one. Thanks for all the advice, guys. :)



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25 Sep 2012, 8:47 am

AwkwardlyBorderline wrote:
Well it's done and over with. I sent her a text last night asking why she could talk to random strangers on tumblr, but she couldn't even be bothered to reply to any of my messages. I told her that I thought I was deserving of a response, and an honest one at that. I told her to tell me the truth, even if she thought it was something I wouldn't want to hear. No response at all. Noyhing. I'm upset and disappointed, hurt and a little mad too. It's not easy for me to trust people, and I trusted her and she broke it. I just don't understand why she did what she did. Especially after saying she was never one to walk away from someone. Oh well. I won't let a bad experience with her turn me off from aspies. I know all aspies can't be like that. Time to go off and nurse my wounds on this one. Thanks for all the advice, guys. :)

I'm sorry, but it seems as if maybe it's for the best. It could be she uses the whole shutdown routine as a way of manipulating others.



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25 Sep 2012, 6:51 pm

I don't think you can really expect a significant other to visit you at the hospital unless you've been in a serious relationship for a while. To draw an extreme, would you expect a one-night stand to come to the hospital if you became ill a few days/weeks after hooking up with her?

Again, I have no idea how serious your relationship was but that's the first thing that came to mind when I saw she cut you off.



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17 Oct 2012, 1:50 pm

So sorry to hear about the pain of your situation. Only your friend can answer your questions but unfortunately she may not be able to do so now.

I have a male aspie friend who is my business partner and he has been in an emotional shutdown with me for 2.5 months. I saw him in a similar situation a year ago with someone he was seeing and it went on for 4 months. He has been in a multi year shutdown with his oldest son, also an aspie.

I get text messages every now and then but they are mostly argumentative. He does not know how to "fix" the situation and neither do I.

My advice. Occasionally send a nice message. "Hope you are well" And go on with finding others to occupy your time. Exercise, meditate. I am continuing with the business alone.



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17 Oct 2012, 5:17 pm

Oh my goodness reading your post is like my own only we don't mention labels because it is so much easier. I was in intensive care unit and seriously ill and my Aspie said he was in Bristol which I knew was a lie because he uses Bristol in his lies (and doesn't get I have a good memory!) this was ages ago though in the beginnings of our relationship after a stress attck of his when he was in a shutdown (damn us in hospital and them in a shutdown is never good timing is it?!?!)

Anyway, he told me much later that he was scared of hospitals and panicked and also didn't want to come in case he couldn't give me what I expected which was a shoulder to cry on as he knew it was very serious, I was on oxygen and had lots of drips,

I would say, that this probably frightens her and is a bit overwhelming for her so don't jump to conclusions do hang in there.... I don't bother talking to many people about my relationship with my Aspie because he is labelled by so many "unlovable" because he pushes everyone away, it is a challenge but he is worth it and as I stick to my guns he and I are getting closer.

It can be hurtful I know but do pm me if you ever need to rant/chat/ voice off etc .



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12 Jun 2014, 7:12 pm

SpiritBlooms wrote:
Are you sure she was checking her messages/texts during this time? Is it possible she isn't even aware that you were hospitalized? If not, then certainly expressing hurt feelings isn't going to help matters. She also might be a person who has a lot of trouble handling others' illnesses. I am like that, and it's taken a lot of maturing through the years for me to be able to respond appropriately even when someone close to me is ill. I still don't cope very well. It's not that I don't feel anything, it's that my feelings become too intense for me to handle. So don't assume it's because she doesn't care. She might care so much that the situation completely paralyzed her, and chastising her over it will just make matters worse.

I remember once in high school I lost a friend because I had no idea how to respond to her telling me about her sister being seriously ill. I later realized my blanking out was the reason she no longer spoke to me, but at that point I was unable to explain to her why it happened. (I only learned about Asperger's a few years ago, so lots of things through the years have been completely mysteries to me and to those who knew me.)

In any case, I hope you're feeling better now and recovering. My husband had shingles years ago, and I know that can be a distressing condition. An allergic reaction on top of that - OMG! (And I'm adding this as an afterthought - see? I'm still this way!)


The best I saw in my parents was when a friend, family member, or coworker would be sick. My folks would make a big fuss--visit, call, bring things to them in the hospital, and run errands. However, with the exception of when I had hepatitis, they never made a fuss over me--maybe because I enjoy being sick. When I would say I wanted to go the hospital, they would mimic and make fun of me instead of seeing me as seriously disturbed.

I have a goal in mind now--to be transported by ambulance to the hospital by every service in neighboring counties. That would be something to achieve--I may even act crazy during each trip.

Why are psychiatric patients treated different from NTs when they are sick? No one visits them and they get very little sympathy.



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12 Jun 2014, 7:16 pm

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My father had shingles twice, I had it once, and it's not fun. The best meds for it work best if taken within the first few days. I didn't know what was wrong with me and kept trying different things I had at home to treat it until it got bad enough to freak me out. At that point I called my parents to drive me to the hospital emergency room, as I was in too much pain to drive. The doc recognized what it was at once, and I was still just within the best time limit for the most effective meds to work, so that was good, and fortunately, I didn't have an allergic reaction. I did however have trouble with the side effects from the opioid pain med they gave me along with the other meds. As soon as I could stand the pain on my own, I took myself off that opioid-- and had withdrawal symptoms for several days! That was still better than having the bad side effects, especially since I knew any withdrawal symptoms would only be temporary.

I am glad you got help for the shingles and the allergy emergency, and are on the mend.

As for your friend's shut down, I am usually in a mild state of shut down, with occasional more severe bouts. I generally keep the phone ringer and the answer machine volume turned all the way down. Once or twice a week I will check the messages, and return calls if I need or want to. I am very much a non social, introverted hermit, so I prefer solitude to a very great extent. Also, if I am having trouble handling input I tend to shut it out, or back away from a situation. Your friend may be the same way on some things.

Don't write her off yet, but you do need to decide if you want a serious relationship with someone prone to severe shut downs. If not, then just consider her a casual friend. If you want a serious relationship with her you need to realize that serious shut downs will be part of the package.

Hope you make a full recovery from your shingles attack, and that you never get another bout of it. :D



Usually when someone I know is sick, I don't give a s**t, wishing that it was me who was sick. To show you what I mean, I never visit the hospital, but I am more than happy to go to the funeral home--that way I am not bothered by long pathetic stories.



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12 Jun 2014, 8:43 pm

I am an aspergers woman and can relate to your hurt acutely. I was hospitalised in 2012 after two small strokes. My Aspergers boyfriend (whom I had been in a relationship with for 25 years) never visited me, asked how I was, and said he was "busy". I am solicitous and supportive to all my friends when they experience illness/major setbacks.

That was it for the relationship. I came out of hospital, made a complete recovery, and ended the relationship. He accused me of "just playing teenage games". He is still trying to weasel his way back into my life as if nothing happened. No way would I have him back, not ever.

I don't think it was his ASD as much as his narcissism. When he wanted support, I was always the first port of call, when I needed support, he was nowhere to be seen.

I'm glad I saw the light and dumped him. Am much happier now and with someone who loves and cares about me - also an ASD man. So they are not all bad! The current partner is much younger than the former partner. So there are some generational attitudes at work in this too - many men of the age of my former partner (born 1940) were totally into the double standard, expected women to wait on them, never the reverse - so I am well rid of him :)



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13 Jun 2014, 12:50 am

AwkwardlyBorderline wrote:
She's been posting on her tumblr, so I know ahe's alive and well. I have a best friend who is also and aspie, and she's shut down for several weeks to two months at a time, where I don't hear drom her, so I know that some shutdowns can last a while. I'm kind of stuck in a hard place, because I want to ask her what's going on, since she said I probably would only not hear from her for a few days, and I want to know if I did something wrong or what. But I also know that texting her asking questions during a shutdown is probably only going to stress her out and drive her away from me. I'm scared and kind of depressed, not only do I face not knowing if she'll ever talk to me again, I face not knowing if when/if she does talk to me if it will only be as friends.


I'm betting she's suffering from depression.



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13 Jun 2014, 7:41 am

BPD tends to involve maximum-levels of emotional dependence, pervasive attention-seeking and validation, unrestricted manipulation tactics and explosive fears of abandonment at the slightest reduction in interaction. Aspies often have difficulty grasping the nature of feelings (especially in others), are repelled by failure to respect our 'alone time', very easily manipulated and are often accused of being aloof/distant. You couldn't ask for a worse match regarding these base stereotypes - but a horrible match is "perfect" for the BPD case because it will provide endless fuel to habitually destroy themselves with. I cannot emphasize enough how BPD and AS should never mix.



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13 Jun 2014, 8:00 am

B19: I'm glad you were able to break it off with the guy. He was rather a creep, if you ask me. People with ASDs do care about other people (Maybe they have to be reminded, though).



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13 Jun 2014, 8:47 am

She is just a selfish cow. Move on.


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