what are asperger men problem
Although I do normally agree with you, aspiesandra.
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I almost don't WANT to agree, but I'm afraid there's a lot of truth to it...
My sister is a good example of this. She's morbidly obese (easily +300 lbs) has terrible hygiene, smells gross, never brushes her teeth (which are blackened, broken, stinking and rotting out of her head).... and she always has a boyfriend of some kind shacking up with her for all the free sex they can stand.
OTOH...
Seems like the few single gals my age want me for nothing but sex! I'll pass, thanks! I won't settle for anything but a real, loving relationship.
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Your Aspie score: 101 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 111 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
aspie men are a lot of times doomed. I do find it funny though that guys like me who have mild aspie score less than guys like aspie otaku who scored 193/200 on the aspie test tht player
Ok I get men approach women. But wouldn't asperger women have a hard time staying in a relationship. I can understand a man asking out an asperger women but shouldn't asperger women ''issues'' be hard for her to keep the date.
I go back to my ocd women. I watch quite a few documentry on women with very severe ocd. and all the women were unable to keep a relationship.
One women said that every time she bought a man to her place. The men would just leave, like right away, and she was very upset that no man would stay with her. If men are so willing to stay with a asperger women for more than 5 years. Why can't men stay with women with very bad ocd for 5 years.
and these women on the documentry were not ugly. They were attractive.
all these ocd women and women with weird obsession in these documentry were able to get into a date but none of the men they dated stayed with them. I always thought asperger women too would get a date and then the men would just leave them. But it don't look like that.
to what I notice, very few aspie women really don't have much issues when comes to dating. they date as well as the average nt women.
That not a bad thing. But it so interesting to me, how a person can so much ''issues'' in all other area (making friends, reading body language,stuff like that) but are able to get into a long loving relationship with very few problems.
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It comes down to this: The traits that AS tend to convey are generally much more damaging to a male's attractiveness than to a woman's attractiveness.
Let's take the shyness for example: Shyness is usually seen as far more tolerable in women than men, where it is essentially seen as nothing more than weak, and nothing turns off women more than a guy that seems weak.
For another example with the same trait, shyness is very damaging to a man's ability to initiate on a woman, whereas being shy isn't nearly as detrimental to a woman in that respect, because they generally initiate far less (And there's no shortage of men that will chase after them even if they give off absolutely no signals).
There you have it. Life sucks more for men with AS, but we have no choice but to just get over it.
I like this explanation.
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However, women who don't "give it up" don't have it easier. Just doesn't seem to be a lot of them these days
True.
Men and women have different problems.
Women might attract partners easier, but not neccesarily the right kind of partner. Aspie women might not be able to pick up on predators, and users, cheaters, etc.
Men might not be able to attract anyone at all, because NT women (excluding yourself ) are often put off by aspie behaviour. I've been told I'm decent looking, polite, kind, good personality, etc, and yet I struggle to get noticed by women at all.
So I guess either way, men and women with Aspergers might have trouble finding the right partner. Women get the wrong kinds of men, men get nobody at all. I suppose neither of these outcomes sounds particularly pleasant.
If I only stick to the title of this thread and not going into the debate of men with AS having it harder than women with AS. Then in my opinion, being too honest, is a problem, which makes you seem weak. Weak because you disclose your "negative" aspects. Just mentioning autism, which could be seen as different, is instead perceived as a disability and you there for weak. Not a potential mate. It feels that women set the rules/terms by saying you should be honest, but when you are. It all goes belly up. When a woman is tired of setting the rules and want the man to take over, the AS man seem to fall flat on his face when they miss their cue.
I'm not promoting that women with AS are not having any difficulty or less than men with AS. I'm not a woman so I cannot say what they are going through. It does seem that they have their own set of problems with some that overlaps with men.
Yeah, it does actually. No decent girl wants a slob. It's not the only thing, but it's definitely important. It also helps if you exercise and take care of your body. When guys exercise, it shows initiative and perseverance. You also have to be considerate and respectful. You need to be attentive to the woman. Most women can easily tell when a guy is desperate and it's a huge turn-off. There are body language books out there that are really helpful. You have to memorize them and apply what you learned to real life.
You realize you're proving his point, right? All women gotta do is exist.
How did you get that from what you quoted?
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You notice how it's both gender that struggle. but when comes to asperger only men struggle in relationship at a higher odd. (not saying no asperger women does but men have it worst)
you actually don't know that. there are no studies to back you up, no evidence whatsoever. that's what is so frustrating about these threads - they come from the point of view of the people who are not successful. the successful aspie males are not posting on L&D day in and day out, they are out living life (yet interestingly when females get into relationships they often still post here). so there is a skewed idea that most aspie men are not successful because there are so many that complain on the board! it says nothing at all about how many successful aspie men there are in total, or how many unsuccessful aspie women there are in the real world.
in my real life aspie group, 80% of the aspie females that i met were single. that's about the same ratio as the males in the group. you can't glance at the people who post in one area of one forum and proclaim which gender has it harder. it just isn't accurate.
i am truly starting to feel like misery doesn't love company. misery is some kind of a bloody competition and some people will not be happy until they are told that they have it so much wore than _X_ group. well guess what? there ain't no yardstick for suffering.
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That's not what she said when she took it out.
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Maybe you just got this impression because there are more men with autism than there are women? Or because women don't get so obsessed with being a virgin that they post about it excessively? Or hundered of other possible factors. You've based your assumptions on few articles/documentaries - maybe the AS women who struggle with relationships just don't go public about it as often as men or as often as people with OCD or whatever?
Have you considered that you might not finding the answer to "why" it's harder for men because that's not actually true in the first place?
aspie men are a lot of times doomed. I do find it funny though that guys like me who have mild aspie score less than guys like aspie otaku who scored 193/200 on the aspie test tht player
Ok I get men approach women. But wouldn't asperger women have a hard time staying in a relationship. I can understand a man asking out an asperger women but shouldn't asperger women ''issues'' be hard for her to keep the date.
I go back to my ocd women. I watch quite a few documentry on women with very severe ocd. and all the women were unable to keep a relationship.
One women said that every time she bought a man to her place. The men would just leave, like right away, and she was very upset that no man would stay with her. If men are so willing to stay with a asperger women for more than 5 years. Why can't men stay with women with very bad ocd for 5 years.
and these women on the documentry were not ugly. They were attractive.
all these ocd women and women with weird obsession in these documentry were able to get into a date but none of the men they dated stayed with them. I always thought asperger women too would get a date and then the men would just leave them. But it don't look like that.
to what I notice, very few aspie women really don't have much issues when comes to dating. they date as well as the average nt women.
That not a bad thing. But it so interesting to me, how a person can so much ''issues'' in all other area (making friends, reading body language,stuff like that) but are able to get into a long loving relationship with very few problems.
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Your Aspie score: 101 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 111 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
Have you considered that you might not finding the answer to "why" it's harder for men because that's not actually true in the first place?
Im not saying that no asperger women ever struggle to get or keep a date or that every asperger men can't get a date but asperger women have alot higher odds of getting a date than asperger men.
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