DataSage’s Alpha Male Guide to Meeting Women (JULY UPDATE!!)

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Here's what I'm starting to kind of think: Dave DeAngelo advice is good to take all the way only if your *that* sort of guy who lives in the sort of mental image of the world he's created. If being quiet is really just you being a stunted version of yourself through lack of confidence and being who he mentions is feasible and you'd be happy with the results. However if your whole personality and what's its grounded on is out of phase with natural law or if you have a different sort of energy to you than the standard guy or a different personality - you can take bits and pieces just to have women's respect but much more it'll probably backfire. The problem is it seems like women just know what they like and don't like almost off the start and even just about by looking at how your built - facial structure, hair, expressionality, things you can't fully control or can't at all in some cases. Stuff like that overrules personality unless the personality your projecting is really who you are at heart or alternatively if its a fake act to get laid that your sheisty and fake at heart. Yeah, there's a narrow path you can walk down with this but some people's personas, personalities, and emotionalities are built to where they can have success with this - plenty of guys could never do this and who just don't do well with women at all no matter what they do (getting them to stop needing anyone or stop caring what women think, to start cracking on em a bit playfully - it gets em the peace of mind in the sense that they don't feel like their world rises and falls on women but still that's it - it doesn't do anything for their chances of actually landing anything), a lot of these guys also aren't dorks or anything of the like which is the funniest part about it. Also emotional depth, connection to things that are deeper and more complex that are outside the breeding and fighting machine dynamics - huge strike against any guy really and often enough to negate almost anything unless he's just that glib.

I don't care to attract all the p**** and attention from girls , i can't be an alpha male and i am not interested to be one ..... i am interested in finding just ONE partner ...I don't care to make scores of how many girls I dated , and I guess many aspies agree with me here .
So i guess the whole thread is useless for most of the aspies.

Where's the guide for meeting a man

Many, maybe, but definitely not all. The whole reason DataSage is making this thread is to make it possible for men to have more success, and generally have a better chance of finding a happy lifelong relationship. If you get with the first girl you meet, or if youve met very few, this limits you possibility of being with someone who your truly happy with, it just makes sense.

One thing I'de like to point out is that this alpha male figure is basically someone who "owns" situations, and knows it(nothing wrong with this). If you can do this all the time, everywhere you go, meeting a girl should be no problem. And i know, i know, its tough for us aspies to do this, but all it really takes is true confidence.

Think about it, if your ever going to be considered mating material(to put it bluntly), you must be someone who can take care of this girl, she needs someone who will make her feel safe, secure, and of course entertained(SUPER important). She doesnt want someone she needs to take care of or console. And generally, if your comfortable enough about yourself, you end up(at least most people) treating a girl like DS ends up describing in the algorithm. And girls KNOW this, they can sense it, see but to really make this believable to them is to LIVE this way, not just act it in front of them. And of course, not all girls will like you, you just have to accept that, which why the putting girls on a pedestal thing is important. Dont think of this girl as the judge of your manhood(I think men subconsciously feel this sometimes), she might be part of the jury(dependent on you, ie the type of girls you like)but she doesn't have the final say, YOU do.

The alpha male personality is more of a lifestyle not an act, i guarantee you that if you can be the type of person to execute steps I-IIV, your very confident about yourself in all situations.




Man thats easy, if your slightly attractive then you just play the naive girl role and and let yourself be reeled in. If your after slightly more shy guys, then you might have to pick up the slack and put some of DS's tips to use, like I said, the alpha male personality is more of a lifestyle, and executing the steps DS gives is a natural byproduct. The reason i think its easier for girls is because they can say pretty much anything, and if the guy likes her, he'll respond. A guy has to be a little more creative to entertain a woman, not just by pointing stuff out. IE...

Woman- "Wow, that girls hair is waay to short"

Alpha male - "totally, i mean, i wouldnt be able to hold it like handle bars when we'de be getting busy" LOL

See but here, a girl can say pretty much anything, sadly this is in relation to how hot you are. But if the guy wants some action, he'll definitely play along to whatever.

Uhm...is there a guide like this for Aspie women? I’ve never had anyone interested in me or a date in my entire life.

I must compliment you on this amazing topic I feel more casual each time I read it, my success has not come but knowing that you've been through these experiences and can counter them with a logical and care free perspective is amazing albeit admirable by myself

"I tip my hat to your success" ^_^

Contact me, and I'll give it to you.

Honstly, I meet more men than any girl could want. I guess it won't help if they're queer, eh?

As for books, I highly suggest Mystery's Venusian Arts (also now he has written Magic Bullets). This book really explains the basics of seduction.

i saw your deviant page posted on your profile ( don't accuse me to be stalker , profiles are for public ) and i think this is your picture posted there . So what i think ,
that you will have NO problem in finding a man ....just be nice and approach them bit more and you will someone suitable for you .

Women don't really need a guide unless if they are seriously ugly

I still stay alone.

Yeha then I say all sorts of stupid s**t, or try and hurt them, or then theres when I just start crying for dellusional paranoid reasons - my god, of course I have NO problems finding a guy! Whyyy did I ever doubt myself? -.-

Srsly anyone know any sites that teach normal behaviour?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... ic&t=28730

I find that the link in this thread may be THE single most valuable piece of information that I've seen. Far more valuable than most of the stuff that's been stickied. It contains information that is not just useful in flirting, as well.

Now let's look into the deep inside: The whole process of the stuff relies on one thing: confidence (for being precise: self-confidence). Am I right? If I'd have confidence, the whole process could be an easy play by following those
But confidence for AS people seems to not being a regular accessory (at least not for me). And it is the really-hard-to-gain stuff.
I examined myself, when I can gain any little particle of confidence, and turned out for myself, I gain it whenever I playing a key role in anything, for example if somebody is relying on my own work (for the 'cause (s)he cannot do it alone) or I do things better than anyone in my environment. BUT to earn this I have to be extra-talent (but I'm not that) or at least more talent than anyone nearby. If some guy turns to be better or at least being on the same level, that brings out the problem of replacenessity, which can ruin the whole hardly earned confidence I have. And I say that, every time your confidence is ruined to rock bottom, it's harder and harder to get back it, and for AS people this damage starts from the point they get in contact with any else commuinty than their family (For first step, the bullies in kindergarten for example).

If that's hard to understand, I give a live example:
I take photographs for 12 years (you can assume then I'm not a noob for the subject). My parents, and close relatives say I take pretty damn good photos. Okay, from this point I gain some confidence ("Hmm yeah, I do something, what is good for others, so I'm a necessary piece"). And I go and browse the web, and accidentally run up against a photo community's page, and I notice that my pictures are nowhere from those. From that point the whole confidence is ruined. Okay, I know they have more advanced DSLRs, and they can also have the budget for L series objectives, but there must be a percentage share remaining in their productiveness that doesn't rely on the equippedness, rather that they are more gifted than me.

then your problem might be in your behavior but not in attracting one .You will learn how to behave , we all do....you won't repeat the same mistakes you did ...you will become more mature ..etc .
At least you have no problem in the attracting part which is the first and the hardest part.

For crying out loud, two women ask for where they can get advice on how to have more success in meeting guys, and the guys shoot them down with things like "Well, I saw your picture, you shouldn't have any trouble attracting guys."

Yeah, until, one.) the guy figured out something was wrong with you, or/and two.) the guy's majorly an ass.

An AS woman is willing to give a guy a shot if he's nice to her, and not be Adonis or rich. But the guy has to wanting something to do with the woman with AS.

Why is it so damn hard for men to figure that out? Why? Men are god's gift to women, and damn, we're so lucky to have a choice of abusers, criminals, and the morally reprehensible.

And the fact we think that most of the male/female "dynamic" is stupid. A dominant male? Yech. A coy and feminine female? Gag.

The way this whole discussion is happening makes me feel like a freak and an outsider. I feel like I am never going to meet someone who's on my wave length, who's not into trying to be some "dominant" male (which is just a pain in the ass), who can accept what I have to give and accept me for who I am, which is not some cookie cutter submissive female put here for men to breed with.

That's how it all feels.

And Calandale--that article you put up really was the most reasonable thing put up concerning this topic, and thank you for at least being adult and helpful. There still were some things in it I found offensive, but that's MY problem. If anyone is serious about trying to find someone, they'll try the ideas in the article. It did have solid and specific things one could follow, which is good for the literal Aspie...

Now I'm going to go and feel sorry for my worthless ass until I can get a grip, and before I turn into a complete as*hole.

^^**coughhh*** why i am feeling this is addressed against me ???

.hmmm i was honest with her ...this girl is pretty and seems smart so yea i said what it's in my mind .She will have no troubles in attracting any guy .

According to her , her only problem is communication and in maintaining the relation ...that's normal for her becoz she 's autistic , i do have this problem too and most of us have this problem here , so i am not an ass guy that figured out that she has something wrong with her because i have the same problem and i understand her sufferings .

if u go about 1-2 pages previous you will see that i am against this stupid thread ....an autistic can never be an alpha man , as i said before an "alpha man" is extremly NT and it 's quite the opposite of an aspie male

And no , you are not outsider .... and there's males who are not trying to be the sort of "dominant" male but you have to admit that most NT females prefer alpha males that's why many aspies are so deperate so they try to become the opposite of their nature ....but i assure you ...they will never be able to succeed except for the very mild cases.



You're not alone lool , blve me ! I felt that way for weeks after i found out that the girl i was approaching for 4 months (and she was approaching to me too!) is in love with my confident alpha macho friend loool , i found out this just 3 days before valentine while i was preparing a surprise of her looool it was a surprise for me instead . And all this approach thing of hers because she wants to know more abt him , and they dated at the end of the story ....... this happened not long time ago. i felt that i am worthless dumb ass ....But later after thinking a LOT i realized that i was not the ass one but hell i still love her .
Note this was not the only failure and disappointment i got .


I am not seeking for love anymore .... I think there's no someone for everyone ...this is a lie .

I am living like this : focusing on my work , my own life , improving myself ....and If I met the right girl by coincidence then this would be great but i would never make the effort again to go to occasions and parties and pick a girl to approach her nor to change my nature to an alpha NT macho man which is impossible .
And if i won't meet this right girl by coincidence , , which is very probable to happen , ...then it 's all right I 'll still have my job to care for , my home , my pc , my geeky stuff , my activities , my food , my dreams , my WORLD yes I would feel emptiness sometimes but i am getting used to it more and more ...staying single doesn't mean the end of my world and i have no prob in living alone .