Does anyone else find this reprehensible?

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CDHarris
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15 Mar 2007, 4:27 am

I don't see how it would be considered hijacking to discuss the first topic mentioned in the first post. We are discussing the morality of pornographic media because you seemed to have implied that looking for porn is inherently shameful. Someone agreed and gave a hint at their reasoning. I disagreed and elaborated on my thoughts in that regard.

Anyway, if you feel like thread is going off-topic... try to direct it back to the desired topic before you start complaining. If any questions were not answered to your satisfaction, be a bit more specific. Without someone actively guiding a discussion, it will wander. It just happens.



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16 Mar 2007, 9:50 pm

I always thought cheating on your girlfriend or boyfriend was extremely wrong, but then my first time I was with a girl was under these circumstances. Listen, the website is sick, cause MARRIAGE is bigger deal than on the dating level, but I think some people just aren't cut out for commitment. Its probably harder for us to get cause Aspies usually have only a few close friends anyway, but other people, especially young people, are all over the place, they might have one boyfriend at home, one on college campus, and one on another college campus. Its crazy. Keep that in mind and don't so quick to judge.



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17 Mar 2007, 6:00 am

I'm going to preface this by saying that all of my NT friends (even the popular ones) agree with me on this topic.

Exclusivity is to be assumed unless otherwise specified. Unless all of those involved in the example are accepting of a non-exclusive relationship, someone is cheating... and that person is an as*hole. He/she is selfish, greedy, and can no longer be trusted. If you want to be with someone else you ask both parties if non-exclusivity is an option, end the first relationship, or give up on the second one. If someone "can't commit," he/she needs to tell his/her partner before things get too serious. It's that simple. I've never heard a good reason for cheating.



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17 Mar 2007, 6:46 am

Loyalty and sincerity these days are like dirty words,easy come,easy go,everyone knows divorce is rising so they don't think it strange anymore when it happens.
It just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy,because they don't expect their marriage to be forever it isn't.

Most people nowadays really don't give a damn if they hurt someone else as long as their own desires are being fulfilled.
'Sexual liberation' makes people happier,yeah right.

Is divorce/infidelity higher among atheists or devoutly religious people? I wonder.



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17 Mar 2007, 7:30 am

CDHarris wrote:
I'm going to preface this by saying that all of my NT friends (even the popular ones) agree with me on this topic.

Exclusivity is to be assumed unless otherwise specified. Unless all of those involved in the example are accepting of a non-exclusive relationship, someone is cheating... and that person is an as*hole. He/she is selfish, greedy, and can no longer be trusted. If you want to be with someone else you ask both parties if non-exclusivity is an option, end the first relationship, or give up on the second one. If someone "can't commit," he/she needs to tell his/her partner before things get too serious. It's that simple. I've never heard a good reason for cheating.


Sometimes you don't know that you're in a relationship. (aka repo-man)

Then there's a question of what constitutes cheating. Sure, having sex counts; but what about other things, such as just becoming emotionally attached to someone else. This happens to me often. It can be more harmful than a quick fling sometimes.



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17 Mar 2007, 7:44 am

Enigma wrote:
Loyalty and sincerity these days are like dirty words,easy come,easy go,everyone knows divorce is rising so they don't think it strange anymore when it happens.
It just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy,because they don't expect their marriage to be forever it isn't.

Most people nowadays really don't give a damn if they hurt someone else as long as their own desires are being fulfilled.
'Sexual liberation' makes people happier,yeah right.

Is divorce/infidelity higher among atheists or devoutly religious people? I wonder.

"Sexual liberation" and "infidelity" are not the same concept. Sexual liberation is about not seeing sex as a dirty, immoral act... being open about it... liberating it from its social stigmata (the plural of stigma). It's not about having sex with anyone without dealing with consequences, cheating on your partner, lying to someone to get laid, etc. You can see sex as a natural/normal occurrence while still remaining respectful of the feelings of others.



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20 Mar 2007, 10:47 pm

GoatOnFire maybe i can afford the thread some clarity? lol
welll i know men who actually use sites like that all the time, shamlessly and with infinite abandon...
even my ex boyfriend attempted to cheat on me using myspace...
the internet to me is the biggest, saggiest, nastiest, two-bit tricking whore you could imagine on the planet and as many people as there are interested in her services will pay 10 cents for a ride..... sighhh, some knowingly others unknowingly... i don't think theres much use for good old honest, reliable, boring, simple, and generally loving people like me anymore... i'm sadly given up on the general population to provide companionship purely and freely unadulterated in some way...

sighhh humans are a miserable bunch...



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21 Mar 2007, 1:16 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Mitch8817 wrote:
Sex isn't love.


These people are married though. They're supposed to be in love, it makes love seem almost nonexistent.


Goodness where do I start they are SUPPOSED to be in love, granted. But I don't want to frighten you, but that is not how a preponderance of those married actually see the situation.
Love as married is actually a late concept, like letting people have a childhood is just a style that upper class people had in the Victorian times and even THEN they dressed up the darlings like little men and women.

do a little sociological research - you will find this is nothing new, nor necessarily shocking, no matter what your own scruples are.

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21 Mar 2007, 4:27 am

That place should be shut down. A thing which allows people to cheat on their SO is cruel, profiteering, with the potential to cause emotional harm.


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22 Mar 2007, 3:26 am

I hate this. If you're going to be involved with several people, it's only fair that you're honest about it.


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22 Mar 2007, 8:59 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Over 1 million members! What does that say about America? :evil:


It says, to me, that America is a land where self-control is rare in these days and where anyone's willing to sleep with anyone for whatever reason. Bascially, I think this says that America is on the verge of moral bankruptcy.

Thank God I'm so damn picky when it comes to dating, relationships, and marriage.



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27 Mar 2007, 11:18 pm

Sickening! Where's the hope?



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28 Mar 2007, 1:38 pm

Averick wrote:
Sickening! Where's the hope?


It's bent over the table, being anally raped by the hillbilly cop known as instant gratification. :\



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28 Mar 2007, 1:54 pm

Ugh. That site is disgusting.

Although it does demonstrate how little we've progressed as a species...


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