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Vous laissez chat grincheux sortir de là!

Maintenant, où en étais-je? Oh oui, mettre mon masque femme parce que je suis apparemment pas une femme.

I only got the last bit. Not female, then? Sorry.

I am female, but according to the OP that doesn't make me a woman. He just insulted the maturity level of every female that posts here including mine. So we can only "pretend" we're women can we?

Tu n'as pas l'air d'être une femme, blue bean

You win one internet.


OP, you are dealing with people who firmly believe that vagueness makes the Baby Jesus cry.
Try stating clearly what you're on about. Being coherent has generally been found to be a great aid to communication.

Moisha, imo you need to grab some english books. I could suggest a few.You can also listen to english channels, like the BBC for example. You have a wide variety selection of books on autism related conditions.

You read as if you are either completely demented or on drugs. Either way, you need help and I don't think it is here that you will find it. I personally feel as if you are making a mockery of all of us, especially women with ASD (regardless of your gender which I don't care about). Even if you *are* also on the spectrum, you have no right to be offensive to women, directly or indirectly.

I'm not usually this confrontational, but thought I would follow your advice partially, and indulge in some role play.

How is that for "blunt as a sledge-hammer and not tongue-tied"?

as a preamble:

during communication aspies tend to include too much information or exclude vital information that makes understanding easier or even possible!! !! !

blue bean:

I'm highly proficient at roleplaying a woman!
[that's your opinion not mine. i haven't met you yet. god! or even seen you for that matter.]

I am female
[the lady doth protest too much]

, but according to the OP that doesn't make me a woman. He just insulted the maturity level of every female that posts here including mine.
[well isn't a.s. a developmental disorder anyways? if you find the way i communicate offensive read what so-called scientists have said about autistics.]
So we can only "pretend" we're women can we?
[consider current social opinion of what is being accepted as womanly.

i am not saying you are not a female, i just wanted you to role-play being an asperger woman, because a lot of professionals and even aspie women want aspie women to be something else. something like a handbag, bird, carrot or train. NOT!]

role-playing assumes mindfulness...]

[if you are a woman, then stop wasting your time trying to prove yourself one or demanding that you be seen as one or looking for validation from some source outside yourself.]


aspiesandra27:

Moisha, imo you need to grab some english books.
[yes ma'am. of course, ma'am. as soon as the library police lets me out.]

I could suggest a few.
[i know you are just on fire to print that long list of "books the aspie community, speaking advanced english holds in high esteem. well don't let me hold you back from printing your precious list. you have my permission to go right ahead, dear.]

You can also listen to english channels, like the BBC for example.
[how about i just stick to reading first - i bet it's going to be a long list i'll receive from you.]

You have a wide variety selection of books on autism related conditions.
[naw, i prefer looking in the mirror every morning when i practice my ninja eye-contact skills and cowboy stare down.]

You read as if you are either completely demented or on drugs. Either way,
[does it really matter which way? you seem to have analyzed the situation with all your clinical skill and knowledge, made a judgment and have a solution. how pretentious...]

you need help and I don't think it is here that you will find it.
[actually, interacting with you guys is the best help i've had so far. confusion and misunderstanding and prejudice and whatnot at the touch of a button. how awesome is that... and i don't even need to walk to the store.

PS referrals are in order.]

I personally
[pleonasm, right there, missy! or redundancy or whatever(courtesy of south park)]

feel as if you are making a mockery of all of us, especially women with ASD (regardless of your gender which I don't care about). Even if you *are* also on the spectrum, you have no right to be offensive to women, directly or indirectly.
[how to kill a mockingbird? step one, find a person(preferably female if you're a male and that's your thing), step two, ask her out on a date(hopefully not the library), step three, have your life in order(perhaps this should be step one-anyway i am a little pressed for time), because you are going down, brother - certain women want you to learn the hard way, like all male aspies on WP.]


I'm not usually this confrontational, but thought I would follow your advice partially, and indulge in some role play.
[you call what you're doing confrontational. hell, aspiesandra27, having the c...p beaten out of you is perhaps confrontational. this here is just what i've come to expect from the world, particularly from people - lay and professional - who i have approached to "help" me.

you react negatively to me, but you cannot exactly say what makes you react so negatively.]

How is that for "blunt as a sledge-hammer and not tongue-tied"?
[imo your tongue is tied behind your back or you're sitting on it or whatever... why would you need my opinion on being "properly" blunt? i am the one in need of "proper" social etiquette, right?]

kind regards

PS if this is offensive or confrontational, let me know. and indicate what bits are so and the reasons. i really am trying to type with my kid gloves on, like bluemax guessed.

you call what other people think and say sh** and you have the gall to call me prejudiced... lol

regards

does having a penis and no boobs make me a man? any takers - have a field day, people LMAO

You could have been born a women in a man's body, right?

I have wasted too much of my precious time on you.

You're one of those people who craves attention, and will do anything to obtain it.

Don't even bother answering, because as far as I am concerned, and from this moment on? I have never heard of you.

I have enough toxicity in my life already.

If that's the way you want to go about asking for help? Good luck. You will need it.

Hmm, I agree with Master moisha on one thing here:
He's right about the penis thing, having a penis does not make one a man.
When women on dating websites say "I want a real man" (the most common phrase); they surely don't mean they want a male with a real penis.

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Thanks for that boo.

I was having an existential crisis about a thread on this section going on for 4 pages without anyone pointing out their own views of gender prejudices and such.

You cant confuse them long enough moisha, we are back to the usual business

aspiesandra27:

I have wasted too much of my precious time on you.
[and here i was under the impression you were interested in helping fellow-aspies, such as yourself. now helping is a "waste of time". what an utterly ridiculous notion.]

You're one of those people who craves attention, and will do anything to obtain it.
[assumption - you're just so full of it. tsk tsk. if i was willing to do anything to get attention i might've posted some pics of my inordinately big balls.]

Don't even bother answering, because as far as I am concerned, and from this moment on? I have never heard of you.
[yeah, this is what i've come to expect from the "helping aspie females" on this site.]

I have enough toxicity in my life already.
[now where have i heard this one before? oh the chernobyl disaster or was it the gulf war? whatever.]

If that's the way you want to go about asking for help? Good luck. You will need it.
[i don't need luck. i just have my work cut out for me, one of the males in this thread has said. i assume, under correction, that other males have had similar c..ppy experiences from the self-appointed "nursing" staff on this forum.]

[the person i sought help from had to have a few characteristics - working knowledge of ToM, self-awareness, analytical skill, unconditional acceptance and time/ patience, ability to detach from ego/ perceived self. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?(i'm not yelling here, just trying to draw your attention to something.)

more characteristics: a hair trigger funny bone, wickedly irreverend, blunt as a sledge-hammer and not "tongue-tied".

obviously, you do not satisfy these simple prerequisites. (instead of being a spectrumite you've turned out to be a tantrumite - sorry, i meant you've turned yourself into a tantrumite.) and if you do not have these qualities, in heaven's name, what MOTIVATED you to get into it?

furthermore, what did you base your assumption on, that these prerequisites were negotiable? they are specifically stipulated for a reason. do you know what that reason is? you assumed you did? you seem to assume lots of things.

anyway, thanks for your interest. perhaps the other spectrumites are better suited to GIVE YOU what you need.
regards

Seriously... you need to learn to communicate better. It is NOT up to everyone else to try and figure out what your jumble of words is supposed to really mean.
Ironically, the only time you make some amount of sense is when you're hurling insults.

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moisha:

criticisms/ suggestions/ flames or what-have-you are all welcomed

be as aspie as you can muster when you respond to this. PLEASE

ladies, if you can role-play being a woman (this doesn't mean you are not a female - basic biology usually indicates what gender you are "supposed" to be, but i am talking about measurable and congruent motivation and behaviours[behaviours executed consciously and purposely]. ladies, if you want to participate and know how to role-play(in general) and romantic relationships, in particular - not the scientific or popular psych c...p you've read or seen, then jump in. i am talking about the real things that you personally consider romantic and would do. let me know.(you might inadvertently help someone else, too.) romance the aspie way god dammit!! !! !! use your own DISCRETION.

(just a thought. certain aspie females, on this forum and broader site, give advice to guys on how to get lady friends, but i want to date an aspie female and get laid to boot. {NOT NECESSARILY THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE ROLE_PLAY - in sparring knocking out your sparring partner doesn't make you the champion. you still have to fight the champion, right.} //and NO, if i wanted to get onto aspie affection i would've taken the time.// [i take it they - the advisors - sincerely want to help, but the advice doesn't work on these particular females giving the advice.] (i'm not interested in a reason for this, though.) of what use is this kind of advice?)

i would very much like to meet some aspie females with a hair trigger funny bone, wickedly irreverend, blunt as a sledge-hammer and not "tongue-tied" or whatever you can dish out. for god's sake, are you guys out here somewhere. (if i wanted a "real-life" experience right now and wanted to learn through the love-dating forum's loosely and arbitrarily defined "hard way", i would've gone to the store or my nearest brothel, okay. but posting saves me sun tan lotion.)

PURPOSE: to practice, through imaginative role-play, the `fundamentals` of male-female relationships.
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: working knowledge of ToM, self-awareness, analytical skill, unconditional acceptance, time, patience, ability to detach from ego/ perceived self. [in a nutshell - do whatever is necessary to make the simulation be of real use!]

regards fellow off-worlders