men who won't date fat women
Normally when people talk about finding a partner for a relationship, they are not meaning for one night. For one night you need external appearance, ok. But if you are still into external stuff for finding a real partner, one that you want to stay with each other for a life time, then you cant go for external appearance. The wheel must not only spin right now, the wheel must spin in 50 years as well. In 50 years, anyway what you do, your ass will be like pudding, your skin will be loose, shortly: We all will be old ugly bastards one time. And if the only thing that made your partnership wheel spin, was the external appearance of your partner and his/her sex appeal for you, then you will have a pretty bad time. Because that means you will have to change your partner every 15 years. There are enough such guys out there and you can share your time with them. But for me, if someone tells me he is searching a partner for a relationship, when he is really searching a fitting sex partner, that he can change every 15 years when the external appearance is no longer perfect, I´d be pissed because of you lying.
There is nothing bad about not being interested in an earnest relationship right now, and only searching for sexual appealing sexpartners. But then you shouldnt talk about relationships and such stuff. ^^
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Weird, people seem to manage easily to be sexual attracted plastic dolls, by holes in a box, by anuses, by dust hoovers and apple pies but not by a woman that has 10 pounds too much.
"Oh my god, no I can never make love to you, you have ONE wrinkle on your whip because of you having soooo much overweight according to some VIP-persons, that are physical ill due to normal medical standards. I cant make love to you, how shall I get an erection with you being so ugly? Yeah, if you would look like a hoover or one of that wonderful, sexy pink boxes with a hole, you can buy in sex stores, I was able to make love to you, because these are sooooooo sexy and they really turn me on. But no, with a woman that has overweigth? Thats impossible! Oh god, how shall I make love with such a thing?"
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The girl I like now is a bigger girl, yes, but she is so cute to me. I've been seeing a lot more of her lately since she's on break. But I can't really do anything about it. Oh well.
hey, you pretty much are debunking the idea that all single men are just chasing after the ''hot'' woman.
yes, them kind of men exist. there no deny that.
but alot of men who can't get a date, do in fact go after a wide range of women,
and they do go out there and socialize.
Bill, this is the whole irony about it. Guys like us who find most women attractive no matter their shape or look, if we can't get dates, we're told to stop going after the hot women. But what if you find that any type of woman can be beautiful? Does that mean that you just shouldn't try?
Oh my god, for all the times you've accused other men of being white knights, just STOP. It's not that you find any woman can be beautiful, it's that you find ANY WOMAN who would HAVE YOU would be beautiful and it doesn't matter if you guys have any shot of having a functional relationship.
Even the "ugly" people aren't usually going to find a relationship with someone who would've taken ANYTHING that came along very enticing.
And let's be honest about Bill, he's what, thirty something and says he only dates women ages 18-21 or something or and is obsessed with his ex-girlfriend?
It's like you don't care if you make someone else unhappy with you, you just WANT SOMEONE to fill a void. People aren't there to fill your void and you can't keep seeing them that way and expect to find someone you can be happy together with and have them be happy too.
Meems, you don't know anything about me, so kindly stop assuming.
I won't just accept anyone. There are girls who I find attractive physically but wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole because of how they act. Those types are pretty on the outside, but poison on the inside, as I like to say. Meanwhile, I get rejected all the time for stupid reasons like how I look, or the fact that I don't make much money. All the while I get told I'm manly, good with kids, fun to be around, etc. but a lot of people don't even wanna be my friend. THAT'S where I get frustrated, and say yes, I'm a victim. Anybody in that type of situation, where they can't even win at losing, is a victim, whether male or female. Of course you'll see it differently because people are actually attracted to you. Some of those people happen to be creeps, and for that, I apologize. But for people like me, we wonder if we're completely defective, and it ends up becoming a cycle. This is my reality, and I wish I could find a way to accept it without complaining. But the more frustrated I get, the more I complain about it, even at times when it doesn't bother me that much. Depression, and not being able to take meds for it, doesn't help either. This depression came from not knowing WTF is wrong with me to where I get told how awesome I am, but can't get anything going.
Let me tell you a little about myself, since you obviously don't know me very well, even though we've talked on FB a few times. I'm a guy who can see beauty in a lot of things and people. I don't like to go around calling others ugly, because it's something I've dealt with from the time I was 3 years old. Nobody should have the right to call other people that. Even when I was a more positive person, and didn't quite care about finding love, I still found most women to be beautiful. They just are. It's got nothing to do with trying to win their favor. I'm 25 goddamn years old and don't have a lot of female friends. I'm still not gonna turn around and be like "oh that girl's a b***h" like some members here I won't name (one of whom has a username that starts with "T", hint hint). I've watched ladies struggle through being told they're fat or ugly, and also watched men do the same thing. I try to offer words of encouragement to both sides about it, since it's not fun to deal with at all. If you were any kind of attentive towards anything I've said, you'd know that instead of lashing out like this at me. I don't deserve it. And I don't deserve being called a misogynist or a sexist because I think women's lib is better than feminism, either, but that's for a different time and place to discuss.
Of course I care about making the other person happy. That's what the point of a relationship is. It's just that a lot of women I know are personally blinded and can't see what is in front of them, then complain when they get shafted. Men do this sh** too, and it makes me angry. I don't like how you're putting words into my posts and thoughts that just aren't there. That's why I cooled down on posting on this forum. It's bad enough I gotta deal with people saying one thing and doing another, I gotta deal with the passive-aggressive types who like to see things that just aren't there. So now you're trying to say that I'm a white knight, when my sex drive is so low that I don't even care about it anymore? Maybe I was wrong about you after all, meems. If you don't know who the real white knights are, it's no wonder that men give you so much trouble. Not that you deserve to have trouble with them. You don't. But it sure explains a lot.
You're missing what I'm saying entirely. This is what I'm talking about. You don't seem to see other people as anything but props in your life, like you don't even realize all of these people you blame have their own lives and can't be held responsible for your happiness.
And as for "putting thoughts that just aren't there" guess what dude, I didn't bring up sexism or misogyny, or women and men and how that all works.
And what about a member whose name starts with a T? Oh, was that an example of passive aggressive behavior? Vaguely shittalking a member without doing it directly?
Your own behavior is much like what you've complained about. Everyone else is an as*hole, everyone else is unfair to you, everyone else is a white knight, everyone else is blind to the truth etc.
Guess what, everyone else isn't responsible for how you feel and what direction your life goes in.
I don't seem to see other people as people, and just as props, according to you. You weren't saying that when you were sucking up to me on FB. And despite what you say, you still don't know me, but I've seen plenty of your posts lately and they're quite concerning, going as far as attacking all men. It's fine to be gay, but to take your frustrations out on the whole other gender because of it isn't right. It'd be like if I said, "hey, all non-deaf people are stupid!" You can see how that doesn't gel, right?
People are, for the most part, just sheep who follow the herd. Chivalry is bad. Anything good anybody does is bad and insulting. Us good people should be ASHAMED of ourselves for holding the door open for others and saying "excuse me" when we get in the way of other people. Do you realize just how utterly stupid that is? And it's not just part of romance either. You do anything kind even in the job market, and you're Satan. There's no middle ground here. The more kind you are, the more of an as*hole you're seen to be in other people's eyes when you show them you won't take crap from them. This is what's happening to me right now. I'm a good guy with a backbone, and don't deserve this type of treatment. So I stand up for myself each and every time I'm pushed around. And this time, I'm gonna get everything out there. It doesn't matter if I get warned or banned or what.
I brought up sexism because in threads like this, you ALWAYS bring up sexism whenever confronted with a different view. It's tiring. It could be a thread about apples and oranges (literally), and the first thing out of your post is "you're a misogynist!" I brought it up as sort of a way to prepare for it. Don't lie, I can think of at least five times within the last six months that you've pulled the misogyny card to turn the tides of a thread that wasn't even about it in your favor. It's sickening and reminds me of how 90% of NTs act. If I wanted to talk to a bunch of NTs, I'd simply go outside. Or go to work for that matter. But this place, for being full of socially impaired people, has a lot of deceptive and cunning individuals who are pretty much psychopaths. It's no wonder these people get on guys like me, talking about how they're losers who have no friends, when they have no trouble making friends, because they go out of your way to deceive people into thinking they actually like them. Yet you're trying to sit here and tell me how reprehensible I am? Stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.
And yet again, it's just like I said before, you're attacking people who have problems that they cannot control. I can't control how I look without a shedload of money (ballpark figure: 45 grand!). I can't make my Marfan syndrome, which can be potentially life-threatening, my deafness, or my speech impediment go away. Lord knows I've tried. When you live in a world full of people who reject you based on what's on the outside, for no reason other than to stroke their own ego, it becomes a futile effort to even try. Yet human nature is to want to be loved. This is where the conflict comes in. Of course, you completely discounted that and made it seem I'm just some whiny crybaby who actually has everything going for him but won't try (which does apply to a few members here). I wish that was my problem, because then I'd never have trouble with anything ever again. It's not like someone like MR20, who outright admitted that he stinks because he doesn't shower (and therefore repulses women). He can FIX that! Just buy some soap and turn on the goddamn faucet!
BTW, Tyri0n knows that I don't like his white knight BS and I even called him out in a couple threads about it (I'm sure in at least one respect he's a decent guy, but doing s**t like that does him no favors). That's not being passive-aggressive at all. Like I said, if I see a bad nail, I hammer it down. Going behind people's backs is verboten. In the rare case I do, I always let that person know, hey, I don't like what you did and wish you would stop doing it. Of course, it had to be spun to your favor yet again because you have some crush on him just because of how he looks. I noticed a trend here. The guys who do jerky stuff here can get away with doing so and then flip-flopping later.....if they're considered handsome or charismatic. It's happened enough times on here where I can write a book about it. A guy like me even mentioning one negative experience and backing it up with proof is always shot down. It's crazy.
But after all is said and done, I can see how things truly are.
Max is gone, so you need to find some other decent person to throw your s**t at. You've gone from one extreme to the other. Outright praising the hell out of me, to totally vilifying me. The funny thing is, he warned me in a PM that this would happen, and I defended you to the end. Oh, meems would never do that. She's too kind. Too sweet. She totally gets me. Now I feel like a total and utter fool, since usually I can see through people's deceptions. This is the stuff I'M talking about Beth, people like you who can't see the forest for the goddamn trees. It's no wonder I'm frustrated. Anybody who faces the BS I do on a daily basis and can't do anything about it is gonna become angry after a while. This includes you, but since you have a god complex apparently, you don't think that that is the case. So yeah, I blocked you on FB for thinking I'm such a terrible person, and just generally do not wanna deal with people here anymore. I should have left as soon as hyperlexian stopped posting.
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Seems to me a lot of posters on here are talking to each other on Facebook as well and to mods also. Seeing as Facebook is for morons, it explains a LOT!
Why has Max 'gone'?
Has he been banned?
Seems like the idiots on here are on a roll
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence gets kicked out don't they?
Why does the lowest common denominator always triumph in life?
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The girl I like now is a bigger girl, yes, but she is so cute to me. I've been seeing a lot more of her lately since she's on break. But I can't really do anything about it. Oh well.
hey, you pretty much are debunking the idea that all single men are just chasing after the ''hot'' woman.
yes, them kind of men exist. there no deny that.
but alot of men who can't get a date, do in fact go after a wide range of women,
and they do go out there and socialize.
Bill, this is the whole irony about it. Guys like us who find most women attractive no matter their shape or look, if we can't get dates, we're told to stop going after the hot women. But what if you find that any type of woman can be beautiful? Does that mean that you just shouldn't try?
Oh my god, for all the times you've accused other men of being white knights, just STOP. It's not that you find any woman can be beautiful, it's that you find ANY WOMAN who would HAVE YOU would be beautiful and it doesn't matter if you guys have any shot of having a functional relationship.
Even the "ugly" people aren't usually going to find a relationship with someone who would've taken ANYTHING that came along very enticing.
And let's be honest about Bill, he's what, thirty something and says he only dates women ages 18-21 or something or and is obsessed with his ex-girlfriend?
It's like you don't care if you make someone else unhappy with you, you just WANT SOMEONE to fill a void. People aren't there to fill your void and you can't keep seeing them that way and expect to find someone you can be happy together with and have them be happy too.
Meems, you don't know anything about me, so kindly stop assuming.
I won't just accept anyone. There are girls who I find attractive physically but wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole because of how they act. Those types are pretty on the outside, but poison on the inside, as I like to say. Meanwhile, I get rejected all the time for stupid reasons like how I look, or the fact that I don't make much money. All the while I get told I'm manly, good with kids, fun to be around, etc. but a lot of people don't even wanna be my friend. THAT'S where I get frustrated, and say yes, I'm a victim. Anybody in that type of situation, where they can't even win at losing, is a victim, whether male or female. Of course you'll see it differently because people are actually attracted to you. Some of those people happen to be creeps, and for that, I apologize. But for people like me, we wonder if we're completely defective, and it ends up becoming a cycle. This is my reality, and I wish I could find a way to accept it without complaining. But the more frustrated I get, the more I complain about it, even at times when it doesn't bother me that much. Depression, and not being able to take meds for it, doesn't help either. This depression came from not knowing WTF is wrong with me to where I get told how awesome I am, but can't get anything going.
Let me tell you a little about myself, since you obviously don't know me very well, even though we've talked on FB a few times. I'm a guy who can see beauty in a lot of things and people. I don't like to go around calling others ugly, because it's something I've dealt with from the time I was 3 years old. Nobody should have the right to call other people that. Even when I was a more positive person, and didn't quite care about finding love, I still found most women to be beautiful. They just are. It's got nothing to do with trying to win their favor. I'm 25 goddamn years old and don't have a lot of female friends. I'm still not gonna turn around and be like "oh that girl's a b***h" like some members here I won't name (one of whom has a username that starts with "T", hint hint). I've watched ladies struggle through being told they're fat or ugly, and also watched men do the same thing. I try to offer words of encouragement to both sides about it, since it's not fun to deal with at all. If you were any kind of attentive towards anything I've said, you'd know that instead of lashing out like this at me. I don't deserve it. And I don't deserve being called a misogynist or a sexist because I think women's lib is better than feminism, either, but that's for a different time and place to discuss.
Of course I care about making the other person happy. That's what the point of a relationship is. It's just that a lot of women I know are personally blinded and can't see what is in front of them, then complain when they get shafted. Men do this sh** too, and it makes me angry. I don't like how you're putting words into my posts and thoughts that just aren't there. That's why I cooled down on posting on this forum. It's bad enough I gotta deal with people saying one thing and doing another, I gotta deal with the passive-aggressive types who like to see things that just aren't there. So now you're trying to say that I'm a white knight, when my sex drive is so low that I don't even care about it anymore? Maybe I was wrong about you after all, meems. If you don't know who the real white knights are, it's no wonder that men give you so much trouble. Not that you deserve to have trouble with them. You don't. But it sure explains a lot.
You're missing what I'm saying entirely. This is what I'm talking about. You don't seem to see other people as anything but props in your life, like you don't even realize all of these people you blame have their own lives and can't be held responsible for your happiness.
And as for "putting thoughts that just aren't there" guess what dude, I didn't bring up sexism or misogyny, or women and men and how that all works.
And what about a member whose name starts with a T? Oh, was that an example of passive aggressive behavior? Vaguely shittalking a member without doing it directly?
Your own behavior is much like what you've complained about. Everyone else is an as*hole, everyone else is unfair to you, everyone else is a white knight, everyone else is blind to the truth etc.
Guess what, everyone else isn't responsible for how you feel and what direction your life goes in.
I don't seem to see other people as people, and just as props, according to you. You weren't saying that when you were sucking up to me on FB. And despite what you say, you still don't know me, but I've seen plenty of your posts lately and they're quite concerning, going as far as attacking all men. It's fine to be gay, but to take your frustrations out on the whole other gender because of it isn't right. It'd be like if I said, "hey, all non-deaf people are stupid!" You can see how that doesn't gel, right?
People are, for the most part, just sheep who follow the herd. Chivalry is bad. Anything good anybody does is bad and insulting. Us good people should be ASHAMED of ourselves for holding the door open for others and saying "excuse me" when we get in the way of other people. Do you realize just how utterly stupid that is? And it's not just part of romance either. You do anything kind even in the job market, and you're Satan. There's no middle ground here. The more kind you are, the more of an as*hole you're seen to be in other people's eyes when you show them you won't take crap from them. This is what's happening to me right now. I'm a good guy with a backbone, and don't deserve this type of treatment. So I stand up for myself each and every time I'm pushed around. And this time, I'm gonna get everything out there. It doesn't matter if I get warned or banned or what.
I brought up sexism because in threads like this, you ALWAYS bring up sexism whenever confronted with a different view. It's tiring. It could be a thread about apples and oranges (literally), and the first thing out of your post is "you're a misogynist!" I brought it up as sort of a way to prepare for it. Don't lie, I can think of at least five times within the last six months that you've pulled the misogyny card to turn the tides of a thread that wasn't even about it in your favor. It's sickening and reminds me of how 90% of NTs act. If I wanted to talk to a bunch of NTs, I'd simply go outside. Or go to work for that matter. But this place, for being full of socially impaired people, has a lot of deceptive and cunning individuals who are pretty much psychopaths. It's no wonder these people get on guys like me, talking about how they're losers who have no friends, when they have no trouble making friends, because they go out of your way to deceive people into thinking they actually like them. Yet you're trying to sit here and tell me how reprehensible I am? Stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.
And yet again, it's just like I said before, you're attacking people who have problems that they cannot control. I can't control how I look without a shedload of money (ballpark figure: 45 grand!). I can't make my Marfan syndrome, which can be potentially life-threatening, my deafness, or my speech impediment go away. Lord knows I've tried. When you live in a world full of people who reject you based on what's on the outside, for no reason other than to stroke their own ego, it becomes a futile effort to even try. Yet human nature is to want to be loved. This is where the conflict comes in. Of course, you completely discounted that and made it seem I'm just some whiny crybaby who actually has everything going for him but won't try (which does apply to a few members here). I wish that was my problem, because then I'd never have trouble with anything ever again. It's not like someone like MR20, who outright admitted that he stinks because he doesn't shower (and therefore repulses women). He can FIX that! Just buy some soap and turn on the goddamn faucet!
BTW, Tyri0n knows that I don't like his white knight BS and I even called him out in a couple threads about it (I'm sure in at least one respect he's a decent guy, but doing sh** like that does him no favors). That's not being passive-aggressive at all. Like I said, if I see a bad nail, I hammer it down. Going behind people's backs is verboten. In the rare case I do, I always let that person know, hey, I don't like what you did and wish you would stop doing it. Of course, it had to be spun to your favor yet again because you have some crush on him just because of how he looks. I noticed a trend here. The guys who do jerky stuff here can get away with doing so and then flip-flopping later.....if they're considered handsome or charismatic. It's happened enough times on here where I can write a book about it. A guy like me even mentioning one negative experience and backing it up with proof is always shot down. It's crazy.
But after all is said and done, I can see how things truly are.
Max is gone, so you need to find some other decent person to throw your sh** at. You've gone from one extreme to the other. Outright praising the hell out of me, to totally vilifying me. The funny thing is, he warned me in a PM that this would happen, and I defended you to the end. Oh, meems would never do that. She's too kind. Too sweet. She totally gets me. Now I feel like a total and utter fool, since usually I can see through people's deceptions. This is the stuff I'M talking about Beth, people like you who can't see the forest for the goddamn trees. It's no wonder I'm frustrated. Anybody who faces the BS I do on a daily basis and can't do anything about it is gonna become angry after a while. This includes you, but since you have a god complex apparently, you don't think that that is the case. So yeah, I blocked you on FB for thinking I'm such a terrible person, and just generally do not wanna deal with people here anymore. I should have left as soon as hyperlexian stopped posting.
Wow. You have brought up a lot of arbitrary things that have nothing to do with the conversation. I have no idea what makes you think me talking to you A FEW TIMES ON FACEBOOK was me "sucking up" to you. Kindness isn't always "sucking up" despite what you may think being kind means.
But yeah, please leave my sexual orientation out of this, and don't say I'm gay and hate men and then tell me I have a crush on a man. You seem really out of it dude.
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I might take you a bit more seriously meems if your avatar photo didn't appear to be of you in the shower, naked.
Talk about desperate attention seeker. That's all you are basically isn't it? A silly little girl who wants all the men as well as women to be chasing her. All this crap about sexism when you use your own body to attract male attention - it's pathetic.
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Talk about desperate attention seeker. That's all you are basically isn't it? A silly little girl who wants all the men as well as women to be chasing her. All this crap about sexism when you use your own body to attract male attention - it's pathetic.
Odd of you to mention, Nessa, considering there's absolutely nothing you could do to make me take you seriously.
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A big thing that might be troubling you from my oppinion, that you seem to have a bit childish (My english is bad, I dont mean childish in a negative way, but in the way of "not so experienced with human behaviour.) view that having friends or not would be related with you being a nice person. As example: If I am a nice person, I will have friends. If I dont have friends, when I am a nice person, that it has to be that the people surrounding cant see how nice I am.
I wouldnt say, that was completly wrong. But its very incomplete. There is nothing bad about being nice to each other, but for being friends you need to enjoy shared time or interests. As an easy example: I am sure you know a lots of NTs that are nice people, they help their neighbors, are not unfriendly to you, help with other peoples festivites. So there is nothing negative about them, and you can appreciate these people. But you dont want to spend time with them, simply because its no benefit from you. I could compare it with the girlfriends of my partners friends. So they would invite me as example for their cinema evenings. I went there two times for being polite, but its simply so lame. They are talking all the time about topics I cant relate, they are talking during the film -.-, they watch that typical romantic US comedies I cannot stand, because of them trying to be funny, but simply is not funny... its simply a wasted evening for me. And instead of an evening, that I can use to relax, instead I need afterward an evening more to relax, because of it being so exhausting for me. All these girls are really nice ones, and I can appreciate them fully. But I dont want to spend time with them and share their cinema evenings.
And with us its pretty similar. That people dont want to spend their time with us, doesnt have to mean aotumatic that they hate us. They can easily think that we are alright and that there is nothing wrong with us at all. But we often simply dont fit as friends with them, simply because sharing time with us dont give them any benefit and they cant behave naturally as they would like to do. Spending time with us is simply no fun for them. That doesnt mean they hate us, or they think we are bad or whatever, but they simply seek other peoples company out of the same cause we do and have the same needs we do: To feel comfortable in the other persons company.
It seems to me, becausde of all that talking about nice and so on, that you seem to think, that people dont want to share time with you because they would think you were not nice, or not worthy of their time .... so you seem to take that on your self esteem personal.
Its absolutly ok, when nothing works right now as you want, to be sad when your sad. But dont take it on your self esteem. That people dont want to share time with you, doesnt automatic mean that they hate you, or that you would be a bad person in the eyes of others. You are simply a person, that doesnt fit with their personal needs for friends. And thats something they cant help as much as we cant help. Being sad is absolutly ok, but try not to get into blaming, neither you nor others.
Talk about desperate attention seeker. That's all you are basically isn't it? A silly little girl who wants all the men as well as women to be chasing her. All this crap about sexism when you use your own body to attract male attention - it's pathetic.
Odd of you to mention, Nessa, considering there's absolutely nothing you could do to make me take you seriously.
I'm never likely to be taken seriously by people who flaunt semi-naked photos of themselves across the internet to get attention.
I rely on what I say; I don't have to show flesh to draw people in. To talk as if you're the feminist's feminist while having such a photo on display is the height of hypocrisy (as well as stupidity) in my opinion. Then you moan about unwanted attention off men. It all made perfect sense when you posted that photo.
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I'm not going to indulge in your childish behavior, Nessa.
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Yeah! Because real feminists do all the time what society wants from them. So if someone feels offended by a photo that shows wet hair and shoulders (Shoulders! You harlot!) the first thing an independent and free thinking feminist woman, would do was obey society. Feminism is not about freeing yourself from roles that society wants to force you to fulfill and instead simply deciding on your own, what you want to do according to your need. A real independent feminist, always asks everyone else, if they are all pleased with her behaviour, and does never listen to her own wishes!
So if you want to be a feminist, please ask next time the priests wife, what photo of you she would think to be ok as your avatar picture! Simply imagine, that feminists suddenly thought to not behave to societys expectations! And suddenly started not to focus anymore on the things that society wants her to do like cooking, and getting children! You bring shame on all feminists by behaving that way! I mean as a feminist you cant simply act on your own, but have to ask first your husband, or if you are not married yet, your father for his permission before posting a photograph of you! Did you miss our last "feminism group" memo?
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