NT women cant stand aspie men!
Hey guys
I saw this post in the forums, and thought I should add my own thoughts; just in case it applies to anyone here who feels it might help their situation.
I'm don't believe I'm NT, as I'm a self diagnosed Aspie, but I am a girl who understands NT woman in this regard. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, as it is merely advice drawn from personal experience, and studying NTs behaviour and dating practices.
So, if you're an Aspie guy, who finds that NT woman are hard to remain in a relationship with, here are possible reasons and solutions that may help gain some insight as to why, and how to fix it:
#1 - Many women, NT or not, want to fix men. I know this ones been covered several times on this topic, but I thought I'd just reaffirm it, and get it out if the way early on.
So this means they want to change you, and make you a better person, or help you change your ways, so that you can be happier. Know that this is usually done with good intentions, as women are generally nurturing creatures, but is not necessarily always done the right way. I myself understand that you can not change a person, unless said person wants to change, and even then it's always going to be draining on you both.
If this is the case, it is fine to continue as is, but if a woman is on a solo mission, especially when the Aspie guy is unaware, this can burn out the woman, and leads to resentment. This is something women in general need to be aware of too, as to avoid heart ache for both involved. If you feel worried of this happening in your relationship, I would make this concern clear, at the beginning, before even dating; just so they have at least been warned. Even so, be sure to remind them. If you're already I. A relationship, it may be harder, but it may still be beneficial to try it, before there's any bad blood in the relationship.
#2 - relationships are about two people making each other happy. The reason I bring this up is that I've read, or heard, or seen way too many of these cases, where one person gives and gives and gives, while the other simply takes, and never return at he favour. That, or they may simply not provide equal amounts of love, attention, or assistance. This usually ends with the giver feeling resentment, and the receiver arguing that the giver is being over-dramatic, and selfishly ignoring their needs.
What's just as common is that once they do break up, the one used to receiving won't actually realise what they had, until they've lost it, then beg the other to return. If the refuse, they become bitter, but if they do, they may not always change their ways, and things go back to normal. If this sounds familiar, decide which one you are, and try to resolve it appropriately. If you need to give more, try to put more effort in to it, or find someone who doesn't need as much attention (keep in mind you'll get less attention in return). If you're the one always giving, you'll have to make clear that you deserve better, and need to make sure both you and your partner believe this.
#3 - NT women are emotionally complex, and therefore have a higher emotional intelligence, and require those emotional needs to be met, generally speaking. This may be the biggest hurdle for an Aspie guy, as the very definition of your personality may very well oppose this. If this is the issue you face, there are a few things you can try, but it will take work. First, you need to follow steps 1 and 2, make sure they are sorted first. Also, be honest, and communicate your thoughts and feelings. If you're concerned about something, explain this.
Women want to love you, but keep in mind they also want to be loved. Show her you love her, remind her all the time, encourage her, and make her feel special. Also, if you feel she is upset or angry, learn to approach her, and ask why. Explain, and apologise for not understanding what you may have done wrong, and listen to what she says. Woman love to feel appreciated, so the fact that you have approached her to resolve the issue, will allow her to feel you care about this relationship.
#4 - not all women are the same. While it's good to learn how women in general think, remember that like Aspies, we're not all the same. Use your best judgment, or ask a friend for advice, forums, therapists, or even talk to your partner. If you feel they can be compatible with you, hold on to her, and treat her right. If you feel you've done all you can, and the fault may be more on her part, try to make her aware of this. She will either accept this, and try to change, or it could go badly; in which case, I would reconsider the relationship. Just be sure to talk to others, before doing anything rash, as it could just be a misunderstanding. In saying that, some people, both men and women, are crazy; learn to spot them!
#5 - don't pressure a woman to sleep with you before she is ready to. Just because she hasn't yet, doesn't mean she doesn't love you. It just means she's waiting til she's ready. If you're concerned of being friend zoned, tell her your concerns, and hopefully she will advise you of her reasons for withholding.
Relationships require work; if this is too hard, then you may not be ready for a relationship just yet. I could add more later if anyone has questions, but I'll leave that for now. I hope I have helped some understand their situation a bit better.
PS. Sorry about the typos; auto correct dictionary is playing up.
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"If you're not actively involved in getting what you want, you don't really want it."
- Peter MC Williams
I saw this post in the forums, and thought I should add my own thoughts; just in case it applies to anyone here who feels it might help their situation.
I'm don't believe I'm NT, as I'm a self diagnosed Aspie, but I am a girl who understands NT woman in this regard. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, as it is merely advice drawn from personal experience, and studying NTs behaviour and dating practices.
So, if you're an Aspie guy, who finds that NT woman are hard to remain in a relationship with, here are possible reasons and solutions that may help gain some insight as to why, and how to fix it:
#1 - Many women, NT or not, want to fix men. I know this ones been covered several times on this topic, but I thought I'd just reaffirm it, and get it out if the way early on.
So this means they want to change you, and make you a better person, or help you change your ways, so that you can be happier. Know that this is usually done with good intentions, as women are generally nurturing creatures, but is not necessarily always done the right way. I myself understand that you can not change a person, unless said person wants to change, and even then it's always going to be draining on you both.
If this is the case, it is fine to continue as is, but if a woman is on a solo mission, especially when the Aspie guy is unaware, this can burn out the woman, and leads to resentment. This is something women in general need to be aware of too, as to avoid heart ache for both involved. If you feel worried of this happening in your relationship, I would make this concern clear, at the beginning, before even dating; just so they have at least been warned. Even so, be sure to remind them. If you're already I. A relationship, it may be harder, but it may still be beneficial to try it, before there's any bad blood in the relationship.
#2 - relationships are about two people making each other happy. The reason I bring this up is that I've read, or heard, or seen way too many of these cases, where one person gives and gives and gives, while the other simply takes, and never return at he favour. That, or they may simply not provide equal amounts of love, attention, or assistance. This usually ends with the giver feeling resentment, and the receiver arguing that the giver is being over-dramatic, and selfishly ignoring their needs.
What's just as common is that once they do break up, the one used to receiving won't actually realise what they had, until they've lost it, then beg the other to return. If the refuse, they become bitter, but if they do, they may not always change their ways, and things go back to normal. If this sounds familiar, decide which one you are, and try to resolve it appropriately. If you need to give more, try to put more effort in to it, or find someone who doesn't need as much attention (keep in mind you'll get less attention in return). If you're the one always giving, you'll have to make clear that you deserve better, and need to make sure both you and your partner believe this.
#3 - NT women are emotionally complex, and therefore have a higher emotional intelligence, and require those emotional needs to be met, generally speaking. This may be the biggest hurdle for an Aspie guy, as the very definition of your personality may very well oppose this. If this is the issue you face, there are a few things you can try, but it will take work. First, you need to follow steps 1 and 2, make sure they are sorted first. Also, be honest, and communicate your thoughts and feelings. If you're concerned about something, explain this.
Women want to love you, but keep in mind they also want to be loved. Show her you love her, remind her all the time, encourage her, and make her feel special. Also, if you feel she is upset or angry, learn to approach her, and ask why. Explain, and apologise for not understanding what you may have done wrong, and listen to what she says. Woman love to feel appreciated, so the fact that you have approached her to resolve the issue, will allow her to feel you care about this relationship.
#4 - not all women are the same. While it's good to learn how women in general think, remember that like Aspies, we're not all the same. Use your best judgment, or ask a friend for advice, forums, therapists, or even talk to your partner. If you feel they can be compatible with you, hold on to her, and treat her right. If you feel you've done all you can, and the fault may be more on her part, try to make her aware of this. She will either accept this, and try to change, or it could go badly; in which case, I would reconsider the relationship. Just be sure to talk to others, before doing anything rash, as it could just be a misunderstanding. In saying that, some people, both men and women, are crazy; learn to spot them!
#5 - don't pressure a woman to sleep with you before she is ready to. Just because she hasn't yet, doesn't mean she doesn't love you. It just means she's waiting til she's ready. If you're concerned of being friend zoned, tell her your concerns, and hopefully she will advise you of her reasons for withholding.
Relationships require work; if this is too hard, then you may not be ready for a relationship just yet. I could add more later if anyone has questions, but I'll leave that for now. I hope I have helped some understand their situation a bit better.
PS. Sorry about the typos; auto correct dictionary is playing up.
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For some woman this would be the case, but if they've already agreed to take an interest, then these points would be applied to such a situation. It's not about how to get a girl, more how to keep one.
Cool 'L' avatar fyi
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Hart
aka. Vanilla (Aspies Central)
"If you're not actively involved in getting what you want, you don't really want it."
- Peter MC Williams
Cool 'L' avatar fyi
_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList
I saw this post in the forums, and thought I should add my own thoughts; just in case it applies to anyone here who feels it might help their situation.
I'm don't believe I'm NT, as I'm a self diagnosed Aspie, but I am a girl who understands NT woman in this regard. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, as it is merely advice drawn from personal experience, and studying NTs behaviour and dating practices.
So, if you're an Aspie guy, who finds that NT woman are hard to remain in a relationship with, here are possible reasons and solutions that may help gain some insight as to why, and how to fix it:
#1 - Many women, NT or not, want to fix men. I know this ones been covered several times on this topic, but I thought I'd just reaffirm it, and get it out if the way early on.
So this means they want to change you, and make you a better person, or help you change your ways, so that you can be happier. Know that this is usually done with good intentions, as women are generally nurturing creatures, but is not necessarily always done the right way. I myself understand that you can not change a person, unless said person wants to change, and even then it's always going to be draining on you both.
If this is the case, it is fine to continue as is, but if a woman is on a solo mission, especially when the Aspie guy is unaware, this can burn out the woman, and leads to resentment. This is something women in general need to be aware of too, as to avoid heart ache for both involved. If you feel worried of this happening in your relationship, I would make this concern clear, at the beginning, before even dating; just so they have at least been warned. Even so, be sure to remind them. If you're already I. A relationship, it may be harder, but it may still be beneficial to try it, before there's any bad blood in the relationship.
#2 - relationships are about two people making each other happy. The reason I bring this up is that I've read, or heard, or seen way too many of these cases, where one person gives and gives and gives, while the other simply takes, and never return at he favour. That, or they may simply not provide equal amounts of love, attention, or assistance. This usually ends with the giver feeling resentment, and the receiver arguing that the giver is being over-dramatic, and selfishly ignoring their needs.
What's just as common is that once they do break up, the one used to receiving won't actually realise what they had, until they've lost it, then beg the other to return. If the refuse, they become bitter, but if they do, they may not always change their ways, and things go back to normal. If this sounds familiar, decide which one you are, and try to resolve it appropriately. If you need to give more, try to put more effort in to it, or find someone who doesn't need as much attention (keep in mind you'll get less attention in return). If you're the one always giving, you'll have to make clear that you deserve better, and need to make sure both you and your partner believe this.
#3 - NT women are emotionally complex, and therefore have a higher emotional intelligence, and require those emotional needs to be met, generally speaking. This may be the biggest hurdle for an Aspie guy, as the very definition of your personality may very well oppose this. If this is the issue you face, there are a few things you can try, but it will take work. First, you need to follow steps 1 and 2, make sure they are sorted first. Also, be honest, and communicate your thoughts and feelings. If you're concerned about something, explain this.
Women want to love you, but keep in mind they also want to be loved. Show her you love her, remind her all the time, encourage her, and make her feel special. Also, if you feel she is upset or angry, learn to approach her, and ask why. Explain, and apologise for not understanding what you may have done wrong, and listen to what she says. Woman love to feel appreciated, so the fact that you have approached her to resolve the issue, will allow her to feel you care about this relationship.
#4 - not all women are the same. While it's good to learn how women in general think, remember that like Aspies, we're not all the same. Use your best judgment, or ask a friend for advice, forums, therapists, or even talk to your partner. If you feel they can be compatible with you, hold on to her, and treat her right. If you feel you've done all you can, and the fault may be more on her part, try to make her aware of this. She will either accept this, and try to change, or it could go badly; in which case, I would reconsider the relationship. Just be sure to talk to others, before doing anything rash, as it could just be a misunderstanding. In saying that, some people, both men and women, are crazy; learn to spot them!
#5 - don't pressure a woman to sleep with you before she is ready to. Just because she hasn't yet, doesn't mean she doesn't love you. It just means she's waiting til she's ready. If you're concerned of being friend zoned, tell her your concerns, and hopefully she will advise you of her reasons for withholding.
Relationships require work; if this is too hard, then you may not be ready for a relationship just yet. I could add more later if anyone has questions, but I'll leave that for now. I hope I have helped some understand their situation a bit better.
PS. Sorry about the typos; auto correct dictionary is playing up.
I agree with all the 5 points posted. Good advice!!
And Good Luck for the Future, AspieOtaku!!
Re: you point about immaturity & high maintenance.- I have done care giving for members of my family for probably 85% of my adult life for an assortment of different illnesses. The hardest part about it is if the person cannot say 'thank you" in some way, even if it's a smile or a hug. I could not ever do care giving again. I'm burnt out @ this point, & high maintenance would fall under that. But some people can & will do so willingly, until they hit the wall. The point is not to let them hit the wall.
I was sorry to hear about that terrible relationship that you had in the past. WOW!! I can relate to that. I'm pretty sure i dodged a bullet this past year on that sort of situation. It's left me without trust in people, (like you) & I know longer trust myself in judging character in people. I think you may have that problem too. (?)
Talking & conversation help. It can tell you what the other person is thinking, hoping, & wanting. It can also give you some insights, if they are not being honest with you, or have some agenda that you don't want to be part of. Listening is even better than talking @ times!
I saw this post in the forums, and thought I should add my own thoughts; just in case it applies to anyone here who feels it might help their situation.
I'm don't believe I'm NT, as I'm a self diagnosed Aspie, but I am a girl who understands NT woman in this regard. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, as it is merely advice drawn from personal experience, and studying NTs behaviour and dating practices.
So, if you're an Aspie guy, who finds that NT woman are hard to remain in a relationship with, here are possible reasons and solutions that may help gain some insight as to why, and how to fix it:
#1 - Many women, NT or not, want to fix men. I know this ones been covered several times on this topic, but I thought I'd just reaffirm it, and get it out if the way early on.
So this means they want to change you, and make you a better person, or help you change your ways, so that you can be happier. Know that this is usually done with good intentions, as women are generally nurturing creatures, but is not necessarily always done the right way. I myself understand that you can not change a person, unless said person wants to change, and even then it's always going to be draining on you both.
If this is the case, it is fine to continue as is, but if a woman is on a solo mission, especially when the Aspie guy is unaware, this can burn out the woman, and leads to resentment. This is something women in general need to be aware of too, as to avoid heart ache for both involved. If you feel worried of this happening in your relationship, I would make this concern clear, at the beginning, before even dating; just so they have at least been warned. Even so, be sure to remind them. If you're already I. A relationship, it may be harder, but it may still be beneficial to try it, before there's any bad blood in the relationship.
#2 - relationships are about two people making each other happy. The reason I bring this up is that I've read, or heard, or seen way too many of these cases, where one person gives and gives and gives, while the other simply takes, and never return at he favour. That, or they may simply not provide equal amounts of love, attention, or assistance. This usually ends with the giver feeling resentment, and the receiver arguing that the giver is being over-dramatic, and selfishly ignoring their needs.
What's just as common is that once they do break up, the one used to receiving won't actually realise what they had, until they've lost it, then beg the other to return. If the refuse, they become bitter, but if they do, they may not always change their ways, and things go back to normal. If this sounds familiar, decide which one you are, and try to resolve it appropriately. If you need to give more, try to put more effort in to it, or find someone who doesn't need as much attention (keep in mind you'll get less attention in return). If you're the one always giving, you'll have to make clear that you deserve better, and need to make sure both you and your partner believe this.
#3 - NT women are emotionally complex, and therefore have a higher emotional intelligence, and require those emotional needs to be met, generally speaking. This may be the biggest hurdle for an Aspie guy, as the very definition of your personality may very well oppose this. If this is the issue you face, there are a few things you can try, but it will take work. First, you need to follow steps 1 and 2, make sure they are sorted first. Also, be honest, and communicate your thoughts and feelings. If you're concerned about something, explain this.
Women want to love you, but keep in mind they also want to be loved. Show her you love her, remind her all the time, encourage her, and make her feel special. Also, if you feel she is upset or angry, learn to approach her, and ask why. Explain, and apologise for not understanding what you may have done wrong, and listen to what she says. Woman love to feel appreciated, so the fact that you have approached her to resolve the issue, will allow her to feel you care about this relationship.
#4 - not all women are the same. While it's good to learn how women in general think, remember that like Aspies, we're not all the same. Use your best judgment, or ask a friend for advice, forums, therapists, or even talk to your partner. If you feel they can be compatible with you, hold on to her, and treat her right. If you feel you've done all you can, and the fault may be more on her part, try to make her aware of this. She will either accept this, and try to change, or it could go badly; in which case, I would reconsider the relationship. Just be sure to talk to others, before doing anything rash, as it could just be a misunderstanding. In saying that, some people, both men and women, are crazy; learn to spot them!
#5 - don't pressure a woman to sleep with you before she is ready to. Just because she hasn't yet, doesn't mean she doesn't love you. It just means she's waiting til she's ready. If you're concerned of being friend zoned, tell her your concerns, and hopefully she will advise you of her reasons for withholding.
Relationships require work; if this is too hard, then you may not be ready for a relationship just yet. I could add more later if anyone has questions, but I'll leave that for now. I hope I have helped some understand their situation a bit better.
PS. Sorry about the typos; auto correct dictionary is playing up.
Yes a lot of people think that way when they hear autism and apsergers....but really I'd rather be with a person who was willing to find out exactly what it means and how it affects that person-How is it going to affect our relationship? Just me though...
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^^ same with my parents.
Sometimes I think the problem is different styles of communication. It's like two people who speak English, but who were brought up in different parts of the world and who use different syntax and colloquialisms. One person says something and it means a totally different thing to the other person. They knew what they meant, but the other person totally misunderstands.
What aspies need is a partner with patience.
Not really. Most aspie guys can't even get a girlfriend in high school. Out of all the aspies I knew in high school, (i knew a lot) I and some other country guy were the only ones who had their drivers license.
But don't worry. I'm sure it get's a lot better after high school.
But if you really want a girlfriend, you must first have your drivers license and have a job. If you don't, then get one. Driving is not that scary once you get used to it.
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I don't know if I can stand you in real life Boo. Because you're constantly negative and therefor you yourself become a negative person and that is all you project.
I have never seen a post by you that is not negatively charged. They are fun to read but dealing with that as a partner in real life everyday... no.
I get it having a different chemistry in your head or other difficulties is s**t, I really do Boo. The majority here is in the same boat.
But you know... there is a guy out in the world with no arms and no legs happier and with more purpose than 300 aspies/autistics combined.
We have no excuse if our only hinder in life is a certain texture, loud noise or a large gathering of people trying to communicate with you.
We should try and push ourselves, evolve. Master all things needed for a life that fits you if possible.
Can you honestly say you're trying, do you have an open enough mind,.... do you really know true exhaustion of body and mind?
Or is your favorite word NO and do you chose to spend your time angry thinking back on more things that make you angry.
I would love to have a positive Boo around, but that choice is up to you. Or does one stay stubborn, because misery just loves your company and you hers.
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Sometimes I think the problem is different styles of communication. It's like two people who speak English, but who were brought up in different parts of the world and who use different syntax and colloquialisms. One person says something and it means a totally different thing to the other person. They knew what they meant, but the other person totally misunderstands.
What aspies need is a partner with patience.
It's more the fact Dad spends all his time reading and playing age of empires. Harmless, but lonely for her. As far as the face of boo goes.. I wouldn't class him as "aspie like" really.
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I don't know if I can stand you in real life Boo. Because you're constantly negative and therefor you yourself become a negative person and that is all you project.
I have never seen a post by you that is not negatively charged. They are fun to read but dealing with that as a partner in real life everyday... no.
I get it having a different chemistry in your head or other difficulties is sh**, I really do Boo. The majority here is in the same boat.
But you know... there is a guy out in the world with no arms and no legs happier and with more purpose than 300 aspies/autistics combined.
We have no excuse if our only hinder in life is a certain texture, loud noise or a large gathering of people trying to communicate with you.
We should try and push ourselves, evolve. Master all things needed for a life that fits you if possible.
Can you honestly say you're trying, do you have an open enough mind,.... do you really know true exhaustion of body and mind?
Or is your favorite word NO and do you chose to spend your time angry thinking back on more things that make you angry.
I would love to have a positive Boo around, but that choice is up to you. Or does one stay stubborn, because misery just loves your company and you hers.
A positive Boo would create a wormhole that inhales planet Earth, you don't want that!
Also, this is called Wrongplanet - people often discover this site feeling there's something wrong (basically for being aspies or extremely socially inept), there may be non-diagnosed mild aspies out there who always did very fine in social/romance life but they wouldn't know because they never sensed something wrong happening.
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I don't know if I can stand you in real life Boo. Because you're constantly negative and therefor you yourself become a negative person and that is all you project.
I have never seen a post by you that is not negatively charged. They are fun to read but dealing with that as a partner in real life everyday... no.
I get it having a different chemistry in your head or other difficulties is sh**, I really do Boo. The majority here is in the same boat.
But you know... there is a guy out in the world with no arms and no legs happier and with more purpose than 300 aspies/autistics combined.
We have no excuse if our only hinder in life is a certain texture, loud noise or a large gathering of people trying to communicate with you.
We should try and push ourselves, evolve. Master all things needed for a life that fits you if possible.
Can you honestly say you're trying, do you have an open enough mind,.... do you really know true exhaustion of body and mind?
Or is your favorite word NO and do you chose to spend your time angry thinking back on more things that make you angry.
I would love to have a positive Boo around, but that choice is up to you. Or does one stay stubborn, because misery just loves your company and you hers.
A positive Boo would create a wormhole that inhales planet Earth, you don't want that!
Also, this is called Wrongplanet - people often discover this site feeling there's something wrong (basically for being aspies or extremely socially inept), there may be non-diagnosed mild aspies out there who always did very fine in social/romance life but they wouldn't know because they never sensed something wrong happening.
Ja, I kinda want that. If we all go down a dark drain together that would be cool.
That's all good and well Boo, but names don't often need to have a accompanied mood just because something is meant for a specific thing.
Just because you are on a WrongPlanet doesn't mean you shouldn't learn how to grow crops and reap what you sow to the best of your abilities. Make the best of it simply.
I repeat, I understand what people go through, I do. But we are also experts at stopping the track just because some little thing disturbs us.
Yes people have issues with different things but how hard do most really try?
We are delicate but not made out of glass. So you can always mask sensitive things behind jokes and excuses but sometime you just have to face that insight and self-reflection.
I'm not going to tell you want you should do, you a grown man.
But you asked "Who can stand me?", do you even want someone to stand you?, if you do then you need to pack a bag and go on some emotional adventures and get hurt a bit and hit your knee on rocks and crap. Because it's not going to find you not at home and not on the net where your only presentation is the texts you leave and the self doubt within.
Well,... I guess you know what I'm talking about Boo.
Grab a pen and bite down on it, it creates a fake smile that actually sends positive signals to your brain... baby steps.
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Most NT women HATE aspie men because they do not understand them and dont want to, they creep them out and annoy them!
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Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList
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