American vs Foreign Women

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I’m writing this so that I can give real advice to men who are having trouble dating in the USA. Everybody here will tell you that it’s your own fault for not living up to women’s expectations, but the answer is much more likely that it’s society that’s sick, and you should look elsewhere.

70% of divorces in the USA are initiated by women, and most of these are no fault divorces. What usually ends up happening is that the woman divorces her husband out of the blue, and then takes his house, future income, and children from him. Women in the USA view their husbands as utilities. Most of them care more about stealing their husbands’ money than they do even about their own children, which is why they use their children in divorce court as bargaining chips against husbands who sincerely want to be fathers.

More than 50% of marriages in the USA end in divorce, so getting married as a man is essentially like signing up to have a 35% chance of having your home, your future income, and your children taken from you. You have better chances with Russian roulette.


And women in the USA do not respond to honesty or kindness. That’s why they have words like, “nice guy.” They seriously expect men to be nice to them for no reason. And they think you’re a bad person if you expect kindness to be repaid with kindness.

Now I realize this is mostly anecdotal, but I’ll describe my own experiences now in relation to women’s response to kindness.
I never met a woman who responded well to honesty or kindness until I traveled abroad, and there I found that interacting with women was easy. Often I also find it easier to interact with foreign women in the USA as well, which would indicate that they aren’t attracted to my accent, because every other man around also has an accent.

I just had an email exchange with a Peruvian woman who told me that the way to get a girlfriend was to pay attention to her and do nice things for her, and that doing that will cause her to leave boyfriends who don’t do those things for her. So she literally told me to do the exact opposite of what everyone in the USA tells you to do: be a nice guy.

And there are plenty of examples of vicious female behavior right here on wrong planet. I said in a post a while ago that women are attracted to men who don’t give a s**t about them. I also said that women get most of their power by manipulating men for sex, so that they get hysterical when there is a man who doesn’t worship her, but that they will compete viciously with other women if all the men around are kissing their asses. And sure enough, the next time I checked into wrong planet, there were several posts in the love and dating section where women were complaining that there were lots of guys who were nice to them, but the one guy they wanted to f**k didn’t give a s**t about them. And there were several mean posts about women in the women’s section, one which was literally titled, “I hate women.” Nobody gave a s**t because it was women who said the nasty things. I’m sure if I bothered to read the posts today, I’d find this same BS. Maybe if women don't want to be generalized, then they shouldn't make so many posts which fit exactly with generalizations which people make about them.



I’ve only had one relationship with a foreign woman, and I’ve only lived about a year of my life outside the USA, so my personal experience on the superior behavior of foreign women is limited. But I think I can point to several things which indicates that what I’m saying is true.

There is a movement called MGTOW in the USA, which stands for “Men Going Their Own Way,” and it’s a bunch of men who want nothing to do with women. There is a similar thing going on in Japan, where men who don’t want relationships with women call themselves “Grass Eaters” (I have no idea why they associate vegetarianism with abstinence, but whatever). In Japan, the men don’t want anything to do with the women because they are vicious c***s who have their husbands work themselves to death so that they can take all their money (literally). Wives in Japan typically control their husband’s earnings, and give him just enough money so that he can feed and clothe himself. And Japanese men do literally work themselves to death. The MAJORITY of men in Japan identify as grass eaters, as a response to the totally unreasonable behavior of Japanese women. MGTOW is not as far developed in the USA, but it’s gaining a lot of ground. I expect it will get to the point of the grass eater phenomenon in Japan. You can look at google trends to see that the views of MGTOW are growing exponentially. If you graph “feminism” and “MGTOW” together, you see that 5 years ago, the views of MGTOW weren’t visible next to the views of “feminism.” Today they are visible, although much less than feminism. There are probably several million men in the USA who are MGTOWs without realizing it. The long term use of the word “feminism” in published books also reached a maximum about a decade ago. There is a shift in the psyche in the west.


Also, there are a lot of mail order bride services which cater specifically to American men. I looked at several dating sites recently that hook American and West European men up with Russians and East European women. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Russian women on some of the larger sites, possibly up to 10 000 on at any given time (they sometimes let you look around without signing up). And there are multiple sites, so it’s likely that there are upwards of a million Russian women looking for American men. And there are enough men in the USA and Western Europe who are fed up with the women at home to meet their demand.

And the Russian women aren’t interested in getting green cards, as vicious c***s in the USA like to tell you. A lot of the men move abroad to be with their Russian brides. And foreign women (at least in Eastern Europe) are actually better educated than their American peers. In addition, eastern women are physically healthier, take their marriage commitments seriously, and respond to kindness. It is my understanding (sorry if I’m wrong on this) that the shortage of men in Russia is caused by a sort of nihilism which causes them to take their careers less seriously, and which causes them to literally drink themselves to death (so that there is a literal shortage in the actual number of men). Russian women are hooking up with American men because both groups of people can get something better abroad than what they can get at home.


I’ve personally decided never to have anything to do with American women ever again. I don’t even want to look at them or talk to them. I invite you to do the same. I’m going to leave the country as soon as I am financially able to do so, and live some place where hard work and kindness actually pays off (both in the romantic world, and the economic world).
There’s going to be another financial crash soon, which the USA will not easily recover from. On account of the state no longer being able to steal from men so that they can give to women (22% of USA GDP is used explicitly for wealth transfers – 58% of the US budget, which takes up 38% of GDP), women will want to revert to a more traditional arrangement between the genders. I’m going to remember how they are acting now, and I’m going let them alone in their misery and their poverty. And even if there isn’t a financial crash, most of the women in the USA today will get themselves used up by men who don’t give a s**t about them in their youth, and then they will live their later years alone and miserable, and wondering what went wrong. Leave them to it.


And the men shouldn't bother reading anything that women have to say on the matter. It is in their interest to shame you into staying put and worshiping them for having tits and a vagina. Feminism in the west is basically one big shit-test which should be ignored.

Look in the mirror to see a "vicious c-word" ... your anger and warped bitterness is a self fulfilling prophecy of why you can't find a good woman, American or not.

You earn that title.

OP: Generalize much?

Good luck in your quest. Feel free to recruit any other male who happens to share your beliefs, and be sure to take them along with you when you depart these fair shores.

Oh Hai Dorothy, when you find such a place, please let me know where it is, I want to move there too.

Inb4 s**t storm..


OP, you wouldn't happen to listen to the Tom Leykis show, would you?

The original post is a bit on the disturbing side, it does generalise. Women are not a homogenous bunch who are all the same, women very much differ in their outlook and views.

But sex with women and association with women is optional, so if shamelessgit wants to he is free to abstrain from female company.

I would say that the woman in my life (my wife) does enrich my life.

Ah ShamelessGit -

I feel I can speak for all (or at least most) American women, because as you've so rightly figured out, we're all pretty much the same.

We thank you for deciding to have nothing further to do with us.

Carry on.

Today's "Post I Wish I Had Made."

Go anywhere in the world apart from possibly the Antarctic and you will probably find a money grabbing woman. You will also find money grabbing men and people of both sexes who do things to each other that you normally only see in the soap operas. Society itself is changing and it's done this in the last fifty years but our wants, our desires, our expectations take longer to evolve.

As I said in another post elsewhere on the board my Uncle Harry and Aunt Martha were married for sixty years and they died within hours of each other. That sort of thing is now very rare and divorce rates world wide are climbing, my own marriage lasted for ten years so I speak from experience here Divorce is now easier and divorce no longer carries the stigma that it once did, and posts like these are the result.

Finally, I need to say something about Japan. I've been there, five times, and at the start of my first visit our guide sat us down in the lobby of the hotel and gave us this speech:

"Gentlemen, a few words. These people are born different, live different, eat different, s**t different, marry different, work different, fight different, play different, learn different and even die different. It's the closest you'll ever get to living on an alien planet, welcome to Japan"

A Japanese man hands over his wage packet to his wife because, culturally, that's what he is expected to do. In Japan a good wife is expected to handle the management of the house and the keeping of the house accounts, including the supply of a weekly allowance to her husband. It's their way of doing things and I'm not going to question it because my knowledge of Shinto society is somewhat lacking.

Not to be unsympathetic or anything, but.... cry moar.

I can understand why you feel that way Shameless. I had a negative opinion of American women too when I was depressed & really lonely & I posted about wanting a mail-order bride more than a few times here. My 2nd girlfriend considered herself a feminist & she thought I was too because of some of my values. She taught me abit about feminism & I don't agree with the hard-core man-hatting 1s thou I can understand why they feel that way. She wasn't hard-core about it & she broke up with me because she realized she was better not in a relationship due to her desire for independence. So she's far from the feminist who abuse & take advantage of men that your used to Shameless. I have a pretty great girlfriend now that I met here on this forum & our relationship is pretty equal. The only income I had when we got together & still have is Social Security Disability & I lived with my parents & cant drive. She appreciates & loves me for the way I am as I do her. I respect your goal of wanting to move to another country to find a woman but you don't need to rule out all American women. The moral is that NOT all women here in America are the way you describe. There are still some pretty good women here thou finding them is much harder for those of us on the spectrum. My current girlfriend is on the spectrum as you can probably guess but I know I would have major problems with a typical NT woman due to my Aspergers.

I've met a decent number of Russian women. And let me tell you: most of them were as emotionally warm as this year's polar vortex. I found most of them difficult to talk to. The Americanized ones at least give me courtesy smiles that most of us expect, fake as they may be, and can tell you some pretty interesting stories from back home. Recent immigrants are a different story: they exude an unapproachable vibe, and I feel a blast of cold air (psychologically) even being in the same room with them.

While American women are "just OK", I know what to expect from them, what to say and what not to say, and at least on the cruises I've gone on, they acted quite affectionate (low-level flirting, like hugs, touches on the arm, grabbing my hand, etc). As long as I kept one foot out the door in all my past relationships, I had none of the experiences ShamelessGit described. And on a more prosaic note, I find the Eastern European accents a little grating on the ears. But hey, Russia won first place in this year's Olympics, so whatever they're doing, they must be doing something right (other than home turf advantage, that is).

The shortage of men thing is true. Many young men were killed in World War II, causing the gender imbalance to persist 70 years later. Supposedly, it's easier to guys to find dates over there, but I can't imagine how Russian guys are even comfortable dealing with emotional glaciers. I guess they gain in ease of acquisition what they lose out in warmth (from women, not weather).

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Won't the next financial crash put a dent in your plan to become financially able to leave the country? How are you going to work around that, and support yourself abroad?

You don't need much money in some countries. I keep seeing commercials on TV about how like 5cents a day can provide food, water, clothing, shelter, & medicine for a kid in another country. He could be rich there with a few thousand saved in American money