Men and Women - does not compute?

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The_Face_of_Boo
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27 Mar 2014, 4:36 am

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The last global conflict was a long time ago and now the population is skewed the other way with lots of men chasing a smaller 'supply' of women.

That's true, but not much more. It's probably around 5% and eventually it evens out. It evens out because men still do stupid stuff, work at dangerous jobs, visit a doctor less often and are genetically prone to some diseases. Now 5% isn't much, but if all of those men are desperate to find someone, it may be just enough to skew things. The good thing is all you need to do is wait until you're 60 and there will be plenty of single women around you.

And men are still going to wars and dying there. How many more men died more than women in the Iraqi/Afghanistan war, Syrian conflict, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Israel, Palestine...etc? The world is still on fire and in conflict.

But yeah, most men I know are married or have gfs, so probably the surplus of men we find on dating sites are those 5% you're talking about.

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27 Mar 2014, 5:53 am

Ah, and here one strange phenomenon I've noticed on dating sites/apps: The extreme presence of Filipino girls! Is any other man noticing that lately??

Well, not much complaining, Filipinos are often very nice and cheerful even if they are successful career wise (the ones living here are often working as maids yet some are surprisingly well educated/cultured and down to earth), to the extent that they nicely reply even if they are not interested. And no, not all of them are old-fashioned but all have this...remarkable niceness and cheerfulness in common.

Not sure if that's why a lot of guys here like Asians.

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27 Mar 2014, 8:55 am

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I don't agree that men generally have a higher sex drive.

And I don't agree that men are generally less loyal than women, studies tho that infidelity is almost equal despite the difference in the causes/reasons.

The real reasons are what Wind and thewhitrbbit said.

I rarely meet a girl who's single not by her own choice too.

Common reasons men say why they're single (Online, because in real life they less likely to admit why):
- No girl likes me.
- I am not attractive.
- I've asked out many but everyone is rejecting me.
- I am poor or I am broke or I am too fat.
- All women want successful and good-looking men while I am not.

Common reasons women say why they're single:
- I didn't find the right man yet.
- I want someone who's X, X and X...
- I got bored of losers.
- I can't find a good man in my area.
- All men in area are losers and/or ugly.

The reasons given by women shows that there's no lack of admirers/interested men but there's a lack of men who fit their criteria. While the reasons give by men often show they are not even on demand.

Reasons given by men often indicate that they have shortcomings in life, while reasons given by women don't indicate they have shortcomings but they see a lot of shortcomings in their admirers.

It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".

Even more why you should go for older women because they have a more realistic down to earth view on the world whereas young women tend to think more in the clouds.

The same applies for a lot of foreign women, they have a more realistic perspective whereas Western women may have been brainwashed by pop culture.

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27 Mar 2014, 9:36 am

The reason I am single is because I haven't found anyone who makes me feel so crazy that I would be willing to sacrifice disrupting my life for them to an uncertain end.

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27 Mar 2014, 11:20 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Flyer wrote:

Eccles_the_Mighty wrote:

The last global conflict was a long time ago and now the population is skewed the other way with lots of men chasing a smaller 'supply' of women.

I don't know about Egypt or Libya, but a ton of women have been killed in Syria, Gaza, Pakistan, and Yemen. Mostly because American drone operators, the IDF, and the Syrian Army don't particularly care who they're blowing up at any given point.

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27 Mar 2014, 11:29 am

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I think it may be that more women have learned to be happy single or are gay compared to men. Women don't need men for sex like men need women because of the way their parts work; there's numerous sex toys for women but not many for men unless their gay.

And women can have babies without men.

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27 Mar 2014, 12:23 pm

Based on what I have learned with dating three different women lately, I think it boils down to two things: 1)Woman are more social and have support from their BFFs and are more extroverted while men tend to rely on their partner. I thought I was a weirdo/freak until I found out my situation is typical for a Bachelor my age. Even most married Men I know don't do anything with anyone but their wives and 2)Women are quicker to quit online dating due to a large number of poor candidates. They get burned out/scared away quicker than men get frustrated. I've been chatting with a girl for a while and apparently just caught her before she gave up... after one week.

I do wish women in general would be more upfront and honest about their attraction to men. Like a typical Aspie, I tend to take things at face value and it was hard to realize women are seeking men just the same as we are seeking women. I sometimes felt like a salesman rather than a customer in dating. I also might agree with 'men want sex more on average'. My Ex told me she thought it was so unusual how she would have to ask me over and over because her sex drive was far higher than mine and was used to it being the other way around.

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27 Mar 2014, 12:35 pm

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Uh, try shopping for them. Women have a larger selection of sex toys, to be sure, but there's no lack of options for straight men, who have the same physiology as gay men. I don't even understand the rest of your argument, but it also sounds like unexamined ideas based on cultural preconceptions.

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27 Mar 2014, 12:36 pm

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Does anyone understand this? What am I missing?

I can only talk about personal experiences, but from that there simply seem to be far more men seeking on purpose "a girl for an relationship", even when they actually dont have someone that they are desiring for. You could compare that with the thread of the guy that is invited to an wedding, and now plans on purpose to use if for flirting, because of him seeking "a girl for an relationship". While when it comes to woman I know, there are percental far less seeking on purpose "an guy for an relationship", while far more are simply living their life, and if they accidentally meet someone thats cool, THEN they start getting an desire for being in an relationship with that CERTAIN guy.

So if you have more men seeking an relationship with an person, they yet dont even know now, then woman: Its normal that there is an imbalance about dating sites, that are about flirting with unknown people.

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27 Mar 2014, 3:08 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".

I've seen women say that on this forum but I see men saying "because no women wants me" alot more & I've said that one myself.

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Even more why you should go for older women because they have a more realistic down to earth view on the world whereas young women tend to think more in the clouds.

The same applies for a lot of foreign women, they have a more realistic perspective whereas Western women may have been brainwashed by pop culture.

I've noticed that but also noticed that lots of em have kids & I've also noticed that younger women like that also tend to have kids. The older a woman is the more likely it is that she has/had kids so it may seem like age is a huge factor when having kids is just as much if not more of one. There are plenty of exceptions out there of coarse thou.

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27 Mar 2014, 3:56 pm

Schneekugel wrote:

JacobV wrote:

Does anyone understand this? What am I missing?

This makes sense to me.

You also have to remember that on-line dating isn't compulsory. If there were a huge disparity between boys and girls enrolled in schools in countries with compulsory education, then that would be a puzzle. But this is a matter of choice.

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27 Mar 2014, 3:56 pm

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My advice, become a toyboy, there are so many women out there that look great in their thirties and the fact they look great in their 30s show they haven't let themselves go like a girl in her 20s possibly could. Also having intellectual conversations and someone that is experienced in the bedroom is a plus. Women who are older know what they want as well and they aren't followers of pop culture or the herd.

this is why, this sort of attitude make even considering being on the internet or dating awful - you have to put up with crap

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27 Mar 2014, 4:02 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:

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this is why, this sort of attitude make even considering being on the internet or dating awful - you have to put up with crap

OMG for serious. Like, what is my incentive for going out with sniffly whiny boys who cannot even understand where I am coming from to comfort me when I am upset?

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27 Mar 2014, 4:25 pm

leafplant wrote:

GivePeaceAChance wrote:

Archdevilius wrote:

this is why, this sort of attitude make even considering being on the internet or dating awful - you have to put up with crap

OMG for serious. Like, what is my incentive for going out with sniffly whiny boys who cannot even understand where I am coming from to comfort me when I am upset?

I have always dated older women and I'm currently seeing someone just over a decade older than me but she is absolutely stunning, understanding and experienced. If a person is taking care of themselves in their thirties, they are not likely to let themselves go whereas a twenty year old might stop caring about appearing sexually attractive to the opposite sex once they are in a long term relationship and settled.

Age is just a number, it's about how young you feel.

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27 Mar 2014, 4:47 pm

Archdevilius wrote:

leafplant wrote:

GivePeaceAChance wrote:

Archdevilius wrote:

this is why, this sort of attitude make even considering being on the internet or dating awful - you have to put up with crap

OMG for serious. Like, what is my incentive for going out with sniffly whiny boys who cannot even understand where I am coming from to comfort me when I am upset?

your lady friend is obviously fond of repetition

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27 Mar 2014, 5:22 pm

leafplant wrote:

Archdevilius wrote:

leafplant wrote:

GivePeaceAChance wrote:

Archdevilius wrote:

this is why, this sort of attitude make even considering being on the internet or dating awful - you have to put up with crap

OMG for serious. Like, what is my incentive for going out with sniffly whiny boys who cannot even understand where I am coming from to comfort me when I am upset?

your lady friend is obviously fond of repetition

Nope, our relationship has been unpredictable and sexually thrilling, we have explored areas neither of us have either experienced before.

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