My Tinder Regional Experiment - 6 countries, 6 days.

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Then explain to me why the two Italian girls removed me just after knowing I am Arab (they both mistook me for Italian at first) - Italians generally don't look as white as the northern Europeans but their view on me is probably is the same.

And explain to me how comes that high percentage (like 99%, I got 0 to 1 match out of 100 in every European country) of Europeans and European descendants* who happen almost ALL "simply not attracted to Arab-looking" while it is way more diverse among all the other races (20-30% liked me) , is there something particular inborn in your genes that makes any of your peoples incapable to have any attraction to Arabs and non-whites?

*(like in Toronto for example, even the white looking matches turn out to be of non-european descendant mostly light-skin Arabs, Farsi and central Asians)

Could very well be some prejudice/racism.

But it could also be a little more innocent prejudice. ie with the Italian girls, they may have been aesthetically attracted to you but lost all interest when they realized you didn't share cultural things in common with them - ie language & traditions etc. They likely want to be with an Italian guy due to familiarity and comfort with their own culture. They know what to expect, how their own kind behave etc - and may very legitimately be attracted to those qualities in Italian guys.

Maybe there is something inborn in white caucasians that makes them not attracted to arab looking people. I don't know. Maybe it's from thousands of years of "white supremacy" or "white privilege" as white people have traditionally been the ruling class of the world. This is still true today, with America being a prime example. White people undeniably have an easier time of e v e r y t h i n g and have opportunities more readily available to them than blacks/hispanics/arabs etc. Maybe it is some sort of inborn/genetic thing that's been crafted into whites over many many generations to make them most attracted to their own kind in order to preserve their racial dominance over "slave" classes? I can't say for sure, all I can do is guess just as well as you as to why it is what it is.. but, it is what it is, isn't it? It seems that whites are more attracted to their own race/ethnicity more so than others are. Maybe it's because other races have tended to immigrate more than whites & are more used to mixing into whatever culture they find themselves becoming a part of? Maybe that's for economic reasons - ie immigrants likely move to a more prosperous area and then are more apt to be willing to mix with more prosperous people around them, whether they're white or non-white. I don't know the answer, but your observations are undeniably true.

People subconsciously associate the appearances of positive people from their past, with possible people they will like in the future.
When i was in school, there was voluntarily segregation that i was autisticly unaware off. A section of the school was wear the 'visable minorities, newly landed people, and white east-europeans' hung out. I was unaware of this, as i was on the soccer team, which was one of the few places in the school that was ethnically diverse.

I remember a funny little conversation:

Friend: "No! Leletch! Why you goin' in there? That's the immigrant bathroom."

Me: "Ugh, duh, it's beside the cafeteria, and it smells like cookies in the morning." I enter the bathroom. Some scetchy lookin' dudes look like they're dealing weed, if you think whispering and paranoid looking around might indicate this.

Dudes: "Hey LeLetch, you coming to the game today?" (I was left d. wing)

Me: "Yeah." Hey 'X' (a viable minority forward) *uses facilities and exits washroom*

Friend: "I can't believe you went in there."

Me: "Yeah, well, um, yeah, that was weird. I'm on the soccer team, so i don't think it matters. Your washroom smells like piss, sucker."

The moral here is that in a cultural sense, there little opportunity for inter-race mingling in the FORMATIVE years of someone's upbringing.

Cliques are common in schooling years. A few people from the same country get together, they make a few friends with similar language barriers, and suddenly everyone in a group 9 out of 10 people are of a viable minority, and it LOOKS like a foreign-only club.

The workplace is obviously a little different, but i'm talking about formative years.

I don't think this effect can really go away. Having one or two black friends and having positive experiences is not the same as having dozens of non-minority friends, and the positive accumulated experiences therein.

I don't think it's that people dislike a certain race. It's that they just have a favorite. I guess that's racist.

As for europeans, there's a culture of distrust against muslims in the region, partly due to the rising population, which has inadvertently enabled those communities to form isolated pockets. This pocketing would prevent their largely white neighbors from associating them with anything, including positiveness. It gets worse, because in europe, anti-arabic sentiments are at a high point, so few people will willingly SEEK out a relationship with someone of that visible ethnicity, because it would cause social problem for them. They might still be attracted you. Any small problem however, and you get left or right swiped.

Consider that people seem to only pick 1 out of a 100. They're looking for their favorite.

It's possible a large group of people think you're an 8/10
You'd never know.

In places like Morocco I feel like I am 10/10 lol - virtually only the inactive don't swipe me right, while I in Europe I may be rated 0 (for reasons you mentioned).

When I was "seeking in Morocco" I literally started to become picker - filtering out anyone who has personality traits that I don't like and so on, that's why it's very important to have a high number of suitors , it gives you the power of choice, and you can afford way more to reject left and right, also when your suitors realize you're demanded they even put more effort to approach you, it was always been the case - and being seen highly attractive in certain location may give you all this leverage of power in dating.

Locally, I've been matched with few Europeans (and so was the case on Okcupid too) but all of those were UN/NGO/Journalist, and so they basically way more open to our cultures - not much representative of their fellas in their home countries.

People can see your "rating" on Tinder?

Interesting. I can see how your rating would increase/decrease your attractiveness to others.. if everyone likes you, then even more people will want a piece of the action. If no one likes your pic, and everyone can see that, I can see how it would deter people from messaging you.

I've never used Tinder. I dunno if gay guys even use it considering there are gay specific dating/hookup apps to use.

No no, there's no of that in Tinder, I think not, I was talking real life wise generally, when you are really dating, and if you are dating multiple people in the same time and being honest about it with everyone involved, that makes them realize you're on demand, that gives you power.

Me and Lelouch were talking about theoretical rating, not about some function on tinder.

Aaaah, I thought you meant that others could see how many people liked/disliked your profile picture or something like that as an app feature.

But what you describe makes sense, too. People always want what they can't have.. if it's unavailable because others want it, then they want it, too. If it's readily available because no one wants it, then they don't want it either.

Aside from things that are cultural bias, like "looking Muslim", maybe there is also some biological factor in that people want their children to look like them? Of course a date does not nessecarily lead to children but it is probably something people think of.
Another strange thing, one of the ads I get on WP now is "Single mom looking for a date". Could that be because of this thread?

What's nice about Toronto, Morocco and Bali is there willingness to meet you; they're serious as they were asking me what to do next weekend (thinking that I am living there lol).

If I was living in any of these location I would be like "Hmmm...who am I gonna date tonight?" - fascinating . Even if I am matching only with non-white in Toronto, it's still crowded.

Try Vancouver - I'm curious to see how people react to you here.

I tried a university area in Toronto, matches were 12 in an hour:

- 2 Arabs
- 1 Jew
- 2 Asians
- 1 Latina, darkish.
- 1 Serb, White learning Arabic and interested in that culture.
- 1 Greek (her name is obviously Greek)
- 2 look southern Asians (Indian or Pakistani...).
- 1 gay guy lol
- 1 no pic

Vancouver, here I come!

Vancouver was much less than Toronto, got only 8 matches - most are arabs and asians.
And it seems they're less keen for tinder there.

Interesting.

Vancouver is a very diverse & multicultural city. One of the top dating concerns/complaints about Vancouver women that's made the news over the last few years is that so many women want their potential partner to earn $ix Figure$+ because this is a VERY expensive city. Based on that, I'd imagine that if you look like you have money in this city you'd get better results. Most people don't make big $ though, so that could be a smaller issue.

I have no idea how popular Tinder is or isn't here. I would imagine that POF is among the most popular sites/apps for straight people here.. mainly because POF was founded here and their office is here. Maybe that's why fewer people use Tinder in Vancouver? That and we have the highest gay population in the country.. maybe everyone is on grindr.

That's because all the action here happens on Grinder. Tinder is full of gay men who haven't figured out they downloaded the wrong app yet.

Pretending to be stripper for ladies is revealing interesting things regarding Canada btw, most are getting interested to know how I ended up in that, and interestingly some start asking me for naughty pics - only few are realizing I am trolling.


That's a good idea for another experiment : the stripper guy