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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
If you have to second guess, then it means she doesn't like you.
A girl who really likes you would display very obvious signs (yes, even to aspies) that won't leave you in doubt in any way.
A girl who really likes you would display very obvious signs (yes, even to aspies) that won't leave you in doubt in any way.
She displayed obvious signs.
Then after she found out I liked her began trying to avoid me.
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Sheerboredom wrote:
Yeah, I was showing her something on my phone and she found texts messages between a friend and myself about her.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
That's bizarre, because a long time ago I was in a very similar circumstance and responded to her that she shouldn't just laugh at my feelings, I'm a man who doesn't need to be patronized with the word "sweet". After developing a habit of asserting myself in the same confident manner, a half year later we suddenly weren't in the "friend zone". Hahahaha, now we've been in the "divorced zone" for years. Strangely enough, we still have mostly the same group of friends and have a few beers together on the weekends.
But I digress. Your text story, and I mean no offense, has me under the impression that she is patronizing you. Part of not being in the friend zone is seeming like a man, not a boy (I know this is a lot to expect), and making it clear that you have too much self respect to be patronized. You have to be emotionally and intellectually ready to comport and assert yourself like a man.
This is hard when you have ASD and develop emotionally at a different rate. Your hormones and the people around you might be pressuring you towards something you can't even handle yet. Being self aware enough to understand where you are at emotionally shouldn't make you feel inferior. You are just as deserving of the same dignity and respect as others while you become more of a man. There are unique things you can offer and you have your whole life to offer them, so for the time being all you need to focus on is maturing at your own pace.
So where are you at emotionally? Do you feel more NT? I can see from your quiz score that you display less ASD traits.
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Lukecash12 wrote:
Sheerboredom wrote:
Yeah, I was showing her something on my phone and she found texts messages between a friend and myself about her.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
That's bizarre, because a long time ago I was in a very similar circumstance and responded to her that she shouldn't just laugh at my feelings, I'm a man who doesn't need to be patronized with the word "sweet". After developing a habit of asserting myself in the same confident manner, a half year later we suddenly weren't in the "friend zone". Hahahaha, now we've been in the "divorced zone" for years. Strangely enough, we still have mostly the same group of friends and have a few beers together on the weekends.
But I digress. Your text story, and I mean no offense, has me under the impression that she is patronizing you. Part of not being in the friend zone is seeming like a man, not a boy (I know this is a lot to expect), and making it clear that you have too much self respect to be patronized. You have to be emotionally and intellectually ready to comport and assert yourself like a man.
This is hard when you have ASD and develop emotionally at a different rate. Your hormones and the people around you might be pressuring you towards something you can't even handle yet. Being self aware enough to understand where you are at emotionally shouldn't make you feel inferior. You are just as deserving of the same dignity and respect as others while you become more of a man. There are unique things you can offer and you have your whole life to offer them, so for the time being all you need to focus on is maturing at your own pace.
So where are you at emotionally? Do you feel more NT? I can see from your quiz score that you display less ASD traits.
NT
Emotionally a rock
We're avoiding each other. Went to her open house Sunday and we only acknowledged each other twice (very briefly, like we didn't like each other). She also only looked at me once (5 meters from the bench where my family was present and also looked away quickly).
First time she acknowledged me was after my brother made a comment where she had to and brushed it off by saying, "yeah," then laughed and changed the subject. Second time was when I was leaving (I was 25 meters away) where she said thanks for coming and smiled and waved then rushed back to the guests. Beyond that we both were uncomfortable around each other (long story which involves how she found out, I'm at blame) and it was obvious to both our parents as well as the guests.
I never said a word to her.
She sees (or at least saw) me as a man, too lazy to explain why but she would always ask to take me clubbing when she goes to Detroit . The "sweet" comment was meant to belittle me and I'm not entirely certain why she said, "I'm still going to friend zone you," (exact words) but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet.
If anything needs clarification just let me know.
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Sheerboredom wrote:
Lukecash12 wrote:
Sheerboredom wrote:
Yeah, I was showing her something on my phone and she found texts messages between a friend and myself about her.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
That's bizarre, because a long time ago I was in a very similar circumstance and responded to her that she shouldn't just laugh at my feelings, I'm a man who doesn't need to be patronized with the word "sweet". After developing a habit of asserting myself in the same confident manner, a half year later we suddenly weren't in the "friend zone". Hahahaha, now we've been in the "divorced zone" for years. Strangely enough, we still have mostly the same group of friends and have a few beers together on the weekends.
But I digress. Your text story, and I mean no offense, has me under the impression that she is patronizing you. Part of not being in the friend zone is seeming like a man, not a boy (I know this is a lot to expect), and making it clear that you have too much self respect to be patronized. You have to be emotionally and intellectually ready to comport and assert yourself like a man.
This is hard when you have ASD and develop emotionally at a different rate. Your hormones and the people around you might be pressuring you towards something you can't even handle yet. Being self aware enough to understand where you are at emotionally shouldn't make you feel inferior. You are just as deserving of the same dignity and respect as others while you become more of a man. There are unique things you can offer and you have your whole life to offer them, so for the time being all you need to focus on is maturing at your own pace.
So where are you at emotionally? Do you feel more NT? I can see from your quiz score that you display less ASD traits.
NT
Emotionally a rock
We're avoiding each other. Went to her open house Sunday and we only acknowledged each other twice (very briefly, like we didn't like each other). She also only looked at me once (5 meters from the bench where my family was present and also looked away quickly).
First time she acknowledged me was after my brother made a comment where she had to and brushed it off by saying, "yeah," then laughed and changed the subject. Second time was when I was leaving (I was 25 meters away) where she said thanks for coming and smiled and waved then rushed back to the guests. Beyond that we both were uncomfortable around each other (long story which involves how she found out, I'm at blame) and it was obvious to both our parents as well as the guests.
I never said a word to her.
She sees (or at least saw) me as a man, too lazy to explain why but she would always ask to take me clubbing when she goes to Detroit . The "sweet" comment was meant to belittle me and I'm not entirely certain why she said, "I'm still going to friend zone you," (exact words) but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet.
If anything needs clarification just let me know.
Crystal clear. If I can give any advice at this point, it's that there is a friend zone and also a respect zone. And if you're in the respect zone you have a good deal more chance of not being in the friend zone. You say that she sees/saw you as a man. Her belittling you isn't leaving me very confident of that, because I have a little experience now that I'm a crusty old bastard, and when you're truly seen as a man, women you are interested in rarely patronize or belittle you.
That is because they consciously or at least subconsciously understand two things:
1. The dignity that you project to the world through confidently asserting your manhood, means that you are not a person to be condescended to like that. Because you are a man it means you have character qualities and ethical standards; it means that you are willing to set a mantle on your shoulders and as such you are "a catch".
2. Not only are you confident of your manhood, but that means that you can find someone and others will desire you. If it is a concept in their minds that others will find you desirable, that in itself will make you more desirable. You must act confident of this as well. If and when a woman patronizes you like she did, it is imperative that you immediately establish you are a man, and as such you are above such treatment.
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Sheerboredom wrote:
The "sweet" comment was meant to belittle me and I'm not entirely certain why she said, "I'm still going to friend zone you," (exact words) but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet.
Too me, the comment sounds like game-playing. It probably means she has some kind of interest in you, but don't want to admit it (yet). Could also be a consequence of you showing a lot of interest in her, and that she is not (yet) sure how to deal with that.
As for respect and "be a man", those concepts are totally alien to me. I couldn't care less about any of that.
Lukecash12 wrote:
Sheerboredom wrote:
Lukecash12 wrote:
Sheerboredom wrote:
Yeah, I was showing her something on my phone and she found texts messages between a friend and myself about her.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
She laughed about it, said that's sweet and you're still friend zoned.
Proceeded to spend the next 8 hours walking around the county, spent the next day in the middle of nowhere, and I'm enlisting Monday.
That's bizarre, because a long time ago I was in a very similar circumstance and responded to her that she shouldn't just laugh at my feelings, I'm a man who doesn't need to be patronized with the word "sweet". After developing a habit of asserting myself in the same confident manner, a half year later we suddenly weren't in the "friend zone". Hahahaha, now we've been in the "divorced zone" for years. Strangely enough, we still have mostly the same group of friends and have a few beers together on the weekends.
But I digress. Your text story, and I mean no offense, has me under the impression that she is patronizing you. Part of not being in the friend zone is seeming like a man, not a boy (I know this is a lot to expect), and making it clear that you have too much self respect to be patronized. You have to be emotionally and intellectually ready to comport and assert yourself like a man.
This is hard when you have ASD and develop emotionally at a different rate. Your hormones and the people around you might be pressuring you towards something you can't even handle yet. Being self aware enough to understand where you are at emotionally shouldn't make you feel inferior. You are just as deserving of the same dignity and respect as others while you become more of a man. There are unique things you can offer and you have your whole life to offer them, so for the time being all you need to focus on is maturing at your own pace.
So where are you at emotionally? Do you feel more NT? I can see from your quiz score that you display less ASD traits.
NT
Emotionally a rock
We're avoiding each other. Went to her open house Sunday and we only acknowledged each other twice (very briefly, like we didn't like each other). She also only looked at me once (5 meters from the bench where my family was present and also looked away quickly).
First time she acknowledged me was after my brother made a comment where she had to and brushed it off by saying, "yeah," then laughed and changed the subject. Second time was when I was leaving (I was 25 meters away) where she said thanks for coming and smiled and waved then rushed back to the guests. Beyond that we both were uncomfortable around each other (long story which involves how she found out, I'm at blame) and it was obvious to both our parents as well as the guests.
I never said a word to her.
She sees (or at least saw) me as a man, too lazy to explain why but she would always ask to take me clubbing when she goes to Detroit . The "sweet" comment was meant to belittle me and I'm not entirely certain why she said, "I'm still going to friend zone you," (exact words) but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet.
If anything needs clarification just let me know.
Crystal clear. If I can give any advice at this point, it's that there is a friend zone and also a respect zone. And if you're in the respect zone you have a good deal more chance of not being in the friend zone. You say that she sees/saw you as a man. Her belittling you isn't leaving me very confident of that, because I have a little experience now that I'm a crusty old bastard, and when you're truly seen as a man, women you are interested in rarely patronize or belittle you.
That is because they consciously or at least subconsciously understand two things:
1. The dignity that you project to the world through confidently asserting your manhood, means that you are not a person to be condescended to like that. Because you are a man it means you have character qualities and ethical standards; it means that you are willing to set a mantle on your shoulders and as such you are "a catch".
2. Not only are you confident of your manhood, but that means that you can find someone and others will desire you. If it is a concept in their minds that others will find you desirable, that in itself will make you more desirable. You must act confident of this as well. If and when a woman patronizes you like she did, it is imperative that you immediately establish you are a man, and as such you are above such treatment.
Circumstance is everything. Brother was in room.
Brother = hard ass with severe anxiety disorder left unchecked extremely jealous as well.
I would have had to do the same thing if the roles were reversed in order to avoid a fight (I'd "win" buts that's not relevant). Before this we had to avoid each other and watch our words around him. So, the "Sweet" comment was meant to be brushed off, if she had said it in a different scenario I'd agree with you.
We for the most part have a great deal of respect between us, things just got complicated after she found out I like her hence why we're avoiding each other.
To elaborate on the last sentence from my last post:
She tacked that on after a brief (unnoticeable if you're not paying attention) pause, also said it differently more serious but still light hearted with a look of disdain/regret afterwards quickly replaced by laughter and an act of embarrassment not sure what I should make of it yet still need to know more.
I know she use to like me (not platonically) but I'm a carbon copy of her ex (only difference is morals and approach to certain things) and I didn't feel the same way at the time.
So, this situation is all kinds of screwed and practically destined to fail if anything had/does come of it.
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rdos wrote:
Sheerboredom wrote:
The "sweet" comment was meant to belittle me and I'm not entirely certain why she said, "I'm still going to friend zone you," (exact words) but I'm not going to elaborate on that just yet.
Too me, the comment sounds like game-playing. It probably means she has some kind of interest in you, but don't want to admit it (yet). Could also be a consequence of you showing a lot of interest in her, and that she is not (yet) sure how to deal with that.
As for respect and "be a man", those concepts are totally alien to me. I couldn't care less about any of that.
She was in the dark about me liking her (surprising because everyone else knew) but I'm leaning towards "game-playing" based on other parts of the situation I haven't indicated like she's going to college in less than 70 days and she "doesn't" want a relationship because of it.
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Sheerboredom wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it is a tough deal, I know, this unrequited love or unrequited limerance at least. all one can do is cut one's losses and concentrate one's energies on an end that is more promising. no mere human is worth being placed upon a pedestal as some kind of paragon of attractiveness and loveliness. there's always another that is better somewhere, and possibly more interested/compatible with one, than the present fixation. do you really find her type [attracted to macho men] attractive above all else?
She's kinda hard to explain, she likes what society says is hot but she ain't much of a looker herself. She's young and shallow like most girls my age, but tries to act otherwise. Try's to play herself out to be someone who puts others first but only does it when people are looking, and if they're not she makes damn sure to brag on social media.
She ain't perfect, no one is, and for the most part I don't know why I like her (overall pretty crappy human being, but acts likes she cares about others). I've known her for two years and at times it seems like she flirts with me (I'm close to the aforementioned stereotype, minus the truck and height) and didn't really start to like her until someone made a comment back about in January about how she at the time constantly tried to take me out partying/clubbing.
Hope that helps.
Howdy. Everything you said about her is negative. Sounds like you are infatuated because she's the only thing available and she's flirting with you. She sounds like trouble and a bunch of drama. Move on and focus on yourself and your career since you hate your job. A lot of EMT's become ER nurses or respiratory therapists. You're still young enough to be picky about who you date.
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kraftiekortie wrote:
If I wasn't married, I'd be picky about who I date--despite the fact that I'm 54.
Wasn't there a TV show a couple of years ago about a nurse named Angela?
Wasn't there a TV show a couple of years ago about a nurse named Angela?
I remember a Nurse Jackie. She was full of drama. I loved the show, but I think it made nurses look bad - especially when she was on drugs.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Spiderpig wrote:
The best way not to fall is to be already lying on the ground.
That's also the best way to constantly lie on the ground. Which is perfectly fine if I consider myself a worm, but I consider myself a man. That is why I stand, and when I fall I stand right back up. Because of my inherent dignity others will see me in my standing posture, but their mere recognition of my posture doesn't validate it, rather the fact alone that I am standing expresses my dignity to myself. Regardless of the reception of that posture I will maintain it because I inherently deserve it.
And so do you.
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
If you have to second guess, then it means she doesn't like you.
A girl who really likes you would display very obvious signs (yes, even to aspies) that won't leave you in doubt in any way.
A girl who really likes you would display very obvious signs (yes, even to aspies) that won't leave you in doubt in any way.
I don't think that is true.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.